BritsKate
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Maybe a thread for those who believe an intruder abduction is what happened is in order. That way, posters who see this as a possibility can have a place to go over the timeline, facts, etc. and begin sleuthing.
that thread exists. it was very short last time i checked, IMO because there are very few facts in this case, the timeline is incomplete thus far. there is very little concrete evidence to "sleuth"
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There already is one, Monkey.![]()
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I was called "sexist" in this very thread. Twice I believe. :crazy:
The problem with the timeline is that a substantial portion of it depends on the parents word (that we know of) which is not 100% reliable because they've changed their story. So who knows if our conception of the timeline is anywhere near accurate.With the timeline, I just can't make it work out that the parents are responsible.
Any path I try to take (the kids killed Lisa accidentally, the moms covered)(Deborah killed Lisa accidentally after the neighbor left and drove off to dispose of her body although she believed Jeremy would be coming home any minute)(Jeremy raced home to find a dead body and in lightening speed they disposed of her very well before calling the cops a few minutes later) etc.
I can't run any possible scenario to the ground (including that she had a boyfriend/friend come over and take the living or dead child - she had no phone, how could she have summoned someone?) without it hitting a big brick wall of being impossible.
I also can't see Lisa covering for anyone else who might have been in the home. I think a mother would cover only for her husband or another child of hers, and those scenarios above hit a brick wall.
It's like being in a maze where there isn't actually an outlet. No path leads out, of the parents being involved/knowing more.
The only thing left, is she's telling the truth and someone else came in without her knowledge and took the baby.
Why is it so easy to mix the names Lisa and Deborah? I have done it too even though they're nothing similar, and I've seen others do it. Strange.
many people here are more concerned with their behavior since their child disappeared, which, along with their changing stories, do arouse suspicion which is understandable given statistics. I could care less what someone's personal life is like-anyone can be a crime victim. But, once you claim you're a victim then you're kind of expected to cooperate with the people investigating the crime you reported. When you refuse to do that, hire a notorious criminal defense attorney, ignore local media in favor of national appearances where licensing fees are routinely given, and use media time to defend your actions instead of being concerned with your child, it's pretty ridiculous to expect rational people to blindly believe that you are just an innocent victim who is being treated unfairly. I initially believed them-only their subsequent behavior changed my mind. I don't think it's reasonable to ignore the obvious-that experience has shown that parents whose children are missing and who want them found, cooperate with the authorities who are searching.
And the truth is, if you are drunk to the point of possibly blacking out, I don't think you could ever honestly not blame yourself, no matter what turns out to have happened. Because you could never know for sure, barring video or another person's witnessing, what happened.
No I wouldn't, I doubt if anyone here would make a conscious decision to endanger their children but I have to ask ask how many would admit to hiring a babysitter, going on a night out, coming home after having a few drinks and sending the babysitter home ..... or has everyone else always been so perfectly far-sighted as to always have at least one adult always there as the 'designated in loco parentis' ?
I dunno, mea culpa, today I have two healthy, well-adjusted, happy, grown sons I probably don't deserve to have because, hand on heart, thinking back and going off today's standards I must have been one horribly inadequate parent. I didn't always think through EVERY possible scenario of what could go wrong if I did 'X' and 'Y' happened and then what if 'W'? I wish I had had ALL potential threats to my children's safety neatly mapped out on some flowchart to pin on my fridge and then they and I wouldn't have to go through any of the near misses and, yes, actual accidents that happened and scared the carp outta me. Those incidents were salutary warnings in the forefront of my mind ever after but only after they happened. There but for the grace of God and all that.
Who ever said the were guilty of MURDER? :waitasec:
With the timeline, I just can't make it work out that the parents are responsible.
I thought the notorious criminal defense attorney was provided for them by an anonymous benefactor? Although I know they have agreed to let him represent them, it's quite a different action from going out and tracking him down on their own.
She must wonder if she DOES know what happened to Lisa on some level. kgeaux was once a young college student, and kgeaux did once drink to the point of blacking out. Some of what happened that evening came back to me eventually, but other things are lost forever. I don't know how I got home that night, for instance, nor do I remember changing to my PJs and climbing into bed, but I must have done those things because I woke up the next afternoon in my own home, in my own bed and wearing my PJs.
I am not reading anything because I don't want to respond directly to anyone.. Just to Opening Question.
I think in this day and age, we have to be suspicious. We need to be cautious and be on watch. However, I think that can swing really hard in the wrong direction and that can cause issues.
With someone like CA ,she gave us all the ammunition we needed. I think most of us believe at the minimum it was neglect and at most, out right murder.
To me those suspicions were well warranted.
This case to me has been shifted along those lines of " they had to do it" but there is no proof, no stinky car, No blood, No chloroform, No lying for 31 days. None of that.
So I think that we need to be cautious, weigh it all out and even pose scenarios for possibility but still remain in the trench looking for justice.. not blame.
No I wouldn't, I doubt if anyone here would make a conscious decision to endanger their children but I have to ask ask how many would admit to hiring a babysitter, going on a night out, coming home after having a few drinks and sending the babysitter home ..... or has everyone else always been so perfectly far-sighted as to always have at least one adult always there as the 'designated in loco parentis' ?
I dunno, mea culpa, today I have two healthy, well-adjusted, happy, grown sons I probably don't deserve to have because, hand on heart, thinking back and going off today's standards I must have been one horribly inadequate parent. I didn't always think through EVERY possible scenario of what could go wrong if I did 'X' and 'Y' happened and then what if 'W'? I wish I had had ALL potential threats to my children's safety neatly mapped out on some flowchart to pin on my fridge and then they and I wouldn't have to go through any of the near misses and, yes, actual accidents that happened and scared the carp outta me. Those incidents were salutary warnings in the forefront of my mind ever after but only after they happened. There but for the grace of God and all that.