This is the most up to date rule out list I'm aware of.
Identified! AR - El Dorado, Whitehall Motel, WhtFem 18-21, 81UFAR, Jul'91 - #3 - Kelly from VA
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This is from Namus as of today, and yes Patricia Taylor is on it. Thanks for that info Jake, nice to know that action is still happening!
Missing Person / NamUs # MP31371Patricia Taylor, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactAugust 1, 1981
StateOK
CountyTulsa
Missing Person / NamUs # MP34986Tammy Surdam, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactAugust 1, 1979
StateMO
CountySt. Charles
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6787Darci Warde, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactApril 24, 1990
StateWA
CountyKing
Missing Person / NamUs # MP18209Carey Parker, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactMarch 17, 1991
StateTX
CountyHunt
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6459Leigh Occhi, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactAugust 27, 1992
StateMS
CountyLee
Missing Person / NamUs # MP2825Tracy Byrd, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactMarch 7, 1983
StatePA
CountyBucks
Missing Person / NamUs # MP13086Roxanne Sims, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactDecember 31, 1977
StateOR
CountyMultnomah
Missing Person / NamUs # MP4958Myrisha Campbell, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactSeptember 6, 1958
StateTX
CountyGoliad
Missing Person / NamUs # MP9089Jeannette Drzewiecki, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactSeptember 13, 1982
StateTX
CountyEctor
Missing Person / NamUs # MP10795Cathleen Martin, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactMarch 29, 1987
StatePA
CountyDelaware
Missing Person / NamUs # MP2559Lisa White, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactNovember 1, 1974
StateCT
CountyTolland
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6722Michelle Thomas, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactOctober 5, 1985
StateTX
CountyGalveston
Missing Person / NamUs # MP26896Phyllis Brewer, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactJune 13, 1981
StateOH
CountyMahoning
Missing Person / NamUs # MP2301Misty Copsey, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactSeptember 17, 1992
StateWA
CountyPierce
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6429Julie Moseley, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactDecember 23, 1974
StateTX
CountyTarrant
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6263Cindy King, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactJuly 19, 1977
StateOR
CountyJosephine
Missing Person / NamUs # MP22793Winnie Kersey, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactDecember 3, 1982
StateFL
CountyDuval
Missing Person / NamUs # MP2510Cheryl Ann Iacovone, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactJuly 12, 1977
StatePA
CountyDelaware
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6744Mary Trlica, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactDecember 23, 1974
StateTX
CountyTarrant
Missing Person / NamUs # MP8364Veronica Brewer, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactJuly 1, 1986
StateTX
CountyFort Bend
Missing Person / NamUs # MP2495Joanne Williams, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactDecember 7, 1978
StatePA
CountyLackawanna
Missing Person / NamUs # MP23402Cathy Smith, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactJuly 1, 1981
StateMO
CountyJackson
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6128Cynthia Gooding, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactSeptember 3, 1974
StateFL
CountyMonroe
Missing Person / NamUs # MP6871Jackie Leslie, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactJuly 31, 1974
StateAZ
CountyMaricopa
Missing Person / NamUs # MP4528Elaine Allenbach, Female, White / Caucasian
Date of Last ContactMarch 1, 1986
StateWA
CountyKing
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Bringing this over, Mary Leah Rodermund
She had hazel eyes and went missing at 16 in 1978- 5'4 at time last seen
Unless I missed it I don't see Mary on the ruleout list. Her reported eye color and height are not a match but those could be incorrect. Her nose shape is what caught my attention. EDJD has a distinct nose:
The nose shape is very similar I agreeUnless I missed it I don't see Mary on the ruleout list. Her reported eye color and height are not a match but those could be incorrect. Her nose shape is what caught my attention. EDJD has a distinct nose:
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I also agree. I have had Mary's Charley Page open on my computer for months because everytime I look at her I see features that make me think of EDJD. I think you should submit her.Unless I missed it I don't see Mary on the ruleout list. Her reported eye color and height are not a match but those could be incorrect. Her nose shape is what caught my attention. EDJD has a distinct nose:
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It sounds like you feel really strongly she could be a match. I just saw her picture for the first time yesterday on another thread and thought her nose was similar to EDJD. But I'm not sure... Please feel free to submit Mary if you want (or if anyone else wants to). I prefer to just discuss cases here, I don't usually send things in. Thanks.
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Does anyone know if there in any information about EDJD's previous pimps? I know we always hear the most about McAlphin but not much about the other ones. I've seen their names and I thought one was tied to the bible she had (might be wrong on this) but do we know much about either one of them? Just curious.
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As far as past crimes go only LE can say if they want to pursue them. As far as any info that McAlpin gave..I personally think he’s full of it.
I keep an eye on this case and the past few months it seemed as if LE didn’t want to cooperate with different people/groups asking about DNA. I think this is a good reminder that LE doesn’t have to share their investigation into an open case.
I’m theorizing that the East Area Rapist bring captured has motivated more and more LE to look at DNA submitted to Ancestry sites...which also has its pros and cons.
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As far as past crimes go only LE can say if they want to pursue them. As far as any info that McAlpin gave..I personally think he’s full of it.
I keep an eye on this case and the past few months it seemed as if LE didn’t want to cooperate with different people/groups asking about DNA. I think this is a good reminder that LE doesn’t have to share their investigation into an open case.
I’m theorizing that the East Area Rapist bring captured has motivated more and more LE to look at DNA submitted to Ancestry sites...which also has its pros and cons.
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EDJD has never been a DNA Doe Project case, and it was unlikely if she could ever be one. According to Margaret Press of the DDP the DNA they refer to in NamUs was only CODIS markers, and the testing conducted by DDP would require much, much more, and not the same markers. AFAIK, EDJD was cremated, so getting that extra sample to extract sufficient amount of DNA for DDP to work on isn't possible.
EDJD has never been a DNA Doe Project case, and it was unlikely if she could ever be one. According to Margaret Press of the DDP the DNA they refer to in NamUs was only CODIS markers, and the testing conducted by DDP would require much, much more, and not the same markers. AFAIK, EDJD was cremated, so getting that extra sample to extract sufficient amount of DNA for DDP to work on isn't possible.
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Yes, here's a refresher: Detective Phillips received a phone call wanting to confirm her death and thought it was someone from her family , Now James has always said that EDJD would not want her mom to know due to her lifestyle, therefore my deduction that her mom knew and does not want to claim her .
Yes, here's a refresher: Detective Phillips received a phone call wanting to confirm her death and thought it was someone from her family , Now James has always said that EDJD would not want her mom to know due to her lifestyle, therefore my deduction that her mom knew and does not want to claim her .
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Regardless of what James McAlphin said I know there are several of us here that have felt like EDJD's closest family members have always known. I guess there could be some exceptions, like if her mother gave her up at a young age or had passed away. Other than something like that its hard to believe they wouldnt know.
Sometimes your pride can be hard to swallow. Maybe if this is for real and it gets enough exposure someone will go ahead and come forward.
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Hoping 2019 is the year for my girl! Still makes you wonder if she really does have kids out there somewhere. Will they be able to find them, or will that stay a mystery too? Got my fingers crossed you, EDJD!
I live less than 2 hours away from Eldorado. I’m always shocked that people don’t know about this case. Honestly, I can’t name one person in my life(outside of true crime forums) who is aware of /interested in this case. We become invested in this case, bc we put time into searches and become emotionally involved. The family that was found wasn’t aware of the case, and they aren’t too far from Arkansas, and one even Commented about being an ID fan(so one can presume she has an interest in true crime). Yet,I have seen nothing that leads me to believe she was aware of this case before being contacted by LE. So, I don’t think it’s out of the realm for the other side of her family to be unaware of her demise. If she left at 18 and kept little contact, they could think she just went on her way and wanted to be left alone.
When I was growing up, my father would go years without speaking to his parents. There was never a blow up or bad blood, he just lived his life(in some ways off the grid)He was very much an introvert and didn’t seek relationships with others. My parents divorced when I was young, so I too, realized early on how he was. While they wanted a relationship, they accepted how he was and just let him be. I think families often “let them go” out of love.
Maybe that’s what her maternal family did. Maybe they are unaware of this case..the same as her paternal family.
Will definitely be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
When I was growing up, my father would go years without speaking to his parents. There was never a blow up or bad blood, he just lived his life(in some ways off the grid)He was very much an introvert and didn’t seek relationships with others. My parents divorced when I was young, so I too, realized early on how he was. While they wanted a relationship, they accepted how he was and just let him be. I think families often “let them go” out of love.
Maybe that’s what her maternal family did. Maybe they are unaware of this case..the same as her paternal family.
Will definitely be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
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Ya did not think about that ! A DNA match in the case of adoption would be pretty worthless ! frustrating!
Well, if they could come up with the mothers name then LE could obtain the adoption records and find out her identity. Now whether or not they could ever release that information to the public I dont know.
Wow I’m sure we have discussed her on here as a possible. The circumstances and dates would work and the family did say that one side of them is the carters. If it is her then the mystery would be what happened to her between the age she disappeared and her becoming an adult.
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