GUILTY CA - Paul Pelosi, the speaker’s husband, violently attacked after assailant broke into their SF home, Oct 2022 *arrest*

[BeginnerSleuther]

Maybe snow was a bad example but from the photos I have seen if the door was opened outward the glass would have been displaced to the left and I don't see that pattern or even a suggestion of it. JMO

I'm not envisioning it that way. Glass like that is VERY difficult to displace especially because it's unlikely that it fell into a big pile, in my experience. Unless the door literally scrapes the floor, you're not going to displace it. MOO.

 

[SouthAussie]

<RSBM>

There are unconfirmed reports in MSM that point to another person in the home but we have no clue as to who. That third person was said to have opened the door. https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pr...during-attack-on-paul-pelosi-151946821889IMHO.

If a 3rd person did open the door, it is not out of the realm of possibility that there is a live-in housekeeper.
That is a substantial house. Both Paul and Nancy are 82 years old.
And it seems as if everyone who lives in that house needs protection from the "where's Nancy" people. imo

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Pelosi attacker David DePape's ex says he is 'mentally ill,' once came home thinking he was Jesus: report

Oxane Taub, purported ex of alleged Paul Pelosi attacker David DePape says DePape has a long history of mental illness and says he once came home thinking he was Jesus.

www.foxnews.com

this article has the following quote

“Pressed about DePape's political leanings, Taub said he had never been particularly involved.

"When I met him, he was only 20 years old , and he didn't have any experience in politics, and he was very much in alignment with my views, and I've always been very progressive. I absolutely admire Nancy Pelosi," she said.”

sure it is from a person in jail, so make of it what you will

moo

For the record:

Pelosi Attack: Alleged Assailant Hoped To Take Speaker Hostage

DePape spread conspiracy theories promoting the baseless QAnon claim the 2020 election was stolen, and posted a number of racist and antisemitic rants.

www.forbes.com

Suspect in assault at Pelosi home had posted about QAnon

The man accused of breaking into House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s home and severely beating her husband with a hammer appears to have made racist and often rambling posts online, including some that questioned the results of the 2020 election, defended Donald Trump and echoed QAnon conspiracy theories.

apnews.com

 

[weepingangel]

Maybe snow was a bad example but from the photos I have seen if the door was opened outward the glass would have been displaced to the left and I don't see that pattern or even a suggestion of it. JMO

All my exterior doors open inward. ( I assumed it was a building code thing but I do live in a different state)
Is there a picture of the doors / broken glass handy? I did a quick google and didn’t find one.

 

[Laughing]

Maybe snow was a bad example but from the photos I have seen if the door was opened outward the glass would have been displaced to the left and I don't see that pattern or even a suggestion of it. JMO

I live with a physics teacher -- the glass in the available image doesn't make sense.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

All my exterior doors open inward. ( I assumed it was a building code thing but I do live in a different state)
Is there a picture of the doors / broken glass handy? I did a quick google and didn’t find one.

This is the best one I've seen.

Paul Pelosi Attacked in San Francisco Home During Break-In

Nancy Pelosi's husband, Paul, was allegedly attacked at their San Francisco home during a break-in, and was apparently rushed to the hospital for his injuries.

www.tmz.com

 

[SouthAussie]

All my exterior doors open inward. ( I assumed it was a building code thing but I do live in a different state)
Is there a picture of the doors / broken glass handy? I did a quick google and didn’t find one.

These doors appear to open outwards. It is the 3rd door from the left of the pic. There is glass inside on the floor, and glass outside on the ground.

It appears to be tempered glass, which is extra strong and shatters into small pieces when hit with a hard object (like a hammer).

A blow with a hammer would have shattered the glass, then the hammer would have been needed to clear enough shattered glass from the window (as shattered tempered glass will still hold together) to open the door from the outside.
That, to me, is how shattered glass ended up inside and outside. I can see a 'trail' where - when the door was then opened - it dragged some of the glass in the outside direction.

imo

Nancy Pelosi breaks silence after ‘life-threatening’ hammer attack on husband Paul

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi broke her silence Saturday on the “life-threatening” hammer attack that left her husband with a fractured skull, saying her family is “heartbroken and traumatized.”…

nypost.com

 

[ilovewings]

If a 3rd person did open the door, it is not out of the realm of possibility that there is a live-in housekeeper.
That is a substantial house. Both Paul and Nancy are 82 years old.
And it seems as if everyone who lives in that house needs protection from the "where's Nancy" people. imo

Do the police mention a third person in the house?

 

[sds71]

David DePape is expected to be charged on Monday for the attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband, and he will face an arraignment on Tuesday, the DA’s Office said. A press conference will be held on Tuesday to share more information with the public.

Pelosi attacker to be charged on Monday

The man accused of the brutal attack against Paul Pelosi in the San Francisco home he shares with his wife will be charged on Monday, according to a statement from the office of San Francisco Distr…

www.kron4.com

 

[SouthAussie]

Do the police mention a third person in the house?

There is an unconfirmed report of a 3rd person opening the door for the police, mentioned in the post I replied to.

 

[lonetraveler]

Do the police mention a third person in the house?

I will be very surprised to see any body cams from the police arriving at the scene.

 

[wary]

A few things that don't make sense to me yet (maybe they will as more info comes in or news reports get corrected): 1. I know Pelosi didn't have in-person security. But surely the home would have been protected by an alarm system. At my daughter's house, if a window had been broken, an alarm would have gone off and the alarm company would called them. If my daughter or husband couldn't give them the secret code, the police would have been called. 2. If Pelosi tricked the intruder into letting him use the bathroom, why didn't he lock himself in the bathroom? Letting Pelosi use the bathroom means the intruder didn't immediately assault Pelosi - the assault seems to have happened after the police arrived. And Pelosi had the hammer initially, so the intruder came unarmed.

Does the Pelosi household have any security cameras?

 

[Tutter]

For the record:

Pelosi Attack: Alleged Assailant Hoped To Take Speaker Hostage

DePape spread conspiracy theories promoting the baseless QAnon claim the 2020 election was stolen, and posted a number of racist and antisemitic rants.

www.forbes.com

Suspect in assault at Pelosi home had posted about QAnon

The man accused of breaking into House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s home and severely beating her husband with a hammer appears to have made racist and often rambling posts online, including some that questioned the results of the 2020 election, defended Donald Trump and echoed QAnon conspiracy theories.

apnews.com

I was just bringing in a viewpoint from someone who knows the perp. They have children together.

imo, far right or far left, in the middle; whatever. doesn’t matter to me. This is one messed up guy who hit an 82 year old with a hammer.

 

[weepingangel]

Zip ties found at the scene of Pelosi home invasion, police say

State charges in the criminal investigation of suspect David DePape could come as early as Monday or Tuesday, according to a federal law enforcement source.

www.nbcnews.com

The only people who were at the home during the violent break-in early Friday were Paul Pelosi, 82, and David DePape, the 42-year-old suspect who faces charges that include attempted murder, the San Francisco PD, clarifying remarks made by it's chief Bill Scott in a press conference Friday.

 

[weepingangel]

CNN Exclusive: Man who allegedly attacked Paul Pelosi had bag with zip ties, source says | CNN Politics

The man who is alleged to have attacked Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in the couple's San Francisco home had with him a bag that contained multiple zip ties, among other things, according to a source who has been briefed on the incident.

www.cnn.com

Police have said that DePape entered the home through a backdoor and it wasn’t clear if he circumvented any security measures.

 

[Eli9]

All my exterior doors open inward. ( I assumed it was a building code thing but I do live in a different state)
Is there a picture of the doors / broken glass handy? I did a quick google and didn’t find one.

I don't know how to bring it here

I live with a physics teacher -- the glass in the available image doesn't make sense.

jmho ymmv lrr

Thanks it has just had me puzzled today and I can't shake it. Not saying anything nefarious happened just that I can't make sense of it. JOM MOO

 

[Tutter]

Zip ties found at the scene of Pelosi home invasion, police say

State charges in the criminal investigation of suspect David DePape could come as early as Monday or Tuesday, according to a federal law enforcement source.

www.nbcnews.com

The only people who were at the home during the violent break-in early Friday were Paul Pelosi, 82, and David DePape, the 42-year-old suspect who faces charges that include attempted murder, the San Francisco PD, clarifying remarks made by it's chief Bill Scott in a press conference Friday.

From link

“Police said officers entered the home early Friday and saw Paul Pelosi and the suspect locked in a battle over a hammer. As Pelosi released his grip, the suspect yanked it and then struck Pelosi in the head, they said.”

how did police get in? Surely neither of them opened the door while in the hammer battle.

and

“Blog posts that are being investigated in connection with DePape highlight sprawling and contradictory views, multiple senior law enforcement officials familiar with the case told NBC News. The posts take aspects of liberal anti-establishment ideas to more recent posts that espouse positions typically associated with far-right extremism, the sources said.

Depape appeared to operate a website on which he wrote a wide variety of posts touching on almost all manner of modern conspiracy thinking: aliens, Jewish people, communism, vaccines, voter fraud and many other topics. Many of the posts were published in the past few months.”

sounds like just a looney toon to me

moo

 

[Eli9]

These doors appear to open outwards. It is the 3rd door from the left of the pic. There is glass inside on the floor, and glass outside on the ground.

It appears to be tempered glass, which is extra strong and shatters into small pieces when hit with a hard object (like a hammer).

A blow with a hammer would have shattered the glass, then the hammer would have been needed to clear enough shattered glass from the window (as shattered tempered glass will still hold together) to open the door from the outside.
That, to me, is how shattered glass ended up inside and outside. I can see a 'trail' where - when the door was then opened - it dragged some of the glass in the outside direction.

imo

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Nancy Pelosi breaks silence after ‘life-threatening’ hammer attack on husband Paul

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi broke her silence Saturday on the “life-threatening” hammer attack that left her husband with a fractured skull, saying her family is “heartbroken and traumatized.”…

nypost.com

I wish I could see the trail you describe from the middle set of doors but I don't, none of it. Thanks for bringing the picture here, it really helps!

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I was just bringing in a viewpoint from someone who knows the perp. They have children together.

imo, far right or far left, in the middle; whatever. doesn’t matter to me. This is one messed up guy who hit an 82 year old with a hammer.

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I agree though about the suspect in general. His political ideology doesn't matter. He committed a horrendous crime and should be punished. MOO.

 

[Tillicum]

From link

“Police said officers entered the home early Friday and saw Paul Pelosi and the suspect locked in a battle over a hammer. As Pelosi released his grip, the suspect yanked it and then struck Pelosi in the head, they said.”

how did police get in? Surely neither of them opened the door while in the hammer battle.

and

“Blog posts that are being investigated in connection with DePape highlight sprawling and contradictory views, multiple senior law enforcement officials familiar with the case told NBC News. The posts take aspects of liberal anti-establishment ideas to more recent posts that espouse positions typically associated with far-right extremism, the sources said.

Depape appeared to operate a website on which he wrote a wide variety of posts touching on almost all manner of modern conspiracy thinking: aliens, Jewish people, communism, vaccines, voter fraud and many other topics. Many of the posts were published in the past few months.”

sounds like just a looney toon to me

moo

Yeah and there are many more out there. The political rhetoric needs to stop on all sides before another one is pushed over the edge IMO.