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Hey all!! A long time murderino, new to trying to websleuth!!

Question on how sites like NamUs work...say there is a missing person and one of their identifiers is that she has a specific tattoo, we'll say a butterfly. Is there some kind of background algorithm that compares unidentified persons who also have a butterfly tattoo?
Or is it just that the info is entered into the system and that's that?

Also, once the person is identified or found, are they consistently updated off of the site? Just trying to avoid any tail chasing on something that has already been figured out, yano?

Thank you muchly in advance!!

-Anna
 
Hello and welcome!

When a new person is entered into Namus, the system automatically performs cross-matching comparisons between the missing and unidentified. The system then continues to routinely make these comparisons searching for matches.

The database has a page of excluded cases (missing persons who have been checked and ruled out as the unidentified person), you must be logged in to view this page. The database will update when there has been a match but it sometimes takes a while.

Unfortunately many unidentified remains have not been entered into the system. The NIJ states that only about 15% of unidentified remains in the USA have been entered into the database.
 
Oh okay, gotcha. Thank you so much!!!

What a horribly sad statistic though... I mean I am sure it’s a ton of work, but still, sad :(
 
The database has a page of excluded cases (missing persons who have been checked and ruled out as the unidentified person), you must be logged in to view this page. The database will update when there has been a match but it sometimes takes a while.
RSBM

The Exclusions (Comparisons) that are viewable to registered users are only those that have been ruled out by biometric data, i.e. dentals, fingerprints and/or DNA. There may be, however, additional "rule outs" not viewable to us. There used to be the word "Exclusions" up by the Tools on the NamUs page (It's no longer there). Sometimes the number there was higher than the number of exclusions on the viewable lists. The additional, non-viewable exclusions are those rule-outs based on non-biometric data - height, weight, eye color, hair color, tats, etc. They may be conclusive rule-outs but not backed up by scientific fact. And because NamUs won't accept exclusion on anything but dental, DNA or prints, those rule-outs are not viewable to registered users. They are, however, viewable to NamUs personnel, LE, MedEx/Coroners - those with higher access than us.
 
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Murderino!!!! Yessssss me too! Also new to this site. Have been exploring for network and namus in my down time. Would love to find people to tackle some cases together!
 
Some changes coming to NamUs including ...

Fourth, we recognize that advanced DNA technologies paired with forensic genetic genealogy (FGG) services have become a powerful tool for pushing investigations forward to case resolution. There are numerous NamUs cases that could benefit from such services, and RTI is currently working with various vendors who provide FGG services to develop a robust plan to integrate forensic genetic genealogy into future NamUs workflows and services.

Read more here:
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Has it something to do with updates on Texas gov website

Resources For Law Enforcement | Office of the Attorney General


Resources For Law Enforcement
The Cold Case and Missing Persons Unit strives to stay updated on the latest trends in forensic science technology, genealogy research, grant and training opportunities, and other investigative tools to help law enforcement agencies with their cold case investigations.



Tools
 
I've noticed that NamUs has been not letting certain people access cases for about a week now. For some it seems fine, but for many, including myself, every part of the site works fine except the actual cases pages.

They are making changes... who is overseeing NamUs, the URL, the look of the website - all changing. So there will be some challenges during the transition.

From the link I posted above (post #7):

Dear NamUs Stakeholders,

As you are aware, the Department of Justice’s National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) is changing administrators for the first time since 2011. In April of 2021, the National Institute of Justice (NIJ) awarded a contract to RTI International (RTI) to manage NamUs. I would like to express my appreciation and gratitude to the entire NamUs stakeholder community for your patience and input as this transition progresses.

Over the past three months, NIJ has been working diligently with RTI and the University of North Texas, the previous NamUs administrator, to transition the overarching management of NamUs to RTI. In the coming months, the community will see several changes. I would like to share with you some of these changes.

  • First, the Office of Justice Programs, of which NIJ is part, will assume daily oversight of all web management applications in NamUs 2.0 database. This will allow for the sustainable continuity of database services to the community regardless of which organization holds the contract.
  • Second, those of you who work directly with the current NamUs Regional Program Specialists will soon see those same individuals as RTI employees. Their service as community support liaisons will continue. We appreciate the wealth of experience that these individuals have contributed to NamUs and we plan to retain them in that capacity.
  • Third, to strengthen forensic services, we plan to enlist several forensic providers as formal NamUs partners. RTI is currently negotiating subcontracts and will announce them once they have established formal commitments. RTI is also in discussions with various public and private laboratories, especially those with CODIS units, as well as with various forensic consultants, to enlist their participation as potential NamUs partners. We expect that, by enlisting these partners, we will enhance program efficiencies and improve sample turnaround times. Furthermore, we will continue to pursue partnerships, both formal and informal, with industry, academia, other non-profit organizations, and state and federal agencies.
  • Fourth, we recognize that advanced DNA technologies paired with forensic genetic genealogy (FGG) services have become a powerful tool for pushing investigations forward to case resolution. There are numerous NamUs cases that could benefit from such services, and RTI is currently working with various vendors who provide FGG services to develop a robust plan to integrate forensic genetic genealogy into future NamUs workflows and services[1].
As a final thought, I understand that behind every single case in the NamUs database are family members and loved ones of those who have gone missing or remain unidentified. We do not take our responsibility to them lightly, and we are ready to take on all challenges to bring them the answers they need and deserve. As we look forward to the future, NIJ will build upon the solid foundation already established and create an even stronger NamUs. We look forward to working with you to make that goal a reality.

Sincerely,

Lucas Zarwell

National Institute of Justice

Director, Office of Investigative and Forensic Sciences
 
Full disclosure: I worked briefly at RTI a couple of decades ago in chemistry research. They had some notable successes in that arena, such as the discovery of the anticancer drug Taxol. But their real bread and butter now is in managing large government contracts such as this.
 
Request: Is there someone here who is currently able to access the Rule-out lists who wouldn't mind being tagged on a thread for such? Thanks.:cool:
 
@doggybag2355 it seems like it's happening to me now. Were you getting something like "A communication error occurred: "Connection refused" ---VA99"?
 
Request: Is there someone here who is currently able to access the Rule-out lists who wouldn't mind being tagged on a thread for such? Thanks.:cool:
I can still see rule out lists for now. Go ahead and tag me. I’m at work but will check back this evening:)
 
I had a tiny hope that the update would bring a change to the account registration process - as a non-American user, I would love to have an account to view rule-outs and other details visible only to registered users. Unfortunately that hasn't changed: you need a US address to register for an account.

I appreciate everyone here who shares rule-out lists!
 

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