CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #4

[geevee]

If Joey's truck was parked on the street, wouldn't we be able to see it in the video?

 

[Tortoise]

If Joey's truck was parked on the street, wouldn't we be able to see it in the video?

No, the video range only covered Mitchley's side of the street and a little bit more, but not as far as the McStay property.

 

[Tssiemer]

He's just said Joseph was 6'1, he wasn't was he? I thought he was about 5'9?

According to this yes he was 5'9"

ETA: I got this image by googling "Mcstay Family missing flyer"

 

[Tortoise]

Merritt's brother lives about 20 miles south of the gravesite and his sister lives on the other side of the mountain about 8 miles away from gravesite.

 

[Tssiemer]

Who cares about the robes?!

 

[Tortoise]

Who cares about the robes?!

I think McGee said in cross that there was no evidence that there was ever more than one robe in the bathroom. One robe was photographed on the bathroom hook. I don't know why Daugherty wasn't able to ask him about this - he said she bought 4 robes on Feb 4th and robe or terry cloth was found at the grave, but the objection was sustained.

 

[Tortoise]

Det. Ryan Smith returns to the stand. The jury went on a site view yesterday, no testimony. Smith was on the stand at the end of day Tuesday. Watch Live;

Cross examination by defense attorney James McGee. Smith testifies an anonymous tip came in about internet searches done on the McStay computer. McGee: One of those was a tip that Dan Kavanaugh did an internet search on McStay's computer.

Anonymous tip said Dan Kavanaugh conducted that search, lured the family out of the house, killed them and buried the bodies, drove Trooper to the border. Smith confirms that tip did come in. They couldn't identify tipster.

McGee: Did you contact Dan Kavanaugh about that tip? Smith: No

Det. Smith says that material Joseph McStay was wrapped in could be the futon cover but can't say with certainty. McGee asks if there were any zippers found, futon cover had zippers, Smith said no.

Cathy Russon (@cathyrusson) | Twitter

 

[Tortoise]

Morning recess

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The supposed admission was recent and after she couldn't convince him to turn himself in, she went to the FBI, then the defense. They weren't intimate at the time but she claimed he was like a brother to her and it was a long relationship. She has also claimed he has threatened her and she requested witness protection.

The memorial is still there.

I appreciate this information so much.

Thank you.

 

[Tssiemer]

I think McGee said in cross that there was no evidence that there was ever more than one robe in the bathroom. One robe was photographed on the bathroom hook. I don't know why Daugherty wasn't able to ask him about this - he said she bought 4 robes on Feb 4th and robe or terry cloth was found at the grave, but the objection was sustained.

Lots of things are missing from the house that aren't in the graves.. (I.E cell phone, wallet, purse...) There's obviously another evidence dump site that has not been discovered yet. Maybe near the boarder near the Trooper dump site. Who knows.

 

[Force Ten]

I appreciate this information so much.

Thank you.

Of course it should be noted all this info comes solely from the defense.

 

[Chelly]

Who cares about the robes?!

ruffled robes, four robes, robes, robes....that bit was making me crazy. Glad I'm not alone

 

[Force Ten]

I think McGee said in cross that there was no evidence that there was ever more than one robe in the bathroom. One robe was photographed on the bathroom hook. I don't know why Daugherty wasn't able to ask him about this - he said she bought 4 robes on Feb 4th and robe or terry cloth was found at the grave, but the objection was sustained.

I don't think that is accurate. Summer bought beach towels on the 4th. No one would buy 4 robes.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Of course it should be noted all this info comes solely from the defense.

Hmm. Well I am sure when she testifies we will learn all of the story or the rest of the story. Lol

 

[Tortoise]

And on it goes....objection...approach...objection...judge is sounding very weary now, and the trial has months to go.

 

[Tortoise]

Det Smith just testified Joseph's last phone contact was with the killer. Defense objected.

 

[Tssiemer]

I’ve been thinking a lot about it.
Shower thoughts mostly.

I think the killing of Joseph was a separate event. Look at the care to wrap him and conceal him. Then I think Summer and kids walked in on it and Chase was stuck and had to get rid of them. By that point it didn’t matter if they were concealed.

The wrapping of Joey just boggles my mind.

 

[Tortoise]

Under redirect Smith says the last person Joseph McStay saw was "the killer". This brought an objection from defense and now sidebar.
Cathy Russon (@cathyrusson) | Twitter

My comment - I thought he said spoke to, not saw. Perhaps my ears are playing up. Of course the last person he saw would be the killer, so she's probably correct, but I thought question was about phone calls.

 

[Tortoise]

Someone give them some much needed training in how to ask questions. Perleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[Tortoise]

Jury now looking at two photos of the running lights of the truck - one from the Mitchley video one from the sheriff's dept. (still didn't hear which truck)