Loveandpeace
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I’d like to know when B used the iPad to do some google searching. Those searches alone would not be done by an innocent person. I can’t wait until they bring this up!!
Especially if the searches were before the day of 'disappearance'!I’d like to know when B used the iPad to do some google searching. Those searches alone would not be done by an innocent person. I can’t wait until they bring this up!!
I think you may be right 'Fluffykins', could this be the start of ploy by the defence to plead for an accidental death. So far I don't think there is anything in the evidence to suggest that it was premeditated. It only seems the cover up to conceal the crime is so suss.
Why do we assume it all happened after SR left to school? Does police entertain a possibility it happened while SR was still in the house and maybe she was involved or witnessed it.
The problem will be to convince a jury that it was BR and not SR as it could have easily been her even though he lies and his stories are inconsistent it doesn't not make him guilty, maybe covering for his daughter after accidental death.
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Especially if the searches were before the day of 'disappearance'!
IMO the leniency of manslaughter convictions put so much more pressure on prosecution to prove murder. How could one take an innocent life so casually, and without remorse afterwards, and do so much to cover up, get away with just a few years even if convicted with manslaughter? It just isn't right.Between 2011 -2016 the average sentence for murder in Victoria was 19 years 1 month. The average sentence for manslaughter ranged from 6 years 11 months to 8 years 11 months.
source: Sentencing Advisory Council Victoria.
my version of bumping up the 3AW screen grabs sleepinoz kindly found March 2017
soso raised the very question i've been thinking - apart from SR and BR who really did see or speak to Karen last (including cctv...) and when was that?
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Yes, Intercepting Sarah at the airport - what cause would they have to do that? Was she ever considered a suspect?
Hi All.
I have not posted in a while but have read every post and want to say thank you to all who are keeping us informed with the hearing details and everyone for your thoughts and input.
I just had/have a few thoughts and are all IMOO.
I hope this goes to trial for murder. BR has way too many inconsistencies in his stories and the coincidences are far too many. SR I think was a very immature and unreliable witness on the stand. I am not sure what to make of her bahaviour/ words etc since her mother went missing and was subsequently found deceased. If she truly believes it was not her father who murdered her mum, then who does she think did it? Unless of course she knows who that person is. Is it possible she had witnessed the whole thing and to her it appeared to be an accident and has since suffered a type of stokholm syndrome/ PTSD to believe BR is innocent. Or was she herself directly involved and BR is covering up fof her. I just see how a logical person would otherwise think BR is innocent given All the coincidences and inconsistencies that have come to light.
BR's actions and attitude since KR disappeared initially and then the discovery of her body did not portray a worried/ grieving husband intent on finding out who did this. He came across more angry (at KR) in a way, like it was a bother or inconvenience. Plus his initial actions gave the implication he knew (well now it is alleged he knew) that she was deceased. It is either him being smug and hoping he gets away with it or him accepting to take the fall for someone else and still hoping to get away with it.
AR disappeared off the radar after all his continuous cryptic rants. I sometimes wonder if those rants had any depth to them. He had a hate towards BR. I guess either because he knew/suspected what he had done to KR or because somehow BR had implicated him in the whole thing. Remember the podcast a friend of his did saying that they knew what happened... maybe BR had involved AR and once KR was found and things started coming to light he (AR) got angry at BR for implicating him and then subsequently getting caught. Is it Diggers Rest where he lives? If so I find the phone pings there interesting. Is AR now being held in jail? Could the cops have used this arrest of his as a way to keep him under supervision not to do anything silly or dangerous or damaging to the case.
With regards to VR- I believe he is involved to some degree... either as an accessory or BR confided in him as to what happened. The report of the Merc and a 4WD always comes to mind.
Lastly I remember reading that the police saying the house was where they allege BR killed or 'incapacitated' KR. Does this mean she could have been placed in the car unconscious as opposed to deceased and then killed elsewhere?
Apologies for the loong post
And again the above is IMO MOO.
This is going to sound really repugnant and gross...so I apologise ahead of time
Coming from a rural area. ... I've come across many disturbed dead animal carracasses.... disturbed by other foraging animals...
If all that was disturbed on Karen's remains were her hyiod bones in her neck.....
You would have one very selective animal predator.....extremely unplausable.
Can it be diffinately be ruled out. .. No!!!
But is it in sync with normal animal- retriever.. behaviour to be selective to one small area of a carcass..... no!!!
If there is strong evidence of a motive , such as serious financial problems and BR had some direct benefits from Karen's death, then murder was more likely than manslaughter. IMO.
That was a factor in the Baden-Clay conviction right?
We still don't know which clothes, if any, KR was found in right?