Identified! AZ - Mohave Co, White Hills Rd, Hwy 93, HispFem 18-23, UP85993, Dbl-Pierced Ears, scars, Dec'89 - Marina Ramos

[victoriarobinson642]

Added to NAMUS yesterday:
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

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Demographics
Sex - Female
Race / Ethnicity - Hispanic / Latino
Estimated Age Group - Adult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years) - 18-23
Height - 5' 3"(63 inches) , Measured
Weight - 120-125 lbs, Estimated

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Circumstances
Type - Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found - December 12, 1989
NamUs Case Created - November 2, 2021

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Location Found Map
Location - Mohave County, Arizona
County - Mohave County
Found On Tribal Land - No
Circumstances of Recovery - Tourists looking for a ghost town found the decedent in a wash off White Hills Road, Highway 93 in Mohave County, Arizona on 12/12/1989.

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Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains--
Condition of Remains - Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

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Physical Description
Hair Color - Black
Head Hair Description - Shoulder length
Eye Color - Brown

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Distinctive Physical Features

Piercing - Double pierced ears
Scar/mark
- Round scar on the left shin
- "J" shaped scar on right shin
- 1 1/4 inch scar just below the right kneecap
- Round scar on left bicep
- Inverted "L" shaped scar on forehead

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[victoriarobinson642]

- Round scar on left bicep
Sounds like it could be a smallpox vaccination scar, though I think she would've been right around the cutoff point.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Her NAMUS was updated today, though nothing has visibly changed.

 

[HopeRains]

Newspapers.com, Arizona Republic 14 Dec 89, pg 19

 

[HmmMysterious]

Here's an interesting candidate: Wendy Abrams-Nishikai

 

[HmmMysterious]

Sorry, I wasn't done. Wendy Abrams-Nishikai seems plausible.

She was white while JD was Hispanic.
She was 21 years old.
5'2, 120 lbs which makes her only an inch shorter than JD
Black hair, brown eyes
Last seen: October 31, 1989

Nishikai was a student at UC Berkeley in Berkeley, California. She disappeared on Halloween night leaving behind a 2 year old daughter. No one knows if she disappeared voluntarily or met with foul play. This blog contains unverified comments by purported family members claiming that Wendy was killed by her ex. Her husband filed for divorce in 1993.

 

[iulia]

The NamUs page for this lady has been removed.

 

[HmmMysterious]

The NamUs page for this lady has been removed.

Wendy Abrams Nishikai's page is still up. Maybe it wasn't her.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

The NamUs page for this lady has been removed.

Hopeful for an identification.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article272515733.html

Body found decades ago in Arizona identified as missing California mom, cops say

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article272515733.html#storylink=cpy

Marina Ramos, 28, was last seen in Bakersfield, California, with her 1-year-old and infant daughters 34 years ago. They were with a man “known only as ‘Fernando,’” the Mohave County Sheriff’s Office said in a Feb. 14 news release posted on Facebook.
“The four were seen driving away in his black SUV, headed for Ontario, California, where ‘Fernando’ lived,” deputies said.

Decades later, the sheriff’s office said it has identified a body found in Arizona in December 1989 as Ramos. Her daughters, however, are still missing, deputies said.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article272515733.html#storylink=cpy

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Rest in peace, Marina Ramos.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

The agency noted that since Ramos' August 1989 disappearance, her two daughters, Elizabeth Lisa Ramos, then 14 months and now possibly 34 years old, and Jasmin Maria Ramos, then 2 months and now possibly 33, have also been missing.

Confirming the status of Ramos' daughters contributed to the urgency in resolving this case, Lori Miller, an investigator with the Mohave County Sheriff's Office, told The Arizona Republic in an interview on Tuesday.

"The family would like to know what happened to those two little girls," Miller said. "The hope is that they were just raised by somebody else, that they are still alive and thriving somewhere."
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Arizona cold case: A woman's remains ID'd, but police still seek her missing kids and person of interest

Marina Ramos, 28, has been ID'd as a stabbing fatality found in Arizona in 1989; her daughters remain missing. Police seek a person of interest.

www.usatoday.com

 

[MadMcGoo]

How incredibly sad. I hope they’re able to find Jasmin and Elizabeth.

Rest peacefully now Marina.

 

[Melt71]

Really sad - do we have MP pages for Elizabeth and Jasmine @MadMcGoo or other mods (sorry I'm swamped at work - on break) and can't do it right now.

 

[ClaireNC]

Here’s the thread for her two daughters. CA - CA - Elizabeth Lisa Ramos, 14 months, and Jasmin Maria Ramos, 2 months, Bakersfield, August '89
I hope they loaded Marina’s DNA into GEDmatch and the other genealogy sites.

 

[DSCrime]

This is such a sad outcome. Really hope that her 2 daughters are found safe.
This feels like the kind of case that needs a lot of media exposure to jog people's memories.

 

[iamshadow21]

Sleep well, Marina.

Elizabeth and Jasmin, we're looking for you, sweeties. Holding out hope for another 'Baby Holly' situation for both of you.

 

[walt91]

Elizabeth and Jasmin have been added to NamUs (without photos):

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[CastlesBurning]

UNSOLVED: The murder of Marina Ramos and the search for her two missing daughters

 

[dotr]

rbbm.
May 13, 2023

UNSOLVED: The murder of Marina Ramos and the search for her two missing daughters

The Mohave County Sheriff's Office is pushing for answers in a murder cold case from 1989. They want to find out who killed Marina Ramos and what happened to her two daughters.

www.abc15.com

''MOHAVE COUNTY, AZ — The Mohave County Sheriff's Office is pushing for answers in a murder cold case from 1989.

The victim, a 28-year-old woman, was found stabbed and left naked in the middle of a desert road about 50 miles from Las Vegas and about 40 miles from Kingman, Arizona.''

''Ramos was last seen with a man named Fernando in a Black SUV. Miller told ABC15 Ramos had met the man in a park.''