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Antics is kinda like a laxative.
Antics is kinda like a laxative.
Just thinking, SR, Ar and VR are almost certainly under surveillance, bugged, tracked etc, not only BR?
The Herald Sun can reveal Vasko Ristevski owned a racehorse whose former trainer’s stud is at Toolern Vale ...
Mr Kavanagh’s stud on Blackhill Rd borders the properties where police drained dams during a two-day search in December.
A witness had told police they saw Vasko Ristevski at a nearby abandoned restaurant around the time of the disappearance of the Avondale Heights mother.
Macedon resident Dean told police that in the days after Ms Ristevski disappeared, he saw two strange men matching the description of Borce and Vasko Ristevksi bogged in a small white truck on Salisbury Rd — about 200m from where the body was found.
“From their appearance I knew they were from Serbia, Macedonia, the Balkans. They certainly had an accent,” Dean said.
Yes, Ozazure, I reckon you're probably right here, as simple as BR driving KR to work, they have argument, park the car somewhere out of sight, maybe strangles her in a rage ..... rings VR, they meet out at the Toolern Vale, could have left body there, and overnight disposal up at Loch Rd. SR may have no idea about what's happened, AR too. Yep, as simple as that 🤔I think the fancy lawyer has made it difficult for them. Hope Starry sleeps well at night.
So, say Borce has killed Karen at home, bundled her body into the car and is heading up the Calder. At some point, he thinks F^%K, the phones, and stops to deal with them somewhere around Blackhill Rd, maybe to turn off and dispose of Karen's and turn his own off, or whatever. Then he drives her to Macedon and returns to Avondale Heights to wait for her to not come home from her "walk to clear her head". He is aware that he has stuffed up with the phones, so why doesn't he weave his Calder jaunt into the narrative for the police at this stage? If he knows enough to deal with the phones during the disposal journey, he knows what the phones can reveal. He can bust out his drive story straightaway and not look guilty bringing it up later. Maybe the stress causes this big error.
I only ever used a short stretch of the Calder to go to Watergardens, getting off and going up the Melton Hwy, until late last year when I discovered that Kings Rd exit/entry, so I never really considered the possibility that they would have traveled up a fair bit of the Calder from AH to get to the shopping centre. So this makes me wonder if Borce and Karen used to travel to Bella Bleu to work together and if they did, whose car they took. Did they set out to go to work together and something erupted?
I also never paid much attention to the talk of their connections to property near where the initial searches took place. Did something draw them there? Or perhaps the drama with AR - was the $850 to shut him up, whether he is lying or not, one of them thinks the easiest thing to do is just give him money, and this turned into a heated fight. Maybe they are together for a purpose, Karen alive, where the trackable data stopped, the data that caused the various searches. And then Borce didn't think about covering up that they were there, only from then on once it went bad. Later he sets the last known place she was back in AH, forgetting to account for the evidence of that time they spent together between AH and Blackhill Rd.
Anyway, it's all speculation when it is strung together on very few facts.
It could be a hired hit with Masadonian connections
“From their appearance I knew they were from Serbia, Macedonia, the Balkans. They certainly had an accent,” Dean said.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/kar...15942a01e289ad
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Or perhaps the drama with AR - was the $850 to shut him up,
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That's true. It's conveniently a large enough sum of money for Karen to 'disappear' for a few weeks without touching her credit card or ATM, therefore in no immediate danger. BR playing for time and if he's a high roller, it's second nature. SR's face revealed the enormity of the situation could only mean one thing, she was dead.Detectives would surely had a field day with the $850....
Neither of us here would have a clue what the other has in their wallet or purse.
Sarah, a university student who has been working in her mothers clothing shop, looks frail, says Celhar-Hili, who is a long-time friend of Karens. She is a beautiful person. She said they are having a hard time and her dad is copping a lot.
From https://www.who.com.au/article/news/karen-ristevski-case-dad-is-copping-a-lot
So this was in March , yet SR claims her dad is "copping a lot". Does she think her dad didn't do it? With all the available evidence at hand and what "she knows",
who does she think did it then? To me it comes across like SR seems to think that it's unjustifiable that her father is "copping it".
If he is indeed the killer then bloody oath he should be copping it. The murderers life, till caught/charged, should be living hell. Absolutely!
Wouldn't SR want the same for the person who took away her her mother forever.
Just seems like a strange comment to make to her mums close friend.
SR could be in shock. It would be hard to believe your father is capable of killing. Imo, it's not because she doesn't care for her mother, she loves them both. When it all goes down, I'm sure she will need therapy. It's an unusual predicament to be in and I have no idea how I would react in the same situation.
But wouldn't all her friends be telling her that br is is the one who did it, i mean she must be the only one who thinks it was a work of a random stranger??It's likely SR would have cognitive dissonance.
'In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress (discomfort) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values; when performing an action that contradicts existing beliefs, ideas, or values; or when confronted with new information that contradicts existing beliefs, ideas, and values.[1][2] In other words, the term refers to the perception of incompatibility of two simultaneous cognitions, which can impact on their attitudes.'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
SR could be in shock. It would be hard to believe your father is capable of killing. Imo, it's not because she doesn't care for her mother, she loves them both. When it all goes down, I'm sure she will need therapy. It's an unusual predicament to be in and I have no idea how I would react in the same situation.
Yeah. The while thing about the $800 she had with her was weird. Exactly why would he even know what she had in her purse?
And Sarah? She still lives in the family home. If she is suspicious of him what is she going to do if she is financially unable to move out? She might just be stuck at home with a Dad who might have murdered her Mom.
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Yes I understand she was in shock "earlier on", but 9 months down the track, surely reality would set in . She has lost her mother. Her mother, her best friend will never return. The other person she loved (BR) took away her right to have her mother in her life. I get that there is the feeling on shock, loneliness and disbelief. But when does the anger and distrust kick in. 9 months is a long time to still be on his side and not want justice served for your mother.
9 months to not be able to mourn and grieve the person you loved with your father whom you'd be spending quite a bit of time with. That's tough.
If you have nothing to hide , then you would be free to mourn, vent, ask questions, answer questions , help solve this crime. After all the police etc are after the killer and are there to help Sarah to get justice for her mother .It would be tough especially if you feel that your phones, cars and possibly home are bugged.
Where do you vent, yell, scream and ask the questions you need answered.
Knowing would be unbearable. Not knowing unfathomable.
Who do you trust?