Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #26

[frogwell]

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/475...e-for-william/

Hastings residents are invited to light a candle for William on Monday night to mark his sixth year and to reinvigorate conversation that may provoke someone who knows something to speak out.

The Strike Force, led by the State Crime Command’s Homicide Squad, has been boosted by a secondary contingent - Strike Force Rosann 2 - drawing in recruitments from the Armed Hold up Squad, Sex Crimes and Fraud Squad and officers from local area commands across the state.

I know we looked at Rosann 2 before but just finding who they recruited interesting.

All the following departments come under the Serious Crime Squad as opposed to any of the organised crime squads. The strikeforce is still lead by Homicide squad which is also a part of the serious crime squad.

Robbery & Serious Crime Squad
The Robbery & Serious Crime Squad charter focuses upon the crime disciplines of: Armed Robbery, Product Contamination, Extortion, and Kidnap for Ransom.

Sex Crimes Squad
The Sex Crimes Squad was established to ensure provision of a specialist sexual assault response to support Local Area Commands across NSW.

It is acknowledged that the roles and functions of this Squad are closely aligned with JIRS. As such, this will entail a close and ongoing working relationship between the two Squads.

Fraud and Cybercrime Squad
The Fraud Squad leads and drives the NSW Police Force response to Fraud, Computer Crime, Assets Confiscation and Identity Crime. This is achieved through the development of strategic policy, intelligence products, best practice and provision of specialist investigative services across this crime spectrum.

Underlined whatever stood out to me as interesting, which has taken me back to the idea of extortion. Would they really have a campaign or would police risk provoking a perp through the media in anyway if they thought WT was alive and in the hands of an extortionist? Is it the reason they have pushed the idea that WT is alive, is there reason to hope? I honestly don't know what outcome to hope for, for WT at this stage with so much time passed. MOO

 

[Angeline]

Hi all, I haven't posted in a while but still follow William's case.

With the news of George Pell's charges today it made me wonder whether William's case ties into the Royal Commission.

It could explain the silence, almost as though the police are waiting for something, like they're taking down something huge.

I can't quite put my finger on how it ties in, but perhaps someone involved has been protected? IIRC one of the POIs was moved around various churches. Was it the pianist?

 

[Eloise]

I don't know how WT could tie in. The victims of pedophile priests were usually well known to their predators and abusers, were a lot older than 3, were never abducted or kidnapped but instead sent back to their families after every instance of abuse with the knowledge that they were the sinners if they told anyone. WT is a toddler abducted from a home and never seen again years later, it just doesn't fit.

That predators, pedophiles and child rapists are protected at the highest levels is true, and sickening. I think the higher up the social ladder an abuser is, the more likely they'll be protected. I think if WT's abductor is a poor nobody, then nobody will be interested in protecting them.

 

[Angeline]

Yeah, the circumstances of his disappearance don't fit with church abuse.

I do think William was taken "for" someone (to be delivered to someone.) Maybe the POIs that have been named so far are only minor players.

 

[stormyseas]

Hi all, I haven't posted in a while but still follow William's case.

With the news of George Pell's charges today it made me wonder whether William's case ties into the Royal Commission.

It could explain the silence, almost as though the police are waiting for something, like they're taking down something huge.

I can't quite put my finger on how it ties in, but perhaps someone involved has been protected? IIRC one of the POIs was moved around various churches. Was it the pianist?

I think it is very possible that Wiiliam's case may be linked to the Royal Commission. Just the fact that Pell was located in and near Ballarat at the same time as BS's historical child sexual abuse charges is another amazing 'coincidence.' Also the fact that the SANO Task Force (established to investigate historical and new allegations arising from the Royal Commission) is involved in the prosecution of BS...

 

[Eloise]

Yeah, the circumstances of his disappearance don't fit with church abuse.

I do think William was taken "for" someone (to be delivered to someone.) Maybe the POIs that have been named so far are only minor players.

Oh 100%. IF it was BS that took him, I believe it was not for himself.

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[suspicious]

Oh 100%. IF it was BS that took him, I believe it was not for himself.

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So do you think he is alive?


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[Angeline]

I think it is very possible that Wiiliam's case may be linked to the Royal Commission. Just the fact that Pell was located in and near Ballarat at the same time as BS's historical child sexual abuse charges is another amazing 'coincidence.' Also the fact that the SANO Task Force (established to investigate historical and new allegations arising from the Royal Commission) is involved in the prosecution of BS...

Ah yes, the Ballarat thing got my attention too... and very early on in the WT case there was a reporter who said something about WT's parents being very Christian. I took it to mean that they regularly visted church? It could be that some sicko had his eye on William... through no fault of his parents.

 

[gregjrichards]

It is a tragedy a $1 million dollar reward has been offered and there appears to be no major developments. I'm praying for a miracle and a breakthrough before the third anniversary of William's disappearance.

 

[SouthAussie]

It is a tragedy a $1 million dollar reward has been offered and there appears to be no major developments. I'm praying for a miracle and a breakthrough before the third anniversary of William's disappearance.

Unfortunately, I think that if an enabling wife holds the key to unlocking this mystery, a million dollar reward is not going to achieve anything.

If it was a lowlife pedo scumdog who had the answers, a million dollars would be much more of an enticement ... allow them to start again, anywhere, in relatively safe security.

But for an enabling wife to potentially break up the family, send her crutch of a husband to prison, perhaps live out the rest of her years all alone, bear the shame of defending a creepy pedo, question the possible goings-on with her own grandchildren in the house, admit that she made a huge mistake. Will a million dollars overcome all of those psychological barriers?

 

[Warshawski]

Ah yes, the Ballarat thing got my attention too... and very early on in the WT case there was a reporter who said something about WT's parents being very Christian. I took it to mean that they regularly visted church? It could be that some sicko had his eye on William... through no fault of his parents.

Hi Ange & Stormy. Ballarat always catches my attention in relation to these issues. What ever made it be the 'hive' for child predators, IMO it certainly seems to have been inhabited by 'those of the cloth' with alterior motives, and sadly so many of its children bear the awful scars of their unforgivable abuse.

Consider Ridsdale
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/g...-more-childabuse-charges-20170413-gvkdjr.html

Supported no less by George Pell! And he had his explanation ..

I dont suggest Pell has any knowledge of William, at 76 years of age I think he is well past organising this. IMO though, he does need to get over his belief that 'turning a blind eye' excuses one from any degree if involvement. ...

And it is a sad fact that the abused often carry on to be the abusers.

So it's very plausible that there is a continuing 'group' in the area, and that perhaps William's legacy may be in bringing them to justice.

Wherever this little boy is, may God Bless & care for him, and all those who love him.

 

[Warshawski]

Unfortunately, I think that if an enabling wife holds the key to unlocking this mystery, a million dollar reward is not going to achieve anything.

If it was a lowlife pedo scumdog who had the answers, a million dollars would be much more of an enticement ... allow them to start again, anywhere, in relatively safe security.

But for an enabling wife to potentially break up the family, send her crutch of a husband to prison, perhaps live out the rest of her years all alone, bear the shame of defending a creepy pedo, question the possible goings-on with her own grandchildren in the house, admit that she made a huge mistake. Will a million dollars overcome all of those psychological barriers?

I'm not about to point any fingers, as this is such a complex situation & I really don't have the facts in order to do so.

However, from a personal perspective, if faced with the scenario you have painted SA, I reckon $1,000,000 would do me pretty well in relocating to a new & more wholesome environment, where I could happily look in the mirror, without being haunted by the shadow over my shoulder & the question marked in my soul.

i guess it's these scenarios that caste the great Aussie mateship as a curse!!

I cannot for one minute believe that there ISN'T SOMEONE who has a question, a doubt, something they saw or heard, something that seemed a bit strange, or something that seemed outright weird!

These are the people who need to come forward; the people who think what they saw doesn't matter or doesn't count or can't be connected. .... Guess what they may be, and they may get you $1,000,000, not to mention a huge conscious benefit for helping in finding this little boy.

Where is that woman on the side of the road, where is the Truckie or whoever saw her; where is the man going thru town asking for directions, where are some answers ... I can't imagine how I would be up this was my little boy ..

 

[Angeline]

So it's very plausible that there is a continuing 'group' in the area, and that perhaps William's legacy may be in bringing them to justice.

Wherever this little boy is, may God Bless & care for him, and all those who love him.

Yes, perhaps police know what happened to William but are waiting for enough evidence to take the entire ring down, not just those involved with his disappearance.

If this is the case, then I don't think he is alive. The police could just be putting on a show when they follow up on sightings. It sounds really awful but they would want the perps to believe that police are bumbling along without a clue. Heck, there have been times when I believed it.

 

[frogwell]

Roberto de Heredia, Sydney's accused parcel bomber, facing retrial after jury discharged

As an aside, I was listening to how the accused in the above case was facing a retrial. It was reported that he will face court next week for a mention. It put me in mind of BS trial and wondering why his name kept coming up in court lists for mention whilst he is on trial. Could it be possible, he has had a trial with a hung jury in NSW and the mentions were before a retrial?

I also keep wondering if BS had been a church goer and of what denomination in Victoria or if he had done some work for any institutions, even repairs etc. MOO

 

[SouthAussie]

I personally think this is a lone-perpetrator opportunistic crime. Which is why it is so difficult for the police to gather enough conclusive evidence to bring this matter to trial. Only one person (and the police) for sure knows what he did. Only one person knows where William is, and he has not revealed his crime to anyone because it went too far. And he has managed to slip the noose .... for quite a while.

I believe Gary Jubelin is spot on in his calculations, his gut instinct, his experience and knowledge.
The pressure he has applied, and continues to apply, to that person is done according to plan.

The social media poor-me/poor-him battalion has not wavered my opinion one little bit.

And I think one person can conclusively break the perp's alibi, but is refusing to do so for her own personal benefit ... and his. Due to her own misguided perceptions. The words he has told her, that she so desperately wants to believe.

Yes, a pedo sweep is being done in that area, perhaps due to the things they have unearthed while persuing the perpetrator. And about time, too. But it does not detract from who that perpetrator is. I just hope he doesn't go to his grave carrying his secret with him.

All IMO JMO MOO

 

[Angeline]

What I can't understand is if it was a lone perpetrator (and opportunistic), why were there several POIs, and allegedly 2 cars at the scene?

I dunno. I think police want it to look like they're barking up the wrong tree.

 

[SouthAussie]

What I can't understand is if it was a lone perpetrator (and opportunistic), why were there several POIs, and allegedly 2 cars at the scene?

I dunno. I think police want it to look like they're barking up the wrong tree.

I don't know that there were several POIs at the scene. I think we have been randomly guessing at that, trying to make the cars there fit with cars that belong to POIs. They were pretty generic description cars imo. And I personally think they were visitors to the creepy house across the street.

I think the police released the info about the cars because they'd like the lone perp to think that there may have been a witness or two at the scene. Just not anyone who actually saw William be lifted into a van. But perhaps someone who could remember a certain van on that street at around that time.

 

[Warshawski]

Yes, perhaps police know what happened to William but are waiting for enough evidence to take the entire ring down, not just those involved with his disappearance.

If this is the case, then I don't think he is alive. The police could just be putting on a show when they follow up on sightings. It sounds really awful but they would want the perps to believe that police are bumbling along without a clue. Heck, there have been times when I believed it.

its so confronting, so .so.. all the sentiments & emotions engaged .. Everyone is entitled to a legacy and I just want William's to be publicly acknowledged.

I reckon he is about bringing down the evil the permeates our society, may take some time, but I believe in the outcome. FOR ALL THE MEMBERS of the POLICING FORCES engaged here,

 

[Warshawski]

I personally think this is a lone-perpetrator opportunistic crime. Which is why it is so difficult for the police to gather enough conclusive evidence to bring this matter to trial. Only one person (and the police) for sure knows what he did. Only one person knows where William is, and he has not revealed his crime to anyone because it went too far. And he has managed to slip the noose .... for quite a while.

I believe Gary Jubelin is spot on in his calculations, his gut instinct, his experience and knowledge.
The pressure he has applied, and continues to apply, to that person is done according to plan.

The social media poor-me/poor-him battalion has not wavered my opinion one little bit.

And I think one person can conclusively break the perp's alibi, but is refusing to do so for her own personal benefit ... and his. Due to her own misguided perceptions. The words he has told her, that she so desperately wants to believe.

Yes, a pedo sweep is being done in that area, perhaps due to the things they have unearthed while persuing the perpetrator. And about time, too. But it does not detract from who that perpetrator is. I just hope he doesn't go to his grave carrying his secret with him.

All IMO JMO MOO

i hear what you are saying SA, and I thank you, as I am sure also do the badged gleaners of 'Intel'. ... I just wish I had more to offer in regards to the whereabouts of this little boy.

I do agree with your suggestion that, as I read it, it only takes one misplaced brick to bring it all crumbling down ... Believe me, no Good has ever come from Evil, it may take its time but that Earned will Delivered (I learnt that early at the hands of my darling now departed Dad)

I have no doubt that William's legacy will bring about change, as has Daniel's. as I see it, these boys had a reason for their time on earth, and we are privileged as a society to benefit from their lessons.

I am not being flippant in regards to the emotions of those who bore & nutured them. .. I know the loss of a child, which I still barely understand & cope with, so I can't imagine the grief that must be felt in these bizarre & unknown circumstances.... I just want to acknowledge that IMO every conceived life, long or short, plays a significant part in our society .. And sometimes the Short time has the bigger impact.

 

[sosocurious]

Wonder if BS made his appointment today.
Will we hear anything?:waiting:
https://dailylists.magistratesvic.com.au/EFAS/CaseCRI?CaseID=88201335