Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #10

[they'll get you]

Yes, I can see it now, closing shot on A Current Affair, backview of They'll Get You running starkers up the road into the sunset ...... ��

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With women screaming and dogs barking.

I can wear gumboots.

 

[they'll get you]

This is why no more info is being released IMO


Feb 2017

Ristevski murder case leaks worry police

Police investigating the murder of Melbourne mother Karen Ristevski have expressed concern over a series of leaks, claiming that ongoing speculation potentially puts the case at risk.

Following reports yesterday that detectives had attempted to track the car of Mrs Ristevski’s husband Borce following her disappearance, Victoria Police issued a statement calling for an end to speculation around the mystery that has fascinated the Melbourne for eight months.


WS site reloaded 5 times while posting and I lost The Australian link
My apologies.
I thought the problem was fixed. Not to be.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

This is why no more info is being released IMO


Feb 2017

Ristevski murder case leaks worry police

Police investigating the murder of Melbourne mother Karen Ristevski have expressed concern over a series of leaks, claiming that ongoing speculation potentially puts the case at risk.

Following reports yesterday that detectives had attempted to track the car of Mrs Ristevski’s husband Borce following her disappearance, Victoria Police issued a statement calling for an end to speculation around the mystery that has fascinated the Melbourne for eight months.


WS site reloaded 5 times while posting and I lost The Australian link
My apologies.
I thought the problem was fixed. Not to be.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...e/news-story/bc9a949fcba4d5be2d3505caef7059fc

 

[they'll get you]

Is bugging or tacking a car an invasion of privacy or something?
I thought police were able to do those things but I'm sure a legal eagle would find some fine print.

 

[Didi1201]

Is bugging or tacking a car an invasion of privacy or something?
I thought police were able to do those things but I'm sure a legal eagle would find some fine print.

Warrant from court is needed, police can get it easily, it is just a formality in this case but i doubt tracking/bugging helped cops with gathering any useful evidence since br was already aware of all these, he even took tracking device off his vehicle and you can bet your house he only uses phones to play games and order pizza



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[sosocurious]

Warrant from court is needed, police can get it easily, it is just a formality in this case but i doubt tracking/bugging helped cops with gathering any useful evidence since br was already aware of all these, he even took tracking device off his vehicle and you can bet your house he only uses phones to play games and order pizza



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Yes I think you are right. No useful evidence gathered given BR was probably already aware that it was a formality.
Good thing he removed it though.
I do wonder if there really was ever a tracking devices planted in the 2 cars BR drove. .
It was he that told the reporter he could not speak because he thought his phone was tapped ..wasn't it?
So suspicious. You would swear he had something to hide.
imo.

 

[sosocurious]

Warrant from court is needed, police can get it easily, it is just a formality in this case but i doubt tracking/bugging helped cops with gathering any useful evidence since br was already aware of all these, he even took tracking device off his vehicle and you can bet your house he only uses phones to play games and order pizza



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As you say Br seems to be aware that bugs and tracking were just a formality.
That is what I do not understand. He must have also known that all available cctv in the area and phone records and pings would be obtained and scrutinised bt the police.
Presumably from the day and the days and weeks before Karen disappeared.
I sometime find myself wondering if Karen even made it home on the 28th. As BR was often at the store helping and supporting even on slow days. Maybe they often traveled in the one car.
That problem at Watergardens on the 28th. Was it really just an issue with sales and takings?
Or was it a business decision that had recently been decided and was now irreversible?
imo
.

 

[they'll get you]

Would a hit man be easily located at a casino, a race track,, overseas connections or on about an uber drive
Where else are cheesy characters?
Someone could have been waiting in or around the garage.

 

[Adrianna]

Yes, I can see it now, closing shot on A Current Affair, backview of They'll Get You running starkers up the road into the sunset ...... ��

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Off topic I know ..... as long as a certain journalist wasn't the one covering it, I would watch it and chuckle.

Sadly there seems to be more and more of these rock spiders walking among us, so many don't understand that by viewing it they are just as bad as those who make it because without people to view it, there is no reason to make it.

On topic, watching cold case on tv, we know the police never give up but I truly hope Karen doesn't need to wait years for justice, each day I check the news to hear if there has been an arrest.

 

[Didi1201]

Off topic I know ..... as long as a certain journalist wasn't the one covering it, I would watch it and chuckle.

Sadly there seems to be more and more of these rock spiders walking among us, so many don't understand that by viewing it they are just as bad as those who make it because without people to view it, there is no reason to make it.

On topic, watching cold case on tv, we know the police never give up but I truly hope Karen doesn't need to wait years for justice, each day I check the news to hear if there has been an arrest.

Police does not have unlimited resources to keep investigating forever, new cases are coming through and old ones end up on back burner.

Looking at KR case where no one saw anything, no witnesses, no video and nothing premeditated to conmect br to murder, breakthrough can only come if someone from R family decides to speaks up or via bugging, trucking.

I can't see any of these happen, R's will remain silent and I would be surprised if anything comes out of bugging.

Detectives are not super humans, they can only do so much hoping killer made some crucial mistakes












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[SouthAussie]

Is bugging or tacking a car an invasion of privacy or something?
I thought police were able to do those things but I'm sure a legal eagle would find some fine print.

Yes, it seems that police can legally track a vehicle (with a warrant) without interference from any fine print.


The Surveillance Devices Act 1999 is primarily aimed at controlling “covert” (secret) surveillance and illegal recording of private conversations or activities.
This Act specifically allows properly approved covert surveillance by the authorities e.g. police and federal agencies.
http://www.safetyaction.com.au/latest-news/articles/2015/june/gps-tracking-of-vehicles/


Pg 24 of the Act explains it more fully. Police apparently are allowed ....

the installation, use or maintenance of a tracking device in accordance with a warrant, emergency authorisation, corresponding warrant or corresponding emergency authorisation
http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/Domino/Web_Notes/LDMS/LTObject_Store/LTObjSt4.nsf/DDE300B846EED9C7CA257616000A3571/C93F9022F0F6BB34CA2577610032F3F3/$FILE/99-21a020.pdf

 

[Hbayne]

The ant is calling BR a woman killer

 

[purpleandgreen]

How does that go legally? Could BR sue or have him charged, or because it's on SM doesn't it matter? Just wondering. But then maybe BR doesn't want to give it publicity.

The ant is calling BR a woman killer

 

[Itsapuzzle]

The ant is calling BR a woman killer

Boy oh boy ... he don't hold back, our ant man!


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[ozazure]

I think the fancy lawyer has made it difficult for them. Hope Starry sleeps well at night.

So, say Borce has killed Karen at home, bundled her body into the car and is heading up the Calder. At some point, he thinks F^%K, the phones, and stops to deal with them somewhere around Blackhill Rd, maybe to turn off and dispose of Karen's and turn his own off, or whatever. Then he drives her to Macedon and returns to Avondale Heights to wait for her to not come home from her "walk to clear her head". He is aware that he has stuffed up with the phones, so why doesn't he weave his Calder jaunt into the narrative for the police at this stage? If he knows enough to deal with the phones during the disposal journey, he knows what the phones can reveal. He can bust out his drive story straightaway and not look guilty bringing it up later. Maybe the stress causes this big error.

I only ever used a short stretch of the Calder to go to Watergardens, getting off and going up the Melton Hwy, until late last year when I discovered that Kings Rd exit/entry, so I never really considered the possibility that they would have traveled up a fair bit of the Calder from AH to get to the shopping centre. So this makes me wonder if Borce and Karen used to travel to Bella Bleu to work together and if they did, whose car they took. Did they set out to go to work together and something erupted?

I also never paid much attention to the talk of their connections to property near where the initial searches took place. Did something draw them there? Or perhaps the drama with AR - was the $850 to shut him up, whether he is lying or not, one of them thinks the easiest thing to do is just give him money, and this turned into a heated fight. Maybe they are together for a purpose, Karen alive, where the trackable data stopped, the data that caused the various searches. And then Borce didn't think about covering up that they were there, only from then on once it went bad. Later he sets the last known place she was back in AH, forgetting to account for the evidence of that time they spent together between AH and Blackhill Rd.

Anyway, it's all speculation when it is strung together on very few facts.

 

[Didi1201]

Just thinking, SR, Ar and VR are almost certainly under surveillance, bugged, tracked etc, not only BR?



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[they'll get you]

The ant is calling BR a woman killer

That's huge!
Loose lips sink ships....c'mon Antics do your stuff for aunty TGY.
GOOD BOY.

This just can't go cold.

 

[wewillgetyou]

That's huge!
Loose lips sink ships....c'mon Antics do your stuff for aunty TGY.
GOOD BOY.

This just can't go cold.

Gee you make me laugh ! Aunty TGY lol

 

[they'll get you]

Gee you make me laugh ! Aunty TGY lol

I loves ya back.
From tgy to wwgy.

Antics is poking the nest. GOOD BOY!
BS might retaliate and that could be his downfall.

 

[they'll get you]

How does that go legally? Could BR sue or have him charged, or because it's on SM doesn't it matter? Just wondering. But then maybe BR doesn't want to give it publicity.

I think BS would be acared to start legal action and you're right, no more publicity.
Sue? Sue has no money.