Burke Ramsey, has no interest in once again answering questions

[Myself]

Okay now time for me to post a comment although this was all so long ago that I may have missed the boat with this one
First thing: if Burke was the killer then what kind of killer was he? Much has been made of his "strange personality" but are we talking juvenile psychopath or someone with a personality disorder? And if he had said personality disorder then why has it not been manifest since then. When you look at people who have committed murder, it doesn't go away, it gets worse. If he were a budding sex offender then where did that go? Logic would suggest he is still offending. An unanswered question when you hold him as perpetrator. What do others think?

The second thing I was going to say is that if he is innocent he is just as much a victim as his sister. Well maybe not really but you get my meaning. If innocent, he watched his family be vilified in a court of public opinion that was perpetuated by the media, and police and DA leaks. So maybe he may feel that his family lost everything over the murder of a sibling which occured in 1996, and then his mother contract cancer again, largely due to stress of being vilified, and died prematurely. So maybe he just doesnt feel like sitting down to tea & crumpets with the local fuzz if you know what I mean?

 

[eileenhawkeye]

It wouldn't surprise me if he does have a bad opinion of the media, whether he's guilty or innocent. Also, Burke was described as being a quiet child, and chances are, he's a quiet adult. He might not feel comfortable being on camera, and he might be worried he'll come across as awkward, which will just confirm people's beliefs that he's the weird brother. I think he has a much different opinion of the media (and what they are capable of) than some ordinary person who wants their 15 minutes of fame. However, I do think if he gave an interview, he would be portrayed as 100% normal, truthful, and innocent.

 

[BOESP]

In my view, Patsy and John sought media attention. Don't get me wrong, I think the talking heads who perform the news then and especially now mostly are not worth listening to. Nevertheless, Patsy seems to have courted the publicity. If Burke is intimidated or tired of the media, he owes a lot of that to his parents. The investigators, on the other hand, want to find his sister's killer.

It recently occurred to me that maybe they were trying to taint the jury pool. After so much publicity, at least during the first few years, it would have been hard to find someone who hadn't formed an opinion. I give the Ramseys and Lin Wood credit. They knew how to work a crowd.

I can't see this case coming to trial. I predict it will fade into the sunset and be a footnote in criminology classes and Internet discussions.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

In my view, Patsy and John sought media attention. Don't get me wrong, I think the talking heads who perform the news then and especially now mostly are not worth listening to. Nevertheless, Patsy seems to have courted the publicity. If Burke is intimidated or tired of the media, he owes a lot of that to his parents. The investigators, on the other hand, want to find his sister's killer.

It recently occurred to me that maybe they were trying to taint the jury pool. After so much publicity, at least during the first few years, it would have been hard to find someone who hadn't formed an opinion. I give the Ramseys and Lin Wood credit. They knew how to work a crowd.

I can't see this case coming to trial. I predict it will fade into the sunset and be a footnote in criminology classes and Internet discussions.

But....they only spoke to the media 3x between December 1996-October 1999, when the grand jury ended. January 1997 CNN, May 1997 Press Conference, and Summer 1998 British Documentary. Did I miss anything? In any other case, if the parents were going months without talking to the press, they would be accused of wanting the case to fade away/be forgotten. If they sought media coverage to taint the jury pool, wouldn't they be on camera every week?

 

[DeeDee249]

Police aren't asking him to sit down for tea and crumpets. They are asking him to help clear up the events of that night, which culminated in the death of his sister. If he is innocent, he (and his lawyer) should WANT to do this.
The fact that he does NOT want to (and his lawyers do not want him to) says more than he ever could. Does it prove he is guilty? No. But it proves he knows things he doesn't want to share with police.

 

[sandover]

It's still hard for me to see a scenario where Burke hit her over the head initially. It just doesn't feel right to me. We have so much evidence of Patsy's impulsiveness and near-psychotic need to control reality... it makes more sense to me to imagine that Burke was asleep when his mom killed JonBenet accidentally in a sudden loss of control, and then both parents staged the crime. But he probably heard things that night...

Anyone remember the drawings Burke did that a tabloid published? I wonder if they're available online anywhere. They're printed in Andrew Hodges's book "Who Will Speak for JonBenet?"

I think there was a lot of manic energy in the house that night when they got back from the party, even if they were tired. Christmas Day and a big trip in the morning! I bet the snack was had around 10 o'clock. The murder around 11 or 12. The staging for the next few hours. Then a brief break before the Ramsey's scripted melodrama began at 5:52 AM...

 

[txsvicki]

I don't think Patsy would have even noticed if dishes were on the table and wouldn't be suprised if the kids had to get their own snacks quite a bit. I hope the new set of detectives keep after Burke and get him to answer many questions about that night and previous days. He also said that Jon Benet walked slowly up the stairs that night but John says he carried her sleeping. Then there's the question of Jon Benet thinking that Santa was going to pay another visit. Burke may know something about that. You'd think that he and John would be doing all possible to try and find out who did it, even secretly getting all sorts of people's dna and having it tested if necessary.

 

[azwriter]

I don't think Patsy would have even noticed if dishes were on the table and wouldn't be suprised if the kids had to get their own snacks quite a bit. I hope the new set of detectives keep after Burke and get him to answer many questions about that night and previous days. He also said that Jon Benet walked slowly up the stairs that night but John says he carried her sleeping. Then there's the question of Jon Benet thinking that Santa was going to pay another visit. Burke may know something about that. You'd think that he and John would be doing all possible to try and find out who did it, even secretly getting all sorts of people's dna and having it tested if necessary.

Hey tsvicki, interesting that you would bring up the second visit from Santa. I've often wondered just where did JonBenet get this idea. Part of me says Burke told her something about Santa coming back Christmas nite. Perhaps it was his way of getting her down to the basement for that secret meeting. She adored Santa so it seems. And I think she would trust what her older brother would tell her. And how about:" psst, keep it a secret from Mom and Dad or Santa won't come JonBenet."
Was he setting her up? I have long held the thought he had been "playing doctor" to use a better term, with his little sister and at one time Patsy caught him. So, he had to make it a secret. He didn't want to be caught again but he wanted to continue what he had started.
Okay, so it's just a thought I have. No proof but something I really can see happening.
jmo

 

[gypsychild]

Hey tsvicki, interesting that you would bring up the second visit from Santa. I've often wondered just where did JonBenet get this idea. Part of me says Burke told her something about Santa coming back Christmas nite. Perhaps it was his way of getting her down to the basement for that secret meeting. She adored Santa so it seems. And I think she would trust what her older brother would tell her. And how about:" psst, keep it a secret from Mom and Dad or Santa won't come JonBenet."
Was he setting her up? I have long held the thought he had been "playing doctor" to use a better term, with his little sister and at one time Patsy caught him. So, he had to make it a secret. He didn't want to be caught again but he wanted to continue what he had started.
Okay, so it's just a thought I have. No proof but something I really can see happening.
jmo

Please correct me if I am wrong - but wasn't the family leaving for Michigan the next morning? If so, was there a second Christmas day with the family scheduled at that place? Could this be the reference to Santa coming again Christmas night?

 

[DeeDee249]

Please correct me if I am wrong - but wasn't the family leaving for Michigan the next morning? If so, was there a second Christmas day with the family scheduled at that place? Could this be the reference to Santa coming again Christmas night?

You are correct, and I have always thought just what you suggested- that she had been told (likely by Patsy) that there were going to be more presents to be had in Charlevoix. They were planning to meet up with JR's 2 older children, as well as a future son-in-law, and I am sure there were more gifts to be exchanged, especially for JB and BR.
A torn note was allegedly found in a wastebasket in JB's room that was supposedly from "Santa" Bill McReynolds. No details about that note were ever released. Bill McReynolds was cleared long ago in this case, having given saliva and writing samples as soon as he was asked. He and his wife are both deceased now.
Much was also made of a Santa suit found in the R home. The Rs admitted owning this suit, and it was worn at some of the Access Graphics Christmas parties. There were some red fibers allegedly from that suit found in the basement window well. It wouldn't be odd to find the fibers- the suit was stored in the basement- but the location is a bit odd, if the report is factual.

 

[Leomoon80]

The NBC 2 night Murder of Jon Benet Ramsey just finished up last night.

Well? I guess what impressed me the most about the cold case look by experts in behavioral sciences, both Scotland Yard on the case and the FBI (retired behavioral science experts), as well as Dr. Lee (questionable because of OJ of course), a Dr. Werner Spitz appears on the new cold case "team", for me was the bringing up of this psychological term used to describe one of the Ramseys.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Scatalogical

They found originially, not only a piece of small fecal matter in her bed, but Feces smeared on her Christmas Candy a small box of chocolate

They (the show's production) said that the Ramsey housekeeper said that B had once smeared feces all over the bathroom wall.

Isn't this what animals will do, devoid of emotion as the other mammals often are, to spoil their lair or their set space?

There was much more of course on this excellently produced show. Maybe it will be on Youtube, (parts 1 & 2) The final part well worth it.,imo. The part prior, dispelled the intruder theory rather quickly. Overwhelming consensus, it was an inside job. It took the recreation scene with the pretend ransom note writer, 21 minutes to write that 4 page note. No hurry here.

And very important too (imo) is that this new cold case team of experts (perhaps 10 of them in all?) decided once and for all, it was not a stun gun afterall making those marks on Jon Benet and they found what they consider to be scientifically accurate, that it was from a toy inside the home. Ugh!

 

[Leomoon80]

Some who didn't fare well on this special presentation, would have to be (in my opinion), both of the Boulder District Attorneys, Alex Hunter and then his predecessor (especially her official exoneration letter) . Nope, they didn't fare well, nor did Lou Smith for accuracy. (the cobweb, stun gun theory)

But with the admittance, its been 20 years now nothing legal is expected to occur that has not already.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/case-jonbenet-ramsey-premiere-multiple-930651

I had the wrong station mentioned, it was actually the one done by CBS that just concluded, a 2 night special seen here in part:

http://www.refinery29.com/2016/09/123355/jon-benet-ramsey-cbs-new-dna-evidence

It has been nearly 20 years since 6-year-old JonBenét Ramsey was found murdered in her Boulder, Colo., home, and now a new team of investigators is attempting to shine light on the case that captured the nation.

Sunday night was the first episode of a two-part special, The Case of: JonBenet Ramsey, on CBS.

During the thorough re-examination, retired FBI profiler Jim Clemente and former Scotland Yard criminal behavior expert Laura Richards worked with other law enforcement specialists to determine just what happened during Christmas 1996.

 

[ShadyLadySleuth]

Since there has been no "confession" from any of the Ramsey's, I am hoping all the current TV attention will shake something loose with somebody who can shed light on this case. Hopefully enough pressure will work on the mind of the guilty party causing them to say or do something suspicious. So I believe all the current media coverage is good and it may cause the guilty party to be very uncomfortable, and scared. They may be very tired of carrying this secret so long. It must be a terrible burden. Always watching what you say and to whom.

 

[TeaTime]

Please correct me if I am wrong - but wasn't the family leaving for Michigan the next morning? If so, was there a second Christmas day with the family scheduled at that place? Could this be the reference to Santa coming again Christmas night?

I have thought that the "Santa 'special visit' after Christmas was reference to the night of 12/26, in Charlevoix, with all the kids together but never could have that thought mesh with the Rs being so 'clueless' as to what JBR could possibly have meant when she told Mrs. McReynolds this on 12/23 and suspicious of that conversation to the point of naming McReynolds as a suspect and telling LE that JBR would eat pineapple from Santa and go with him downstairs to the basement. But, maybe they were that devious, saw an opportunity to deflect the investigation onto "Santa", and went with it - knowing full well the special visit was to be in Charlevoix with their big sister and brother. I put nothing past them now. Nothing. Not after finding out that Burke had HiTech boots, was heard by the 911 operator, and admittedly, was awake all morning but the Rs lied their heads off about all of it and JR and LW still lie about it. UGH!

 

[ShadyLadySleuth]

I learned from the recent CBS investigation that BR had shown previous aggression towards JBR. First, he had purposely hit her with a golf club on her face. I believe it was said it left a small scar. Secondly, he had smeared feces on a wall, left a "ball" shaped piece of feces in JBR's bed, and had put some feces on some of her Christmas candy. I find that very disturbing behavior from a brother towards his sister. It could show anger, jealousy, revenge perhaps. It sounds very passive-aggressive to me. He does it in secret and let's her or Mom find it

 

[Leomoon80]

Now, he threatens to sue once again:

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...t-ramsey-family-threatens-sue-cbs-documentary

 

[Ambitioned]

Now, he threatens to sue once again:

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-...t-ramsey-family-threatens-sue-cbs-documentary

I look forward to the depositions.

 

[Frigga]

I look forward to the depositions.

Boy, oh boy- me too. Bring it on L Lin Wood- cannot wait for Burke to be deposed. I. Cannot. Wait.

The irony of Dr Phils show is priceless. My neighbor watches him religiously and adores him. She told me she thinks something is seriously wrong with Burke- then and now and she now believes (after years and years of believing in the intruder) that Burke killed her- get this- ON PURPOSE.

Whoa- L Lin Wood seriously misread the way Burke would be perceived or else his highly narcissistic father did. Either way, I'm SO grateful.

Justice for Jonbenet- even if it is only in the court of public opinion. At this point- that's good enough for me.

God bless Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt, Fleet White and Jim Kolar- they tried their absolute best for that sweet baby girl- Trisha too!

 

[BBB167893]

I look forward to the depositions.

I'm betting John, Burke and Wood are NOT looking forward to them.

I knew Wood was a slimebag. I didn't think he was stupid.

 

[BBB167893]

Boy, oh boy- me too. Bring it on L Lin Wood- cannot wait for Burke to be deposed. I. Cannot. Wait.

The irony of Dr Phils show is priceless. My neighbor watches him religiously and adores him. She told me she thinks something is seriously wrong with Burke- then and now and she now believes (after years and years of believing in the intruder) that Burke killed her- get this- ON PURPOSE.

Whoa- L Lin Wood seriously misread the way Burke would be perceived or else his highly narcissistic father did. Either way, I'm SO grateful.

Justice for Jonbenet- even if it is only in the court of public opinion. At this point- that's good enough for me.

God bless Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt, Fleet White and Jim Kolar- they tried their absolute best for that sweet baby girl- Tricia too!

You could name a LOT of names, Frigga.

This one blew up in the Ramsey's faces like the Hindenburg. And CBS is ready to defend.