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I agree with everything you said. Great post!Yes, from this thread we've learned that many people DO go hiking in the desert in July wearing bikinis, etc. That is important information, in my mind. Moreso, that Barbara's family doesn't think it odd. That being said, other posters have pointed out that voluntarily going off the beaten path (literally) would likely result in much discomfort, as the area is rife with nasty prickly-type things. In trying to put together a likely scenario, it doesn't seem likely, at least to me, that Barbara wandered off the path voluntarily.
And, regarding the search. There are many times when searches don't initially find the lost person and then do so on the second look. However, I just wouldn't expect that in this case. This isn't a situation where someone went off hiking and their loved-one became concerned after he didn't show up after a few days, or the person was last seen at the trail head, setting out on a 10 mile hike. Barbara disappeared in a few minutes! Her husband searched within at least an hour of finding her missing, I believe, and the "official" search was robust, early in the disappearance, and had a known location, vs. "she was going to go hiking the abcde trail in the xyz national park". She had no supplies (water) and little defense from the elements. She has to be around pretty close to the last sighting, methinks, if all is as we've been told.
This is very odd to me, especially since they apparently found no trace of her. No hat. No beer can (mug -whatever it was). No trace.
There are always the unlikely-but-possible theories, such as abduction; voluntarily leaving, then something untoward happening afterward; animal attack, etc., but there being no evidence of such one really wonders.
We've also been offered no medical history, such as diabetes, dementia, etc. I'm beginning to think that Barbara isn't there. Was she ever? Not sure, but putting all the available information together, I'm starting to wonder.
No she didn't. Not a trace of her has been found, if we go by reports from MSM. It looks to me like they are investigating other angles to her disappearance- although, I have a feeling LE started doing that already after the lie detector test. I am so grateful to the new poster who posted those pictures last night and today (sorry, their username escapes me!) of the area they were hiking and where she allegedly was last seen. I just don't see her getting lost there, either. Allegedly, they knew this area from previous trips there.Exactly. If she was there something would have shown up by now.
That’s where I’ve been since the beginning, and each passing day just reemphasizes that.
She was on a WALK, not a hike. And she didn’t walk off the face of the earth.
Please let us not try to force the limited information to fit into a preconceived scenario.
For dear Barbara's sake, let us keep an open mind. She deserves our open minds.
I implore all of you, please let go of any & all preconceived notions. Please open your minds - listen to the Wind.
Listen to the Wind. You may be surprised what you hear, if you open your heart and your spirit ears.
No. Nothing has been mentioned- no video from a gas station, restaurant on the way, nothing.Has anyone been able to determine when this lady was last seen by any one?
Amateur opinion and speculation
I keep clinging to the magical thought that she ran off with a VW Van full of hippies that stopped to admire and chat with the lady in the bikini.I prefer logic, as it tends to serve us well.
If she was ever in the desert, then she is long since dead.
If she wasn’t, she’s dead too.
If the spectacularly unlikely occurred, and she was kidnapped, that also means she’s probably dead.
The only hope, is that she ran off. Not a snowball’s chance in hell, as I see it.
Not good. : (No. Nothing has been mentioned- no video from a gas station, restaurant on the way, nothing.
No she didn't. Not a trace of her has been found, if we go by reports from MSM. It looks to me like they are investigating other angles to her disappearance- although, I have a feeling LE started doing that already after the lie detector test. I am so grateful to the new poster who posted those pictures last night and today (sorry, their username escapes me!) of the area they were hiking and where she allegedly was last seen. I just don't see her getting lost there, either. Allegedly, they knew this area from previous trips there.
I keep clinging to the magical thought that she ran off with a VW Van full of hippies that stopped to admire and chat with the lady in the bikini.
But as you said, there's a snowballs change for that too. : (
Amateur opinion and speculation
Various locations in Arizona: (across the border from California would include) Bail Bonds in Flagstaff, Coconino, Navajo, Apache, Yavapai, Gila, Mohave County
One of the wierdest cases I ever heard of with the exception of Sheryl Powell just weeks after.
What time of the year were you here? Maybe in April but not in July.For example, day trip on Colorado River. Bikini top and shorts to walk into the desert. With my family.
Personally don't see it as weird. You could argue it's different because they were on the river in my example, but it isn't like either of them went swimming when I was with them on the river. I did and they were stunned because it was damned cold in that water.
If someone did grab her - there would have been a struggle, her hat might have fallen off, she probably would have dropped that beer she was carrying. Probably some evidence would have been found.I prefer logic, as it tends to serve us well.
If she was ever in the desert, then she is long since dead.
If she wasn’t, she’s dead too.
If the spectacularly unlikely occurred, and she was kidnapped, that also means she’s probably dead.
The only hope, is that she ran off. Not a snowball’s chance in hell, as I see it.
He also said that he was here about 10 years ago.The VI said he recalls this about his aunt himself.
If someone did grab her - there would have been a struggle, her hat might have fallen off, she probably would have dropped that beer she was carrying. Probably some evidence would have been found.
I would be asking hubs if they stopped for gas somewhere, fast food drive thru, convenience store, Wally World. Anywhere that they could have appeared on video to verify the time, date, and that they were both present.
MOO as always.
I’m not discounting that, just saying that something like that occurring is far less likely than what almost certainly occurred.
Hope is one thing, but reality is another thing entirely.
Everyone wants her to be alive, but the odds are stacked against that.
Taught my grandson to drive on route 66. Golden Shores to Oatman Az/Have you ever done the old Route 66? That is a lot of fun. We love that area, but usually in January.