Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #63

[Coldpizza]

William Tyrrell: ‘One million reasons’ to come forward over toddler’s abduction
7:29pm September 12, 2016

A $1 million reward, the largest in New South Wales history, has been announced for information that leads to the arrest of the person who abducted missing toddler William Tyrrell, or for the boy’s safe return or recovery.

William, then aged three, went missing from the backyard of his grandmother’s home in Kendall, on the state's mid-north coast, on September 12, 2014.

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"You’re in a much better position if you come to us than if we come to you."

Det. Insp. Jubelin also said the investigation was "a long way" from going to a coronial inquest, and that police did not believe William's family were involved.

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS WRITTEN BELOW. YOU MUST FOLLOW WHAT IS OUTLINED OR YOU WILL BE TIMED OUT OR BANNED!!!!

Thanks to DrSleuth for your help in writing up the information needed for the discussion.

Here is what we can and cannot discuss.

No identifying the biological family, the foster family or any associates ( ie siblings, etc ) or their addresses, places of employment or childcare, etc

They can be identified as bio mother etc & female foster carer etc

At the inquest, they are known as biological mother & father. Foster family are known as FFC ( female foster carer ) MFC ( male foster carer ) FFGM ( female foster grandmother ) etc
REMEMBER THE ABOVE PEOPLE CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED USING THEIR INITIALS.

Prior to the coronial inquest, the bio families could be identified, but it was overturned by the coroner for the inquest.

I am very sorry it took me so long to open this thread back up. Please keep in mind we are short handed so if this thread starts to get out of control with alerts we will have to close it again.
Please do not hesitate to alert but make sure the alert is truly needed. We have experienced a lot of tit for tat alerts and that makes me foam at the mouth, grow hair on my hands and my teeth turn into fangs. In other words please be sure when you post you are posting within our terms of service.

Thank you,
Tricia

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[Tricia]

I will keep posting the information as soon as we are certain everyone understands who they cannot identify. One more time:
No identifying the biological family, the foster family or any associates ( ie siblings, etc ) or their addresses, places of employment or childcare, etc

They can be identified as bio mother etc & female foster carer etc

At the inquest, they are known as biological mother & father. Foster family are known as FFC ( female foster carer ) MFC ( male foster carer ) FFGM ( female foster grandmother ) etc
REMEMBER THE ABOVE PEOPLE CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED USING THEIR INITIALS.

 

[Sillybilly]

So, does that mean it's OK to discuss any other books on the subject?

There is no blanket approval. Please contact a Mod or Admin with the name of the book and the author and we will make a decision.

Chumley's book "Searching for Spiderman" is not approved.

Gary Jubelin's book and Caroline Overington's book are the only two that are approved for discussion at this time.

I think they should be okay - as one is a journo and one is an ex-lead detective on the case - but I will alert on my post and see if a mod can clarify how we should reference. Whether that be the book and page number, or a screenshot of the specific excerpt from the page of one of the allowable books.

IIRC stormbird was putting up screenshots when she spoke of particular passages from Overington's book.

Both books can be discussed.

Always give credit to the author. Book title, page # and paraphrasing or brief quotes are allowed.

Screenshots and more extensive quoting requires approval of the author (the copyright holder).

Do not try to get more content in by breaking it up into multiple posts.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Please post respectfully. Members are all here for the same reason and there is absolutely no reason for anyone to be snarky, unkind or disrespectful. If someone else is rude, do not respond. Just Report the post and let moderators review it.

Also, when stating information as fact, an approved link must be provided to substantiate the fact. If it's been linked recently, it's no big deal, but if it is older information or information not known to other members, they are entitled to ask for a link and one must be provided.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Have just spoken with Tricia and she agrees that members can discuss the recent events surrounding the issuing of the AVO and the foster parents as potential POIs (which y'all have been doing anyway, right?)

While WS policy is that we are victim friendly, and this extends to family member, the policy has to be examined as to how it relates to specific discussions and new information as it comes to light. This is a thread specific exception that is being made based on MSM, obvious action and ongoing investigation by Australian law enforcement.

Discuss matters factually and speculate reasonably but without trashing these people or making direct accusations. Members who do so will be banned from the thread.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This case has its very own set of very unique circumstances that we are having to work around and we know it is difficult for our members.

Of course we have William's case, but we also have the complicating factors of the foster situation, a living minor child, a coronial inquest that prevents publication of names, an AVO not known 100% to be immediately connected to William's case.

Taking all the above into consideration, we can not allow sleuthing of individuals who have not been publicly named.

Discussing what is in MSM is fine, but actual sleuthing of unnamed persons and posting about their background, their personal information or social media is not allowed.

Thanks to everyone here for trying to post accordingly through all this murkiness.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Welcome to Thread #63:

Personalizing, bickering, and trolling of fellow posters continues to be an issue. If you have a concern with a post, do not respond to it. Simply report it and a member of the team will review it.

Please note that we are a small volunteer team behind the curtain. We are not actively reading each post as it hits the board. It is up to members to make us aware of violations.

Lastly, LINKS are required for statements of fact. If you can’t find the link, do not post your comment until you have located the link to accompany your statement of fact.

Again, Welcome to Thread #63…..Please continue here..

Tiff

 

[PrimeSuspect]

@Tench

I did a google image search for “child roaring”. Almost all the children seem to have their eyes levelled at the camera.

The roaring-upward gaze reflex reported by some here may not lead us closer to the truth.

If a photographer is taking a pic for commercial reasons, or if the fm asked WT to repeat the roar a few times, I'm sure she could've got the right shot but a natural shot, will produce the reflex to look upwards while roaring. jmo

 

[Gotta have Faith]

William Tyrrell: Body finding expert leads detectives to a NEW site in Kendall | Daily Mail Online
Body finding expert leads detectives to a NEW site in the William Tyrrell search where police bag a mysterious object and shoo reporters away

The body finding expert who helped to find Daniel Morcombe eight years after he was murdered has led detectives searching for William Tyrrell to an entirely new site

An hour into Tuesday's dig, Professor Jon Olley directed a select team of officers across the street from the usual search zone at Batar Creek Rd, Kendall, NSW.

The search for little William intensified late-morning when they shooed reporters away from their main dig site as they appeared to locate a heavy object buried at the site.

 

[Gotta have Faith]

William Tyrrell’s foster parents to face court over assault charge relating to a different child

William Tyrrell’s foster parents are scheduled to appear in court today on charges over the alleged assault of a child — not William — on Sydney’s upper north shore.

The foster mother and foster father each face one count of common assault, alleged to have occurred at a home on Sydney’s upper north shore this year.

They are scheduled to face a magistrate in Hornsby Local Court on Tuesday.

 

[katydid23]

Any news yet on today's court hearing?

I am firmly on the fence until I hear more about this allegation. If the foster daughter comes forth to say that her foster parents are cruel and abusive and she thinks they are involved in her brothers disappearance, then I will probably fall face first from the fence.

 

[The gavel]

Sorry to ask again - copied from past thread.

Does anyone know for certain what colour the FMs hair was on the day of William's disappearance?

 

[Gotta have Faith]

Any news yet on today's court hearing?

I am firmly on the fence until I hear more about this allegation. If the foster daughter comes forth to say that her foster parents are cruel and abusive and she thinks they are involved in her brothers disappearance, then I will probably fall face first from the fence.

Could a neighbour have raised the alarm? Allegedly it happened at a North Sydney home ?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Are people listening to this? William Tyrrell update It's a WT update of I Catch Killers .. GJ just said the FM chose to testify FOR GJ at his trial .. she was concerned that the WT investigation would go to Cold Case without GJ on the team.

How on earth would she have anything to say in regards to internal police matters?

Whether she has done this or not, IMO she has an ability to place herself into a position of influence, even with police investigating a case where she was the last person to see a missing child, this is completely inappropriate.

 

[Jaded325594]

Curious, apologies if this has been discussed previously. BS had grandchildren in his care - does anyone know if this was an informal family arrangement VS FACS involvement. Article seems to indicate children were removed by FACS from mum due to DV. If thats the case, it seems odd that his identity was not surpressed like William's foster family.

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

 

[katydid23]

Sorry to ask again - copied from past thread.

Does anyone know for certain what colour the FMs hair was on the day of William's disappearance?

I don't think she had a messy blonde bun on top of her head and looked plump. I don't think that would describe her appearance.

 

[JayWill]

Are people listening to this? William Tyrrell update It's a WT update of I Catch Killers .. GT just said the FM chose to testify FOR GJ at his trial .. she was concerned that the WT investigation would go to Cold Case without GJ on the team.

How on earth would she have anything to say in regards to internal police matters?

Because she likes to control. This is just more evidence that he was too close to the FF.

 

[organised_chaos]

Sorry to ask again - copied from past thread.

Does anyone know for certain what colour the FMs hair was on the day of William's disappearance?

I just watched the McDonalds footage again, and it is hard to tell as the family have black squares over their faces. There is one pic though that looks like it is dark coloured (perhaps, possibly, JMO MOO IMO). But it is quite hard to tell. Have a look at 48 secs...

Chilling new images of William Tyrrell with his foster family released

 

[katydid23]

Are people listening to this? William Tyrrell update It's a WT update of I Catch Killers .. GT just said the FM chose to testify FOR GJ at his trial .. she was concerned that the WT investigation would go to Cold Case without GJ on the team.

How on earth would she have anything to say in regards to internal police matters?

Whether she has done this or not, IMO she has an ability to place herself in a position of influence, this is completely inappropriate.

I think she probably had a lot of info about what they were doing in terms of searches, etc. Don't most investigators keep the parents up to date?

 

[Ozgal]

Sorry to ask again - copied from past thread.

Does anyone know for certain what colour the FMs hair was on the day of William's disappearance?

Probably the same colour she had in her Police walk thru video 6 days after WT went missing