Found Deceased CA - Alycia Yeoman, 20, Gridley, 30 March 2017 #2

[ann1989]

Interesting post. I'm not convinced of MLs innocence yet and don't want to accuse him without enough evidence. He is a person of interest though imo. Especially because having the phone ping at 4AM across the street from your house is suspicious. In your post you mention a possible 3rd person so this got me thinking a bit. Yeah, ML wasn't the only one there at his house that night. Maybe he didn't do anything to AY, but maybe one of his friends had a relationship with AY, maybe a married friend. He could be trying to cover for a bro. And if Aly was talking to him about a crush, it would make sense that she'd be talking to him about one of his friends. This is only if we're gonna believe MLs story about why he was with AY.

I don't believe that AY drove herself to the orchard. The only possibility that someone at ML's house is not involved is that she got taken just shortly after leaving his house. Maybe a gas station stop or something. Unlikely but very possible. But she had work at 5 Am in the morning and I don't think she was going to go party at a levee at 11PM so I don't believe those theories. I def suspect foul play.

Also after reading some of this thread, is it possible the perp had already dumped Aly's body in the river near the boat launch area and was just trying to get rid of the truck when it got stuck in the orchard? Maybe he didn't want to drive the truck off right at the launch. Maybe he was looking for a more remote or deeper part of the river to dump the truck. I was always thinking it was dump the truck first, then the body, but maybe not. All jmho.

Yeah dump body then truck i think. Body is too hard to carry frm pics that were posted earlier in thread too long off a walk

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[ann1989]

Actually Leo Almonte is sounding more and more plausible as the days go on. What if he was waiting around the corner from MLs house & stopped Aly. Maybe he was an Ex and also now a stalker (as according to her family). Then he drove her out there and carried all it out. He was there the day her phone randomly wound up and in an interview he also stated how aly would do whatever she wanted...(sounds like he was trying to be controlling and it wasn't working)

Agree!! And if he knew where she was to set up ml since he's jealous dump phone right there

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[Fascinated1]

Yeah dump body then truck i think. Body is too hard to carry frm pics that were posted earlier in thread too long off a walk

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Or body in second vehicle. Person in ally's truck just dumped truck and walked to meet second vehicle somewhere by boat launch or other location away from camera that recorded Alys truck.

 

[AnnoCatuli]

Agree!! And if he knew where she was to set up ml since he's jealous dump phone right there

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I doubt this theory. More plausible that a third person we are unaware was involved based on posts from the family. They have put a ton of focus on ML and his house that night. They have mentioned her ex in the past but simplying mentioning him...they have been mum about him with little to no focus or pressure out on him. He would have had to do a lot in a little amount of time and still doesn't explain the phone ping. I also felt like he would had to been very smart and planned with little to no mistakes or evidence left behind. Again...with the little time frame...just doesnt fit to me. Just my thinking though.

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[Niner]

Hey all,

The phone was pinged 10 miles from where her truck and the levee her phone was found on were....her phone pinged across the street from the last place she was seen alive, and that is REALLY hard to explain away imo.

That^^ is what makes me think something happened at the house party.

If she stopped using her cell at 9:30, then I don't believe she left on her own power, alone at 10:40ish. I strongly believe she would have texted or communicated with someone at the time she was leaving if she was meeting up with someone at that time. I don't believe she would have driven up into that levee road without being in contact with someone right before that time.

I think something bad and unexpected happened around 9:30ish, and everyone scrambled to cover it up from then on.

I have to agree with you here! Isn't this "about" the time ML said he drove his daughter (with Aly in the car) to her mother's house? 30 to 45 minutes before Aly left the house? Something is "fishy" about that!


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feel like perhaps it was either an accident and she was alone for some reason, or someone with her and she had an accident of some sort and they grew scared and are trying to cover it up. The only problem with that theory is there were footprints around her truck, so if someone was there, why did the prints just vanish? Someone would have left signs of leaving the area whether by foot or vehicle?

The footprints weren't "all around her truck", only footprints leading "away" from her truck, but unfortunately, LE doesn't "which way" the footprints went!! Toward the river? or towards the levee?? Sure wish we knew that!

Also, I'm pretty sure the LE got fingerprints off the truck....

I think I'm in the minority on this but I believe the footprints were consistent with Aly. I've started looking back to earlier articles and videos from right after her truck was found. The authorities explicitly stated, more than once after finding the truck, that there was no evidence to indicate foul play. I think it would absolutely indicate foul play if someone else were to have driven her truck into an orchard the night she disappeared. Also they said there was a lot of mud in the cab as if someone were repeatedly getting out of and into the cab. If someone were ditching the truck and got stuck I don't think they would bother to get out and back in repeatedly because they wanted to ditch it a bit further. I think Aly was driving, but I don't know why she drove there or if anyone else was involved. JMO.

Maybe.... whomever it was, was looking for the phone? checking the truck again and again, and outside around it?? Just a thought!

That is Aly's ex and ML's Nephew!!

Has that been confirmed?? ML's nephew?? TIA!

 

[Fascinated1]

Do we know if there was a confirmed sighting of her back at the house after taking the daughter? If 930 is last time phone used either 1) maybe she accidentally left phone at house when they went to drop off daughter and something happened on that ride and she never actually made it back to house (but truck was still there so it was dumped by where body was dumped) or 2) maybe she was already deceased and hidden in car before he took daughter home (and body dumped on way back). I need to look at timeline again.

 

[All4CompleteJustice]

Hey all,





I have to agree with you here! Isn't this "about" the time ML said he drove his daughter (with Aly in the car) to her mother's house? 30 to 45 minutes before Aly left the house? Something is "fishy" about that!


:welcome6: Enigma and Wagner to WS!!
:greetings:



The footprints weren't "all around her truck", only footprints leading "away" from her truck, but unfortunately, LE doesn't "which way" the footprints went!! Toward the river? or towards the levee?? Sure wish we knew that!

Also, I'm pretty sure the LE got fingerprints off the truck....



Maybe.... whomever it was, was looking for the phone? checking the truck again and again, and outside around it?? Just a thought!



Has that been confirmed?? ML's nephew?? TIA!

Sorry it's not the nephew just ex confusion got straightened out.

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[hey-Debbie]

Do we know if there was a confirmed sighting of her back at the house after taking the daughter? If 930 is last time phone used either 1) maybe she accidentally left phone at house when they went to drop off daughter and something happened on that ride and she never actually made it back to house (but truck was still there so it was dumped by where body was dumped) or 2) maybe she was already deceased and hidden in car before he took daughter home (and body dumped on way back). I need to look at timeline again.

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]My theory is that the truck dropped down off the levee shortly after going around the locked gate. The area between the 2 gates has several spots that don't have a ton of vegetation, making it possible to drive down into the area. Then it followed that orchard road around to the beach that can be seen on the google map image. Dumped her there, and continued on hoping to drive back out where they came in. But that corner there where her truck got stuck is all loose and deep dirt (mud that night).[/B] I have almost gotten my truck stuck in the same spot, while in 4 wheel drive, during the bone dry summer. I also am fairly familiar with the area, having been trapped down in there myself. I'm a photographer and I have been back in that area taking pictures of one of my kids. Specifically there at the river beach. We accessed the area from Cooley rd. Thru the gate that closes off the orchards to the public (this gate is on the other side of the levee down a dirt road - it can't be seen from the levee. After we were done with our photo shoot we followed the orchard road along the side of the park (almost getting stuck at the same spot as her truck) and headed back to Cooley rd to leave. Except the owners had closed and locked the gate after we had gone thru it. I know the ppl, but was too embarrassed to call and ask them to open it [emoji51] so I drove along the orchard road next to the levee and found a good spot to drive up and over to get back out. It's pretty sketchy driving up and down the levee where the road isn't. I can't see a young girl doing it in the pitch black dark. Although I can see a local - someone who has grown up here knowing where to drive down to get into the orchard area. Like I have said before, that little beach area is a spot that teenagers go and have bonfires and party. So the local ppl who grew up here know about it. ML grew up here in the area. If I'm able to get back there soon I will go and take a video of the area. Not sure when that will be tho. I'm sure the gate will be locked for the near future (and you cannot drive around it because of cement walls on each side) the ppl living down Cooley rd have taken down the street sign at the intersection of metteer and Cooley. I'm sure there has been a lot of traffic since all of this. There is only 1 home down that road. So if you're driving on it you're going to their place, or to work in the orchards or you're there to trespass. But I will see if I can access the area soon. I have been trying to find pictures that would show which direction her truck was headed when it got stuck. If it was heading east, my theory doesn't hold up that well. But if it was heading west my theory could be very possible. And there is no where to turn around in that area where her truck was. It's just too narrow of a road and the peach trees stop you from making any wide turns.
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I think I'm in the minority on this but I believe the footprints were consistent with Aly. I've started looking back to earlier articles and videos from right after her truck was found. The authorities explicitly stated, more than once after finding the truck, that there was no evidence to indicate foul play. I think it would absolutely indicate foul play if someone else were to have driven her truck into an orchard the night she disappeared. Also they said there was a lot of mud in the cab as if someone were repeatedly getting out of and into the cab. If someone were ditching the truck and got stuck I don't think they would bother to get out and back in repeatedly because they wanted to ditch it a bit further. I think Aly was driving, but I don't know why she drove there or if anyone else was involved. JMO.

I'm thinking the same thing as CcMama, and that is the route someone took and dumped her body in the river. This would cause for the cab of her truck to have a lot of mud in it as someone probably got out found and spot on the river and went back for Aly. Then when they went to leave the orchard they kept drive through and thought they could come back out the other side of the gate or turn around and got stuck. Then had to probably get in and out of the truck again seeing if they could get the truck unstuck or put something under the tire for traction. So that didn't work and hence you have one set of footprints with no evidence of foul play at the truck.

or Aly maybe could have left her phone charging at ML home since it was almost dead and then went with him to take his daughter home. Maybe ML suggested they take a scenic drive down by the river to see if anything was going on or maybe for a chance to get her in a remote romantic area to make a move or to smoke some weed in a cool chill location. He made moves since she was already pretty much drunk and she declined the advances and fought him off. She was accidentally killed (strangled). He dumped her body in the river and took the truck and got stuck. He would have had to walk out of that orchard on his own. So he could have easily walked home. It would take a while but if no one was expecting him home by anytime his absence would go unnoticed. Plus since his car is still at home it looks like he went no where. So then after back at the home someone finds her phone charging and doesn't know it's Aly's (since it seems there are people coming and going in that house" someone turns it on and check out who it is and then the ping happens off of that tower. Once they discover it's Ali's that's when the idea comes in that the phone has to go back to the where her truck was left.

Just a theory.

 

[lindag883]

I agree with the last poster, they may have gone for a ride after dropping off ML's daughter, in the interview he did show his dismay of having to drop her off, almost like she cramped his style.. He's just too wishy washy if you compare his two interviews - it seems LE are still scratching their heads on this one. The theory about going for a drive, one would think he would have bruises and scratches especially if she's in a confined area like her truck, I'm sure she would be scratching and kicking like a mule..

 

[AnnoCatuli]

I agree with the last poster, they may have gone for a ride after dropping off ML's daughter, in the interview he did show his dismay of having to drop her off, almost like she cramped his style.. He's just too wishy washy if you compare his two interviews - it seems LE are still scratching their heads on this one. The theory about going for a drive, one would think he would have bruises and scratches especially if she's in a confined area like her truck, I'm sure she would be scratching and kicking like a mule..

I've said it multiple times...i think LE knows a lot more than we think. Before even naming a POI/suspect you must have clear evidence and a legit working theory that is backed by the evidence. If you push early you could lose the case and suspect/justice all together. I think LE has worked with the family based off their FB posts. I feel ML is involved in some way based off his inconsistent interviews and I'm sure LE feels the same way. My guess is they are lacking evidence or there are holes in their theory timeline. Even if they had evidence of who did it and how...you need to prove it. Keeping the case as open and applying pressure like the family has will get answers eventually. Note in the crime watch interview..LE was direct and implied heavily foul play was involved. I also took note of him mentioning servailence. I'm sure this is still going on. I thought things would happen quicker than they are but my above ideas might be the hold back for now. If LE is completely unsure and don't have much I would be very disappointed as it seems like just from what we know they have a lot of leads and places to start. Personally I'm still very curious of the immense amount of info they found on her phone. To me...that is why I feel they know more just simply need physical evidence. I bet there is a lot more about the truck and finding of the phone than we know as well. All simply by educated thoughts. This case is sad and really hope they can solve it quickly.

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[Webby45]

Im finding it hard to believe that ML would have purposely killed her. This is a thirty plus year old rapper, who has some money, and is surrounded by beautiful young girls daily..he could have his pick of any girl he wanted. He says he'd only been around Aly in person once or twice and they mostly had a social media relationship...can't see someone throwing their whole life away on a murder of someone they barely know purposely. I'm just not seeing this guy murder her in a blind rage or jealous rage or anything. If he's involved at all, I would say it was more of an accidental death...she somehow got injured and died and he got scared and tried,to cover I think up...if that. I'm not sure I believe he was involved at all.

The ex boyfriend <modsnip> He sure inserted himself into interviews a lot when she was missing..even made comments they were about to go public with their rekindled relationship a day or so before she went missing...but if that was true, why would Aly meet with an older, good looking man for dinner?

what if he wanted to get back together, she blew him off, he found out she was going to see ML, followed her there, then events happened that lead To her death? Didn't the family even comment that he was more of a stalker?

if she left ML house upset, could it be that she was receiving texts from this guy and was off to meet him, or found out he was on his way there, or was there, so she took off to avoid him?

 

[Greater Than]

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[ann1989]

Do we know if there was a confirmed sighting of her back at the house after taking the daughter? If 930 is last time phone used either 1) maybe she accidentally left phone at house when they went to drop off daughter and something happened on that ride and she never actually made it back to house (but truck was still there so it was dumped by where body was dumped) or 2) maybe she was already deceased and hidden in car before he took daughter home (and body dumped on way back). I need to look at timeline again.

I mean if he was lying about his son or daughter being there when she was don't u think they'd tell someone it wasn't tru but now they're kids

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[ann1989]

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I'm thinking the same thing as CcMama, and that is the route someone took and dumped her body in the river. This would cause for the cab of her truck to have a lot of mud in it as someone probably got out found and spot on the river and went back for Aly. Then when they went to leave the orchard they kept drive through and thought they could come back out the other side of the gate or turn around and got stuck. Then had to probably get in and out of the truck again seeing if they could get the truck unstuck or put something under the tire for traction. So that didn't work and hence you have one set of footprints with no evidence of foul play at the truck.

or Aly maybe could have left her phone charging at ML home since it was almost dead and then went with him to take his daughter home. Maybe ML suggested they take a scenic drive down by the river to see if anything was going on or maybe for a chance to get her in a remote romantic area to make a move or to smoke some weed in a cool chill location. He made moves since she was already pretty much drunk and she declined the advances and fought him off. She was accidentally killed (strangled). He dumped her body in the river and took the truck and got stuck. He would have had to walk out of that orchard on his own. So he could have easily walked home. It would take a while but if no one was expecting him home by anytime his absence would go unnoticed. Plus since his car is still at home it looks like he went no where. So then after back at the home someone finds her phone charging and doesn't know it's Aly's (since it seems there are people coming and going in that house" someone turns it on and check out who it is and then the ping happens off of that tower. Once they discover it's Ali's that's when the idea comes in that the phone has to go back to the where her truck was left.

Just a theory.

Like this last theory. In the interview he speaks about getting in the truck yup take his daughter. Can any1 clarify if it was his truck or alys

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[ann1989]

I've said it multiple times...i think LE knows a lot more than we think. Before even naming a POI/suspect you must have clear evidence and a legit working theory that is backed by the evidence. If you push early you could lose the case and suspect/justice all together. I think LE has worked with the family based off their FB posts. I feel ML is involved in some way based off his inconsistent interviews and I'm sure LE feels the same way. My guess is they are lacking evidence or there are holes in their theory timeline. Even if they had evidence of who did it and how...you need to prove it. Keeping the case as open and applying pressure like the family has will get answers eventually. Note in the crime watch interview..LE was direct and implied heavily foul play was involved. I also took note of him mentioning servailence. I'm sure this is still going on. I thought things would happen quicker than they are but my above ideas might be the hold back for now. If LE is completely unsure and don't have much I would be very disappointed as it seems like just from what we know they have a lot of leads and places to start. Personally I'm still very curious of the immense amount of info they found on her phone. To me...that is why I feel they know more just simply need physical evidence. I bet there is a lot more about the truck and finding of the phone than we know as well. All simply by educated thoughts. This case is sad and really hope they can solve it quickly.

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Agree 100%

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[Jerrod]

I've said it multiple times...i think LE knows a lot more than we think. Before even naming a POI/suspect you must have clear evidence and a legit working theory that is backed by the evidence. If you push early you could lose the case and suspect/justice all together. I think LE has worked with the family based off their FB posts. I feel ML is involved in some way based off his inconsistent interviews and I'm sure LE feels the same way. My guess is they are lacking evidence or there are holes in their theory timeline. Even if they had evidence of who did it and how...you need to prove it. Keeping the case as open and applying pressure like the family has will get answers eventually. Note in the crime watch interview..LE was direct and implied heavily foul play was involved. I also took note of him mentioning servailence. I'm sure this is still going on. I thought things would happen quicker than they are but my above ideas might be the hold back for now. If LE is completely unsure and don't have much I would be very disappointed as it seems like just from what we know they have a lot of leads and places to start. Personally I'm still very curious of the immense amount of info they found on her phone. To me...that is why I feel they know more just simply need physical evidence. I bet there is a lot more about the truck and finding of the phone than we know as well. All simply by educated thoughts. This case is sad and really hope they can solve it quickly.

One thing to keep in mind is, depending on the backlog, forensic testing turnaround time can take months, so an expedient arrest wasn't going to be likely, assuming there was indeed foul play. Conceivably, any strong physical evidence gathered during search warrants - along with any corroborating eyewitness accounts - could've possibly led to an early arrest, but that hasn't happened. If the only eyewitnesses to a possible crime happen to be family members, the reward money - substantial as it is - might not be a sufficient incentive for someone to come forward. (Family loyalty and/or fear of reprisal) It's been almost 2 months. Much longer, and any break in the case will come somewhat as a surprise.

 

[AnnoCatuli]

One thing to keep in mind is, depending on the backlog, forensic testing turnaround time can take months, so an expedient arrest wasn't going to be likely, assuming there was indeed foul play. Conceivably, any strong physical evidence gathered during search warrants - along with any corroborating eyewitness accounts - could've possibly led to an early arrest, but that hasn't happened. If the only eyewitnesses to a possible crime happen to be family members, the reward money - substantial as it is - might not be a sufficient incentive for someone to come forward. (Family loyalty and/or fear of reprisal) It's been almost 2 months. Much longer, and any break in the case will come somewhat as a surprise.

Understood and I agree for the most part. The only issue I see would be if LE doesn't have anything and really are stumped. If that's the case than solving this case the more time goes on seems unlikely though no impossible. I do agree with your points though. Just hope they get it done and done right.

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[ann1989]

Can we link post from uncle's fb?? I wanted to refer to comments me made. Idk if allowed

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[perfectingpink]

Can we link post from uncle's fb?? I wanted to refer to comments me made. Idk if allowed

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Sorry, we cannot link his Facebook. Only the victim's and POI's (when one is announced).

 

[Niner]

Sorry, we cannot link his Facebook. Only the victim's and POI's (when one is announced).

I thought we could "link" FB, but NOT discuss what is on there - ?? :thinking: