GordianKnot
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True.What is done, is done.
But nobody here knows what's been done.
So there's that.
JMO.
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True.What is done, is done.
Interesting that you would use that phrase. This was the exact quote from an interview with Grandpa about little DeOrr Kunz when he was being questioned for the umtenth time by Klien investigators.What is done, is done.
Good point Paul. I'm wondering what kind of evidence has to be left behind when someone is abducted out in the desert.An abductor could pick up the travel container.
With the heat out, how long would any spilled liquid even show on pavement?
That's the difference between us then.I’m focusing on probabilities, not possibilities.
I think it is far more probable than not that she was not abducted.
If you don’t try and figure out what happened, then what’s the point?That's the difference between us then.
Just because something is the most probable doesn't mean it's what actually happened.
I need more information before going towards a single direction in this case. JMO
What makes you think I don't want to figure out what happened?If you don’t try and figure out what happened, then what’s the point?
We could spend days going over all the possibilities, but if we focus on what the evidence and past cases tell us, then we are far more likely to end up being right.
If you don’t try and figure out what happened, then what’s the point?
We could spend days going over all the possibilities, but if we focus on what the evidence and past cases tell us, then we are far more likely to end up being right.
Extremities tend to go limp in situations involving intense fear.
Regardless, I’m not entertaining that idea.
Some lady goes for a hike, her husband loses sight of her for a brief period of time, and some random abductor happens upon her.
Naw.
Say what? I will tell you that when I was in a situation involving intense fear because of a life-threatening situation, my extremities DID NOT go limp.
To the contrary, my senses were on high alert and every move I made was made to ensure my survival - just like in Gavin Debecker's book "The Gift of Fear".
An animal rose up within me and kept me alive, did things that I don't think I would have been capable of doing if my life had not been endangered.
Someone who claims "Extremities tend to go limp in situations involving intense fear" has never been in a life-threatening situation, IMO.
The problem is that we don't know what happened to Paul Miller and Bill Ewasko.
If you don’t try and figure out what happened, then what’s the point?
We could spend days going over all the possibilities, but if we focus on what the evidence and past cases tell us, then we are far more likely to end up being right.
Do soldiers always go limp and drop their weapons when in intense combat?Say what? I will tell you that when I was in a situation involving intense fear because of a life-threatening situation, my extremities DID NOT go limp.
To the contrary, my senses were on high alert and every move I made was made to ensure my survival - just like in Gavin Debecker's book "The Gift of Fear".
An animal rose up within me and kept me alive, did things that I don't think I would have been capable of doing if my life had not been endangered.
Someone who claims "Extremities tend to go limp in situations involving intense fear" has never been in a life-threatening situation, IMO.
I have no doubt that they’re way ahead of us. They know what they’re dealing with.Having consulted with my main man William of Occam, I agree with you about this.
What strikes me about this case is that the evidence here IS the lack of evidence. Paradoxically.
There's no evidence of BT having been abducted, per LE.
Therefore, they don't believe she's been abducted.
It's a logical approach.
LE has also said they've found no trace of BT out there during their searches.
That being the case, has LE concluded that they don't believe she was ever there?
I think they likely have.
I'm wondering what LE's next steps in this case are going to be...and in what direction those steps are headed.
JMO.
I’m stating a scientific fact.
Also, a tendency doesn’t mean “invariably occurs.”
One does not have to be in a life threatening situation to understand the common physiological reactions to fear.
So why did they need to bury the keys under a rock? That never made any sense to me, seeing that they were together for the majority of the hike.Well, according to RT, 'they' were carrying a gallon jug of water, and a pack presumably within which was his camera, and maybe a cell phone. And BT had a beer in her hand (container it was in is unknown), and the key to their truck and camper was not with them, but hidden under a rock nearby the rig so that whichever of them returned first could get in to it.
BT's attire, whether RT also was drinking a beer, what his attire was, or anything else is pure hearsay since LE has not issued any statements on any of that. They have stated that they searched for her within several miles of rough terrain with all resources at hand unflinchinly in and around the area where RT said she vanished for over a week in 90-120 degree heat in the middle of the desert. JMO.
Do soldiers always go limp and drop their weapons when in intense combat?
Ha! That’s different though.Do soldiers always go limp and drop their weapons when in intense combat?
Can you provide a link to peer-reviewed studies that supports your claim?
Like an animal trying to avoid being eaten by a predator, all of your body’s resources get diverted toward one goal: staying alive. Your heart rate and blood pressure increase, you breathe faster and your muscles tense up. Your pupils dilate so you can see the threat more clearly, says Evans.