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Anyone know who sb is?
Lol! This is like "who's on first?"
sb=somebody
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Anyone know who sb is?
They were trying to cut costs and several people walked off set as a result of safety issues. It was a mess all around.
I notice from IMBD, Dave Halls has worked in films as an AD for 25 years, he's definiteley not a novice in the industry like the Armorer. I can't count all the films he's worked on that are listed there, probably a hundred.
Also he has many film credits from 2021 and 2020, whereas the Freedom's Path film he was fired from was filming in 2019. So he seems to have worked on 6 or more productions since that incident.
I think it would be useful to know exactly what the incident and error was, before linking it to this one.
I don’t either. They’re not supposed to be.
That being said, again, the actor cannot be responsible for prop safety unless they’re an expert assigned to that. Otherwise they’d be responsible to be a safety expert for every prop they use.
For example, let’s say they’re harnessed into a rig that carries them over the audience at some sort of show. The rig fails. They drop. They’re miraculously un-injured but they fall on an audience member’s head, and that person dies.
Is the actor responsible for making sure the harness was safe prior to using it? No.
The only way they’d be responsible is if they grossly deviated from how they were supposed to use it. Example? Baldwin decides to put his own “blanks” into the gun and practice with that. He injures someone. THEN he would be responsible.
Bottom line- not everyone is a gun owner. Not everyone is required to be an expert as to gun safety. Even if they are handed one to use. Moreover, the standard rules for gun safety do not apply on sets all the time- like never pointing a weapon at someone.
Anyone know who sb is?
Also Mommy and Daddy have a history of bailing her out ...
So often, these days, 'safety' refers to Covid protocols.They were trying to cut costs and several people walked off set as a result of safety issues. It was a mess all around.
On the other thread I've been following closely it's steven bertolino, but I don't think that applies here. Though it wouldn't surprise me if he makes a bizarre comment about this case.
I would be shocked if AB did any hiring personally…AB may be called into question for not being more cautious in his hiring of 2 individuals who have reason to pause. Her-a novice and the AD being fired for safety issues on a previous film. I think I would have instinctively checked myself. Was he trying to cut cost by hiring them?
If there was a surgeon in the OR that was previously fired for safety issues I would think those in the new OR would be cautiously aware.
I would be shocked if AB did any hiring personally…
Thank you, Gitana, for your no-nonsense explanations and your wisdom.It is not about fairness. It’s about legalities and practicalities. If you expect actors to know and use gun safety rules with a prop gun then you must expect them to know and use safety rules when it comes to ANY dangerous prop they work with.
That’s not possible. It would mire production in legalities that would make filming impossible. That’s why experts are hired to deal with safety.
The world isn’t expected to know gun safety rules and be deemed legally negligent if they don’t. As an example, if someone leaves a loaded gun at home on a table and then goes out to dinner, and their teenage child has a couple friends come over, one of whom picks up the gun, is mistakenly told it is not loaded and accidentally discharges it, killing the other friend, the parents of the shooter will not be liable. Neither will the shooter himself. The child of the gun owner won’t even be liable.
The gun owner who negligently left a loaded gun on the table, is the only one who will be held liable.
The laws of negligence don’t require that everyone, child or adult, know gun safety rules. Only those who actually own the guns are required to have a level of expertise regarding their safety.
Actually, it IS possible to check. at 3:59 in the linked video it shows how to.
Big thanks to whomever posted this video in the first thread. I learned a lot from it. My only Colt revolver is a somewhat newer double action with a non-fixed cylinder.
'Rust' Assistant Director Admits Gun Safety Lapses Before Fatal Shooting
According to a new search warrant, obtained by TMZ, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed told authorities the day of the shooting she had checked the ammo -- which she called the "dummies," meaning they were not live rounds. She added there were never live rounds on the set.
She went on to say the gun was locked up in a safe in a prop truck during the lunch break and taken out shortly before the fatal scene. The implication -- she's saying the gun appeared safe to her, because it wasn't messed with it during lunch. She did, however, say there were a few people who had access to the safe.
Union people who left were the camera crew. Not the ones responsible for set safety.Me too, however we do know he encouraged the union people to go on strike and would know that would result in less experienced people being on the set.
I wonder if that will have any bearing on the case.
Would a remote camera setup be considered as being part of set safety?Union people who left were the camera crew. Not the ones responsible for set safety.
Yes,and I thought "cold gun" was supposed to indicate a gun with no rounds at all,live or otherwise?, so if he saw any rounds in the gun at all when she spun the barrel,why did he call "cold gun"?. Maybe I am confusing myself with all the terms though