Anne Heche in critical condition following fiery car crash, 5 August 2022

[GoBuckeyes]

No, at least not in all cases in the U.S. I had serious flood damage to my home last year & had to have the walls partially torn out for some time; and, it took a while for them to be repaired. I was fortunate to be able to stay in the home while waiting for the repairs; i.e., it was still habitable at that point.

The insurance did NOT cover all of my costs associated with my damage/repairs, and I'm not even counting the deductible.

And, my insurance wouldn't have covered any costs associated with a hotel/motel - if I had to stay in one while the house was being repaired.

Are you in a flood plane? If you aren't and insurance wouldn't pay, I'd dump that carrier. It's written with the declarations document how much they will pay if you are displaced out of your home for covered damages. I try to direct mine carefully every year to make sure I'm covered adequately.

 

[Bhodie]

Yes, but I think that was speculation. I couldn't tell from the TMZ picture what kind of bottle it is. There's been no confirmation that alcohol was involved, although she has said publicly that she used in the past. Apparently it wasn't possible to test for alcohol after arriving at the hospital. Maybe once she's stable they will test for drugs.

We don't know the extent of her injuries, but she must at least be facing charges for speeding and reckless driving/endangering others. She almost killed that woman in her house and destroyed her home. Imo

I wouldn’t jump to conclusions just yet, we don’t know if she was under the influence of anything, pending further investigation. She could have had a medical condition/incident that we are not aware of just yet.

 

[LaborDayRN]

Psychosis is a thought disorder. There is nothing about psychosis that allows a person to still talk or flail about after being on fire.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't her previous mental health troubles in the context to substance abuse as opposed to an organic mental illness?

Psychosis and Psychotic Episodes

Get a deeper understanding of psychosis with this guide. Explore the causes, symptoms, and various treatment options for this mental health condition.

www.webmd.com

Symptoms of Psychosis

• A drop in grades or job performance.
• Trouble thinking clearly or concentrating.
• Suspiciousness or unease around others.
• Lack of self-care or hygiene.
• Spending more time alone than usual.
• Stronger emotions than situations call for.
• No emotions at all.

Her previous (and most likely current) mental health issues have more to do with her childhood. I'd guess the drug and alcohol use is to dull the pain. JMO

 

[LaborDayRN]

I'm not sure that information is available to the public. After all of the trauma she endured in her formative years, it would not surprise me at all if she has battled both an organic issue and substance abuse.

Yes. Horrific trauma. For anyone interested it's easy enough to find online. Just google Ann Heche childhood.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

This is a classic case of wealthy celebrities getting treated with a lot more deference than "the average joe" in cases like this. I.e., based on all of the articles/news reports out there about this case, it sounds like AH was:

1) Impaired while driving
2) Driving recklessly
3) Intentionally crashed into these two locations
4) A combination of two (or more) of the above

If she was not a wealthy celebrity/big-shot, it would have been immediately reported what caused these crashes. And, if a non-wealthy person was determined to be either inebriated/drugged and/or crashed the car on purpose - they would be going to prison...after they recovered at the hospital.

So, who is now going to take care of the homeowner/homeowners whose house she destroyed?! The house sounds unlivable at this point. Even if the homeowners have insurance money, I can tell you that this doesn't pay for everything involved in the repair(s) of damage this extensive. It will also take months to fix the home, and that's if the home is even worth fixing. And, in the meantime the homeowners will need to live somewhere else. And, most insurance policies won't pay for hotel/motel costs while the homeowner is having the home repaired. Horrible.

Hotel/housing costs are a key part of H.O. policies, for anyone who is even remotely adequately insured. There are so many options on H.O. policies. It just depends on how much risk this particular homeowner was willing to take on. Yes, it costs more. But, should one choose, you can insure everything in the home at current replacement cost with today's models. That includes rebuilding everything back, replacing possessions and home goods and and collectibles that were declared, as well as a significant pool of money for housing while the home is being rebuilt. The only thing the homeowner will be out, if the policy covers adequately, is her deductible-if that. Heche's should pay. Further, Heche's policy will have a certain amount devoted to property damage caused by her car. Let's hope that she's the one who bought the beefed up policy.

 

[LaborDayRN]

This is a classic case of wealthy celebrities getting treated with a lot more deference than "the average joe" in cases like this. I.e., based on all of the articles/news reports out there about this case, it sounds like AH was:

1) Impaired while driving
2) Driving recklessly
3) Intentionally crashed into these two locations
4) A combination of two (or more) of the above

If she was not a wealthy celebrity/big-shot, it would have been immediately reported what caused these crashes. And, if a non-wealthy person was determined to be either inebriated/drugged and/or crashed the car on purpose - they would be going to prison...after they recovered at the hospital.

So, who is now going to take care of the homeowner/homeowners whose house she destroyed?! The house sounds unlivable at this point. Even if the homeowners have insurance money, I can tell you that this doesn't pay for everything involved in the repair(s) of damage this extensive. It will also take months to fix the home, and that's if the home is even worth fixing. And, in the meantime the homeowners will need to live somewhere else. And, most insurance policies won't pay for hotel/motel costs while the homeowner is having the home repaired. Horrible.

I believe Anne Heche will be charged with a crime and she (or her insurance company) will have to pay for a new home for the woman who thankfully survived the accident. And I believe there will also be a law suit filed by the homeowner (and rightfully so IMO).

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Psychosis and Psychotic Episodes

Get a deeper understanding of psychosis with this guide. Explore the causes, symptoms, and various treatment options for this mental health condition.

www.webmd.com

Symptoms of Psychosis

• A drop in grades or job performance.
• Trouble thinking clearly or concentrating.
• Suspiciousness or unease around others.
• Lack of self-care or hygiene.
• Spending more time alone than usual.
• Stronger emotions than situations call for.
• No emotions at all.

Her previous (and most likely current) mental health issues have more to do with her childhood. I'd guess the drug and alcohol use is to dull the pain. JMO

Minus the drugs and alcohol, what you described is very much inline with her autobiography. She seems to have had at least one other episode of psychosis. (Read at link.) Can someone weigh in here? Maybe you @LaborDayRN ? TIA

I've been surprised. Some people seem ready to string her up, and we still don't know if a medical event caused the accident. We have no idea what caused it. JMOO

Some have commented that driving recklessly equates to pointing a loaded gun, or something along those lines. But when it's pointed out that we've all driven recklessly at one point or another, then they seem to want to elucidate a hierarchy of nuanced infractions. But the end result is the same, reckless driving.

IMOO, it's time to be grateful no one else was hurt, and wish this woman well as she walks the very long road stretching out ahead of her.

And, no, I'd never advocate for driving distracted in any manner. I think I'll just reserve judgment and be glad that no one was lost that day. JMOO, 2 cents, and all that jazz.

Report: Anne Heche stable after fiery car crash

Anne Heche was in the hospital Saturday following an accident in which her car smashed into a house and flames erupted, a representative for the actor told People magazine.

fox8.com

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I believe Anne Heche will be charged with a crime and she (or her insurance company) will have to pay for a new home for the woman who thankfully survived the accident. And I believe there will also be a law suit filed by the homeowner (and rightfully so IMO).

That's what Heche's insurance is for. Hopefully she has a fantastic policy.
Although, imo, if the woman is made whole...

Does anyone ever not go to litigation anymore? No wonder our court system never comes close to catching up. MOO The woman's home will be rebuilt. She and her dogs made it out alive and uninjured. Does anyone ever just thank their lucky stars and let that be enough? MOO

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Psychosis is a thought disorder. There is nothing about psychosis that allows a person to still talk or flail about after being on fire.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't her previous mental health troubles in the context to substance abuse as opposed to an organic mental illness?

That appears not to be the case. She has battled an organic mental health issue or issues for nearly her whole life.

Report: Anne Heche stable after fiery car crash

Anne Heche was in the hospital Saturday following an accident in which her car smashed into a house and flames erupted, a representative for the actor told People magazine.

fox8.com

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I am so happy that the pets were saved from the home that burned down.

So sad for the owner who lost her home.

I'm sure that the home will be rebuilt and her things replaced. I can't imagine Heche not being insured well enough to cover that.

I'm just so glad that the woman and her dogs are safe.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Actor Anne Heche 'expected to pull through' following fiery Los Angeles crash, ex says

The crash into a home sparked a “heavy fire,” a Los Angeles Fire Department spokesman said.

www.nbcnews.com

...A Los Angeles Police Department spokesperson said the crash was under investigation and that there was no immediate indication regarding its cause.

It was possible, he said, the patient would be subject to a blood draw as part of the police investigation. In California, police don't need a warrant for a blood draw if a person was arrested on a DUI charge prior to the test.

Such arrests can be made based on officers' observations and circumstantial evidence such as drugs or alcohol in a vehicle...

Yes, a blood draw can be demanded by LE, but medical staff do not and generally will not comply unless and until they get the patient stabilized. I posted further down thread about a similar case. A nurse was charged for not doing the draw. Not guilty on all charges, and she successfully sought and won damages. (She was partially escorted/partially dragged out of the hospital in the middle of tending to the patient. It was a crazy pre-Covid case, apparently when LE had the time to do such things as hang around in an ER for a blood draw. JMOO

LA County, is that where this happened? Regardless, most city LE more than have their hands full right now with violent crime and this awful battle with synthetic opioids and overdoses. I'm certain after a thorough investigation she will or won't be charged, depending on that investigation. Sending positive, healing thoughts for all involved.

 

[they'll get you]

It would be interesting to hear what kind of interaction the guy had when trying to get her out of the car.
IMO the way he was telling her to get out, it sounded like there was a concern she shouldn’t be behind the wheel.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

That, and that she should now get the help she needs, physical health, mental health, substance abuse help, or some combination thereof. MOO

The thing I wonder, is would you and others be so understanding and hopeful she "gets help" if it was your house that was destroyed, your and your pets' lives that were put in danger? I'm sorry but it just irks me that we as a society don't hold celebs to the same standards that we hold non-celebs too. Lots of us endured horrific abusive childhoods, struggles with mental health but if we did what AH did, as a non-celeb "nobody" people would be understandably outraged.

 

[MsBetsy]

That appears not to be the case. She has battled an organic mental health issue or issues for nearly her whole life.

Report: Anne Heche stable after fiery car crash

Anne Heche was in the hospital Saturday following an accident in which her car smashed into a house and flames erupted, a representative for the actor told People magazine.

fox8.com

Yes, I remember her discussing her childhood and how she developed another personality. I got the impression she started using substances to self medicate. Jmo

 

[scriabina]

But I think it's wrong to normalize drunk driving and suggest there's no difference between someone drinking and driving and someone changing a radio channel (assuming they're keeping an eye on the road).

100% agree; I just said the same thing!

 

[Lilibet]

That's what Heche's insurance is for. Hopefully she has a fantastic policy.
Although, imo, if the woman is made whole...

Does anyone ever not go to litigation anymore? No wonder our court system never comes close to catching up. MOO The woman's home will be rebuilt. She and her dogs made it out alive and uninjured. Does anyone ever just thank their lucky stars and let that be enough? MOO

We don’t know whether Heche’s insurance will cover the damage done if she is shown to have been driving under the influence. Sometimes when insurance refuses to pay, the victim has to file a lawsuit in order to be reimbursed for their loss. I hope insurance will come through for the homeowner and the renter without making it difficult.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random.

Dial down some of the attitude in this thread. No personalizing or bickering. If you can't post respectfully, don't post.

Thank you.

 

[scriabina]

IMOO, it's time to be grateful no one else was hurt, and wish this woman well as she walks the very long road stretching out ahead of her.

Actually, it's time for law enforcement and experts to do their jobs and investigate what precipitated these horrible events, which is what they are doing.

According to this article: "Police said an investigation is underway related to "misdemeanor hit and run incidents" that occurred before the Mar Vista crash."

 

[Charlot123]

Wish Anne Heche to successfully make it through, and out of the hospital.

Sincerest wishes to the owner of the house and all her pets.

Best of luck to (and admiration with) amazing neighbors and the fire department.

 

[IceIce9]

That's what Heche's insurance is for. Hopefully she has a fantastic policy.
Although, imo, if the woman is made whole...

Does anyone ever not go to litigation anymore? No wonder our court system never comes close to catching up. MOO The woman's home will be rebuilt. She and her dogs made it out alive and uninjured. Does anyone ever just thank their lucky stars and let that be enough? MOO

The woman’s home will be rebuilt, but she most likely lost photos and priceless sentimental items that can never be replaced.

And I am sure that she was traumatized watching her home burn to the ground.