Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #18

[JusticeforWilliam]

This has probably already been posted earlier, but apparently it's 13 minutes with no traffic to drive to the searched caravan park from Kendall, via Ocean Dr.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/caravan-p...g-toddler-william-tyrell-20150121-12ux0y.html

Image source: Google Maps

 

[Makara]

Something just popped into my head this morning it had to do with dates...

Tony Jones arrested 27th September 2014

Report on the 22nd January 2015 - A Fibro Cabin @ The Haven Caravan Park was searched approximately 16th January 2015
following reports that people had heard a child crying from that Cabin in the weeks after William went missing.

The dates the people had been staying @ the Cabin were from the 28th September 2014 - 9th of October 2014

Maybe nothing .... but could it also be an indication of a possible transfer date from one location to another ????

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/caravan-p...g-toddler-william-tyrell-20150121-12ux0y.html

Jones was arrested on 15 September 2014 and locked up on 27th September 2014.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-17&p=12097567#post12097567 Post #892.

 

[Puggle]

Jones was arrested on 15 September 2014 and locked up on 27th September 2014.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...l-NSW-12-Sept-2014-17&p=12097567#post12097567 Post #892.

Yeah now I'm getting confused ...I remember the date the 15th being mentioned ....

But I can't find an actual msm article link with that date

The only ones I can find now...all say he was arrested on the 27th of September

So was he charged maybe on the 15th and bailed to appear on the 27th...where he pleaded guilty??


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/index.html?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/another-william-tyrrell-person-of-interest/story-e6frg6nf-1227523621775&memtype=anonymous

 

[Makara]

Yeah now I'm getting confused ...I remember the date the 15th being mentioned ....

But I can't find an actual msm article link with that date

The only ones I can find now...all say he was arrested on the 27th of September

So was he charged maybe on the 15th and bailed to appear on the 27th...where he pleaded guilty??


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/subscribe/news/1/index.html?sourceCode=TAWEB_WRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/another-william-tyrrell-person-of-interest/story-e6frg6nf-1227523621775&memtype=anonymous

Yes, I'd say that was the case. Arrested on 15th September and bailed to appear on 27th September where he pleaded guilty and was locked up for almost 12 months until his sentencing.

His arrest on the 15th is mentioned in the video at the link below where it states that he was arrested three days after William disappeared. So 12 +3 = 15. LOL.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/wat...ny-jones-sentenced-to-three-years-jail/#page1

 

[Deleted member 102539]

O/T but damn Detective Inspector Jubelin has aged well

Yes. :giggle:

 

[Puggle]

Yes, I'd say that was the case. Arrested on 15th September and bailed to appear on 27th September where he pleaded guilty and was locked up for almost 12 months until his sentencing.

His arrest on the 15th is mentioned in the video at the link below where it states that he was arrested three days after William disappeared. So 12 +3 = 15. LOL.

Mmm well maybe that gives a bit more credibility to the whole "Kicked Out" thing...

And I am imagining that the kicked out part may of even come before the 15th .... would'nt it be reasonable to assume that the allegation aspect may have even been brought up before the official charge ??

 

[Makara]

Mmm well maybe that gives a bit more credibility to the whole "Kicked Out" thing...

And I am imagining that the kicked out part may of even come before the 15th .... would'nt it be reasonable to assume that the allegation aspect may have even been brought up before the official charge ??

BBM: Yes, absolutely. He was arrested on the 15th September but the allegations and investigation would have occurred before William disappeared.

 

[richieswan]

We know TJ has a history of over 90 offences. That's just what he's been caught for. Imagine what he's got away with! His offences vary greatly, so perhaps he interacts with numerous and diverse types of associates. IMO, someone bad always knows someone badder. So with a wide range of 'habits', that's a lot of serious badass out there, possibly close to his roaming grounds. If TJ was involved, I can't see a good outcome in that sort of universe. I'm sorry to say that, but I still hold hope (I have to).

Afterthought: maybe he's a loner and doesn't have buddies on the same (or worse) wavelength. His history shows he's sloppy and hopefully he will slip here, big time.

My thoughts only. Go Jubes.

 

[Puggle]

One could say he stole items for himself....but with that wrap sheet - it sounds more organised..
I'm going with him having an inner circle of trusted buddies....

All with their own secrets to keep...

I have to admit I liked it when someone suggested awhile back on here....who could be a thieves best buddy - A pawn broker perhaps???

 

[richieswan]

One could say he stole items for himself....but with that wrap sheet - it sounds more organised..
I'm going with him having an inner circle of trusted buddies....

All with their own secrets to keep...

I have to admit I liked it when someone suggested awhile back on here....who could be a thieves best buddy - A pawn broker perhaps???

OT, once my car was broken into. Stolen was lots, including an iPod. I reported iPod serial number to LE. They looked on their 'registry' and found it had been sold to major retailer pawn shop (like the pawn shop cares, but they must have to submit serial numbers). LE instantly retrieved sellers details: slam, bam, in jail. LE phoned me to say thanks, because they were waiting a long time to find solid evidence on this guy (he had a long and dangerous list).

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

I had the same issue and had to change browser to Chrome (which I hate) and I've had no problem since.

I've found that if I sign in on my iPad I stay signed in indefinitely, which looks as though I'm constantly on line. But I actually do go to work and not just hang out here. It never logs me out for some reason but if I'm on my PC it does

 

[JusticeforWilliam]

Maybe I'm being overly confident (with the small amount of information/facts we outside the investigation know), but it truly sounds to me the police have the right perpetrators in their grasp.

I'm guessing it's now just a waiting game of collecting enough evidence for convictions and proving who did what. And, of course, perhaps playing their cards right so they can be led to the location of William and possible other children.

I hope it's the above, and not that they have actually hit a brick wall in their investigation. The idea of which frightens me, of-course. Especially after reading about a defeated Jubelin in this article today, in regards to a different case.
http://www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/bowraville-pain-three-lost-children-remains-raw/1749650/

I do have a feeling we are currently experiencing the calm before the storm in regards to William, and that the conclusion of this nightmare will be powerful and soon. I look forward to justice being swift and severe.

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

Yes theft of the bins left out was discussed on the Police FB page. It mentions they were going to release info to media about it.
https://m.facebook.com/MidNorthCoastLAC/posts/537560043012703

Its interesting to note one of the comments in this article with regard to a guy from Wauchope who has taken around 50 bins. Could that have been AJ's original intention when visiting Benaroon drive?

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[Cagney&Lacey]

Sorry Makara I did paraphrase but shouldn't have cut and pasted

 

[Puggle]

OT, but once my car was broken into. Stolen was lots, including an iPod. I reported iPod serial number to LE. They looked on their 'registry' and found it had been sold to major retailer pawn shop (like the pawn shop cares, but they must have to submit serial numbers). LE instantly retrieved sellers details: slam, bam, in jail. LE phoned me to say thanks, because they were waiting a long time to find solid evidence on this guy (he had a long and dangerous list).

Yeah we here of a lot of car break ins.....too many these days.. you are very lucky richeswan... I'm glad you helpt catch tha ar*******s

I live in a semi rural area ... probably a bit more isolated than Williams Nana's house though...

We were broken into about 4-5 years ago ... the police said it would have taken at least two to three people to load the items - small tractor was one of the items....Bastards also stole my sons remote control helicopter (but forgot the remote...so no use to them!!!!) grrr..)

Our local coppers were useless and didn't even bother dusting for fingerprints ........ seems thefts are too hard for them to follow up!!!


But I have heard of many many similar thefts in our surrounding country towns.... and all seem to be the work of more than one person... Thankfully now we are getting better with our community Facebook pages reporting suspicious behaviour....

?? Does Kendall/kew/Laurieton have similar community pages..... wonder if there was any mention of White station wagon/grey car's acting suspiciously ???

 

[Makara]

Maybe I'm being overly confident (with the small amount of information/facts we outside the investigation know), but it truly sounds to me the police have the right perpetrators in their grasp.

I'm guessing it's now just a waiting game of collecting enough evidence for convictions and proving who did what. And, of course, perhaps playing their cards right so they can be led to the location of William and possible other children.

I hope it's the above, and not that they have actually hit a brick wall in their investigation. The idea of which frightens me, of-course. Especially after reading about a defeated Jubelin in this article today, in regards to a different case.
http://www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/bowraville-pain-three-lost-children-remains-raw/1749650/

I do have a feeling we are currently experiencing the calm before the storm in regards to William, and that the conclusion of this nightmare will be powerful and soon. I look forward to justice being swift and severe.

That article is dated 2013. The article below is dated August 2015. Gary Jubelin will never give up on the Bowraville case and he will never give up on William. Nice photo of Gary at this link as well. :heartluv:

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...ler-put-on-trial/story-e6frfmyi-1227289598229

 

[JusticeforWilliam]

:loveyou:I admire Jubelin (and his team) so much, and he is the reason I have hope in William being found. I look at it like a superhero detective fighting to save a baby Spiderman.

I love this video - it's interesting how he says the reward strategy is not necessary yet. Everything is so strategic. My gut is telling me William may still be alive.
[video=youtube;E3HNcCOob4Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3HNcCOob4Y[/video]

That article is dated 2013. The article below is dated August 2015. Gary Jubelin will never give up on the Bowraville case and he will never give up on William. Nice photo of Gary at this link as well. :heartluv:

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...ler-put-on-trial/story-e6frfmyi-1227289598229

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

Maybe I'm being overly confident (with the small amount of information/facts we outside the investigation know), but it truly sounds to me the police have the right perpetrators in their grasp.

I'm guessing it's now just a waiting game of collecting enough evidence for convictions and proving who did what. And, of course, perhaps playing their cards right so they can be led to the location of William and possible other children.

I do have a feeling we are currently experiencing the calm before the storm in regards to William, and that the conclusion of this nightmare will be powerful and soon. I look forward to justice being swift and severe.

Thats my line of thinking J4W. WIth it being reported that there are a load more POI's that haven't been declared and the fact that the interview with FM & FF seem to be talking to someone who has their child I hold out hope. I'm sure FM & FF would feed off Det Jubelin feedback and if he thought William was gone I think the interview would of played out a differently. I get the feeling that LE think our little man is still alive and being held by someone known to or indeed one of the many POI's. The parents sense of relative calm give me hope. If they thought he was in vile danger I would have thought I would sense terror in their voices. But they seem to have a sense of calm but with a forceful message to return their child.

i just hope that who ever has him, however misguided their intentions were at the onset, are now giving him some moments of light and laughter each day so that he may one day return to a normal life albeit after a lot of care and treatment

 

[stormyseas]

BBM: Yes, absolutely. He was arrested on the 15th September but the allegations and investigation would have occurred before William disappeared.

This is interesting. I have always assumed that the investigation into William's disappearance led police to investigate TJ, because he was already an alleged (?) sex offender. Does that mean his arrest three days after WT's disappearance was pure coincidence, or was his arrest in some way related to the abduction investigation? MOO

 

[richieswan]

:loveyou:I admire Jubelin (and his team) so much, and he is the reason I have hope in William being found. I look at it like a superhero detective fighting to save a baby Spiderman.

I love this video - it's interesting how he says the reward strategy is not necessary yet. Everything is so strategic. My gut is telling me William may still be alive.

Looks like the "owner" of that video has prevented embedded videos that "prevent playback from other devices". Sorry about that, I'll make them more accessible tonight.

UPDATE: embedding fixed. Playlist of 6 WT videos (60 minutes) here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhbcNnha1ai71hO8JYXKLLF9dsaZLcO6k

I've been trying to add radio interviews to my YT Channel but hit some technical snags. Please send me links to other videos/interviews and I'll add them to playlist for our Sleuthing library.