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Amazing. I would have thought a breach of parole automatically returned the offender to jail - whatever the crime. What is the point of parole then???:banghead:
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Amazing. I would have thought a breach of parole automatically returned the offender to jail - whatever the crime. What is the point of parole then???:banghead:
The point of parole- as with most useless, though 'professional', jobs in this society- is to create more bureaucratic positions for university educated *******s that shuffle paper from one "manager" to another. So there is a whole lot of 'middle management' created, which needlessly bloats bureaucracy; it happens in government, too; and Gillard recently floated that if Australia were re-founded, it would be done so without states- the abolition of states, with only federal government and local municipalities governing the people.
Parole boards are just another layer of useless bureaucracy to employ retired judges and other half-witted incompetents who desire a pay-check without useful work. It is simple:
1) abolish parole boards; and,
2) when a criminal violates parole, the police stick him back in jail. Full stop, end of story.
With the money saved on axing the parole board, we can pay for more jail staff to house the spike in jailed convicts owing to a stricter parole system. Currently, a parolee is detained by police, then the parole board is notified, which presumably consists in a police report being forwarded to them, it is read and nothing is done. I don't see why nothing is done. If the parole board is as useless as reading reports which are not acted on, then the parole board is obsolete.
If the courts need more judges to administer the law, then they should abolish the parole board and use that funding toward more judges to actually do the job of administering the law. That way the bailed will be on bail less time during which to commit further offences. I absolutely DETEST this argument: criminal X was on bail because he was merely 'charged', not convicted- and we all know how valuable presumed innocent before found guilty is; but while on bail, he raped three more women. But if he were sent to court and dealt with within a month, then he wouldn't be out on that bail time and engage in that reckless behaviour. Bail time it seems to me is reckless time during which criminals have the feeling of living beyond their tether, of living on borrowed time, of being walking dead people, so they act in a suitably reckless manner. In a way, i wouldn't blame them- if i were charged with a few rapes, and if i were let out on bail after spending a few weeks in jail, I could hardly believe my luck and I would think, those fools, I can’t believe it! there's no harm in doing a coupla more rapes. Why wouldn't one? That’s the track you’re travelling down, and I don’t see the law being any deterrent- especially as all it does is give you a few weeks free lodgings before the judge orders you back onto bail and out in the public where your predatory hunting simply resumes where you left it off. It simply begs belief that these kinds of people- accommodating such a reckless, negligent logic, who have so little to live for as the sword of Damocles is hanging over them in the form of already-pending-charges- are let back into society. It’s absolutely unconscionable that we suffer under such a system while white collar bureaucrats shuffle paper between each other as a means of justifying their professional careers at the expense of innocent victims.
All we need are police to catch offenders, and jailers to keep them behind bars. Everyone else in between- the bloated judiciary; irrelevant, bloated, negligent, dangerous, harmful, careless parole boards; QCs, SCs and other lawyers- are absolutely useless and without a doubt do nothing but detract from the job of keeping the dangerous off the street by siphoning funds from policing and (ironically) adding more judges to cut down on waiting periods for crimes to be brought before the courts. I personally think the judiciary should go and it should become an arm of policing, a slightly more formalised arm of policing. That judging is a discipline to itself, arcane, byzantine, over-wrought academia, is precisely why it too should be abolished- and judges can be quarantined to the newly created historico-literary department where they can write their abstruse language (hence literary) about practically irrelevant though infinitely interesting intellectual points (now historical because judging is rendered antique and placed in the dustbin of history), and not prove obstacles in the way of administering justice- alongside useless parole boards, in favour of more police and jailers to do practical work to keep criminals away. If you really think about it, parole boards and the judiciary feed off crime, so they have a vested interest in 'creating business' for themselves.
God help us, because we're on our own out there against a bureaucratic judiciary entertaining itself in long-winded useless judgments; parole boards drumming up business for themselves; politicians promising large and delivering small; and rapists getting back out there and, in disbelief at their luck, celebratory raping others for kicks.
Nothing will change; i simply don't trust the politicians, the judges, parole boards, or any of the other side-show clowns in between. Our bureaucratic judicial system has so many leeches and parasites that it's akin to the car industry which goes cap-in-hand to the government every 3 years threatening to shut-down and abscond to china where wages are 1/6th of what they are here and costs are 1/4. Reforming the parole system means cutting jobs of professionals in an ingrained useless system, and when that happens, the dead will miraculously resurrect at the coming of the messiah. Or, as the secular folks say, when pigs fly.
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Will be interesting to see what the decision will be in this one...
February 07, 2013
SERIAL rapist Robert John Fardon has told a court he has newfound "insight" and has even penned a manifesto detailing how he will stop himself from relapsing if he is released from an indefinite jail sentence.
Fardon, 63, took to the witness stand before Brisbane Supreme Court Justice Debra Mullins on Thursday to plead his case for release to the Wacol Precinct under a supervised court order.
A decision will be made next Wednesday.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...nder-court-order/story-e6freoof-1226572755188
The following link details just some of his crimes...
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/...on-monday-may-30/story-e6frfkp9-1226059582005
February 07, 2013
SERIAL rapist Robert John Fardon has told a court he has newfound "insight" and has even penned a manifesto detailing how he will stop himself from relapsing if he is released from an indefinite jail sentence.
Fardon, 63, took to the witness stand before Brisbane Supreme Court Justice Debra Mullins on Thursday to plead his case for release to the Wacol Precinct under a supervised court order.
A decision will be made next Wednesday.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...nder-court-order/story-e6freoof-1226572755188
The following link details just some of his crimes...
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/...on-monday-may-30/story-e6frfkp9-1226059582005
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I saw this on the ABC news. Alarm bells ringing in my head. <modsnip>
Do they ever castrate sexual offenders in Australia any more?
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Even if they were castrated, why do they get their freedom? This man is a peadophile and obviously cannot control himself. Surely they cannot let him out in light of all that has happened recently with released sex offenders.
Castrate them and keep them behind bars. I'm sick of these people using childhood abuse as an excuse. They'll be let out to do the same to another child and the cycle continues. We need to protect children and women from sick people like this.
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Just a guess but maybe it's for the woman who heard screams or one of the guys who passed by on the CCTV??
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Yes, interpreter could be for a prosecution witness with it being a two-day committal hearing and prosecution goes first, I think.
The local area has quite a mixed ethnicity.
The local area has quite a mixed ethnicity.
http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=10594
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I had not seen this info before *head in the sand!
Were all assuming this is a language interpreter. There is a sense of irony in needing an interpreter in this case- perhaps this interpreter is to illuminate for all of us how it was possible that bayley could commit such a horrible crime.
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I'm quoting my post to give an update. The wiki link is still there, and it doesn't have the notice that it might be deleted. It looks like it won't be disappearing!
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About the need for an interpreter, it is essential that witnesses fully understand questions and are able to fully answer them so if a witnesses does not have a very good understanding of english an interpreter is there to assist. It may be that the witness will still be able to answer in good english, the interpreter can just listen and assist to make sure that there is full communication between the witness and the questioners.
Only the prosecution present evidence at the committal so the witness will be a prosecution witness.
Only the prosecution present evidence at the committal so the witness will be a prosecution witness.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au
Interesting article for Victorians from Alan Howe, Herald Sun, February 11, 2013 12:00AM
IN VICTORIA, justice can be a privilege rather than a right.
Murderers, paedophiles and fraudsters have rights - plenty of them. And their interests are assiduously attended to by the State. We are all innocent until proved guilty and that's as it must be. But the State is too ready to protect the rights - sometimes even the identity - of the yet-to-be-found-guilty and the already convicted.
Interesting article for Victorians from Alan Howe, Herald Sun, February 11, 2013 12:00AM
IN VICTORIA, justice can be a privilege rather than a right.
Murderers, paedophiles and fraudsters have rights - plenty of them. And their interests are assiduously attended to by the State. We are all innocent until proved guilty and that's as it must be. But the State is too ready to protect the rights - sometimes even the identity - of the yet-to-be-found-guilty and the already convicted.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/if...should-make-them/story-e6frf7jo-1226574857452
This is an excellent opinion piece. Here are some poignant extracts:
Some years ago, Jenny Bird bought an urn she hopes might one day hold her daughter's ashes. You might read that sentence again to fully absorb the quiet anguish of another human being.
MACKAY'S poor widow Barbara died weeks later aged only 65 not knowing where her husband's remains were and not able to give him the Christian funeral she and her four children planned.
She even wrote a letter to Bazley in jail, forgiving him and pleading for him to let the family bury their husband and father.
The hitman for hire ignored it.
We should have stepped in, but Bazley had "rights" and because of them, Barbara Mackay is buried in Griffith forever alone.
Woman-hating Thomas Keith Halliday, who is serving 30 years in jail having murdered his disabled de facto Shelley Joy Stephenson, is another. Shelley's elderly parents have appealed for Halliday to let them bury daughter, but he steadfastly refuses to help with details of their child's whereabouts.
One of Shelley's daughters - she had three children - has picked out a heart-shaped headstone for her mother. How is it that any judge can give a man who, he notes, has shown no remorse, a life sentence with the hope of parole while he withholds such information?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/if...should-make-them/story-e6frf7jo-1226574857452
I agee with the writer that 'truth serum' should be applied to criminals to elicit confessions of the locations of victims from them.
This is an excellent opinion piece. Here are some poignant extracts:
Some years ago, Jenny Bird bought an urn she hopes might one day hold her daughter's ashes. You might read that sentence again to fully absorb the quiet anguish of another human being.
MACKAY'S poor widow Barbara died weeks later aged only 65 not knowing where her husband's remains were and not able to give him the Christian funeral she and her four children planned.
She even wrote a letter to Bazley in jail, forgiving him and pleading for him to let the family bury their husband and father.
The hitman for hire ignored it.
We should have stepped in, but Bazley had "rights" and because of them, Barbara Mackay is buried in Griffith forever alone.
Woman-hating Thomas Keith Halliday, who is serving 30 years in jail having murdered his disabled de facto Shelley Joy Stephenson, is another. Shelley's elderly parents have appealed for Halliday to let them bury daughter, but he steadfastly refuses to help with details of their child's whereabouts.
One of Shelley's daughters - she had three children - has picked out a heart-shaped headstone for her mother. How is it that any judge can give a man who, he notes, has shown no remorse, a life sentence with the hope of parole while he withholds such information?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/if...should-make-them/story-e6frf7jo-1226574857452
I agee with the writer that 'truth serum' should be applied to criminals to elicit confessions of the locations of victims from them.
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If anyone's interested I've just opened a thread for the shocking case of young Mackay woman who was viciously attacked just metres from home last Friday night. Police have released CCTV footage from a nearby McDonalds drive-thru
Qld Australia - 23yr old Mackay woman killed in vicious attack - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
Qld Australia - 23yr old Mackay woman killed in vicious attack - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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Folks I've made a new thread in Crimes in the News about serial rapist Robert Fardon. The above reports will be copied over shortly.
Australia -Serial rapist Robert Fardon - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
Australia -Serial rapist Robert Fardon - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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Could be an interpreter for foreign language or a signing interpreter for hearing impaired.
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Doesn't this make your blood boil?
Disgraceful....
"JILL Meagher's alleged killer is getting "Rolls-Royce" taxpayer-funded legal representation despite other accused criminals having their aid cut. "
"He was represented by both a barrister and solicitor in at least one procedural hearing before a magistrate - which is rare under Victoria Legal Aid guidelines.
And the cash-strapped VLA has funded a solicitor to visit Mr Bayley up to twice a day since his September arrest, legal sources say."
http://www.news.com.au/national/vip...meaghers-murder/story-fncynjr2-1226587207584#
Disgraceful....
"JILL Meagher's alleged killer is getting "Rolls-Royce" taxpayer-funded legal representation despite other accused criminals having their aid cut. "
"He was represented by both a barrister and solicitor in at least one procedural hearing before a magistrate - which is rare under Victoria Legal Aid guidelines.
And the cash-strapped VLA has funded a solicitor to visit Mr Bayley up to twice a day since his September arrest, legal sources say."
http://www.news.com.au/national/vip...meaghers-murder/story-fncynjr2-1226587207584#
I'm fuming. What an absolute joke.
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