CA CA - San Mateo, WhtMle, 20-30, UP10662, Near Creek w/other male, June 7, 1978

[madamx]

JOHN DOE #75-2 / CASE #78-511 | Coroner

On June 7, 1978, the badly decomposed remains of an adult male were found on the north side of Tunitas Creek Road, one-quarter mile east of Bolitas Creek Road, in the coastal area of unincorporated San Mateo County.
The remains were located approximately 30-40 feet down an embankment, lying near a creek.
Initially, there were two bodies located at the scene;
one being identified as Raymond Oscar Wilson.
The remains bore no identification.
This subject may have been a member of the gay community in San Francisco.
Description of Remains:

Sex: Male
Race: Caucasian
Age: Approximately 21 - 27 years
Eyes: Brown
Hair: Moderate length, brown
Facial Hair: Short beard and mustache
Height: Approximately 5' 11"
Weight: Approximately 160 lbs

Clothing: Denim, blue jeans

Jewelry: Man's ring, white metal or gold plated with synthetic red stone (size 7 3/4)

Distinguishing Marks/Tattoos: Possible scar on the inner aspect of the right leg, just below knee

JOHN DOE #75-2 / CASE #78-511 | Coroner

 

[madamx]

Unidentified Person Case

Demographics
SexMale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
Estimated Age Range20-30 Years
Estimated Year of Death 1978
Estimated PMI Weeks
Height 5' 11"(71 inches) , Measured
Weight 160 lbs, Measured

Location Found Map
Street Address N/S of Tunitas Creek Road .25 miles E/O Lobitas Creek Road Unincorporated, California
CountySan Mateo County
GPS Coordinates--

Circumstances of Recovery The badly decomposed remains were found 30-40 feet down an embankment, lying near a creek on the north side of Tunitas Creek Road, .25 miles east of Lobitas Creek Road in coastal area of unincorporated San Mateo County.
A second body, later identified as Raymond Oscar Wilson was located near the remains.

Hair Color Brown
Head Hair Description Moderate length
Body Hair Description None
Facial Hair Description Short beard with mustache
Left Eye Color Brown
Right Eye Color Brown

Scar/mark
A pale marking possibly believed to be a scar located below the right knee


Clothing
Blue jeans
On the Body

Jewelry
Y/M ring with one large red stone on the right index finger

 

[madamx]

3074UMCA

 

[madamx]

Bumping

 

[madamx]

Have tried looking for any info on this to see if it looked like both of the men where fumed at the same time in that area.
I have also looked to see if I could find any info on Raymond Oscar Wilson the guy that was identified and I could not find anything there either.
It's sad how frustrating these cases can be nd then the older they get the less info there is out there and or people die nd or move away nd forget.
I guess that is why I try no drag the ones I find out into the light.

 

[madamx]

Close up of his finger prints and some info from Doe Network

 

[madamx]

This is his dental chart.
Looks like something that would be noticed and possibly remembered when the guy smiled is that the tooth next to his front Right tooth was broken?? just a thought.

i remember years ago I dated a guy and the tooth next to his left front tooth was broken nd when he smiled you could really notice it. So much so I still remember it!

 

[madamx]

Martin Kevin Burleson - California Missing Person Directory

Actual photo
Public viewable


Missing
Last seen alive: October 01, 1973

Circumstances: Missing called mother in 10-1-1973 and told her that he was going to move back home to Live Oak, CA. Family has not seen or heard from him since.
First Name: Martin Kevin
Middle Name: Kevin
Last Name: Burleson
Details
Age When Last Known Alive: 23
Race: White
Sex: Male
Height: 71.0
Weight: 150.0
Location
City: San Francisco
State: California
County: San Francisco
Appearance
Hair: Brown
Eye: Blue
Clothing and Accessories
Transportation

 

[madamx]

I think Kevin's stats line up . He also had facial hair and from the photo looks like he wore rings too.

 

[madamx]

CA - CA - Martin Kevin Burleson, 22, San Francisco, 1 Oct 1973

I found some more images of Martin and I am noticing he wore rings on different fingers.. iam wondering if this UID could be him.

 

[MadMcGoo]

It’s always interesting to me when only one of two decedents found are identified. How often do people die together and share no connection whatsoever? Mostly a rhetorical question, but I’d think Raymond might hold a clue to the second man’s identity.

 

[madamx]

It’s always interesting to me when only one of two decedents found are identified. How often do people die together and share no connection whatsoever? Mostly a rhetorical question, but I’d think Raymond might hold a clue to the second man’s identity.

I found nothing on Raymond who I believe your right holds the key… well I had found nothing untl tonight. I believe an article I found has a sketch and some info but no mention of Raymond.

 

[madamx]

The aforementioned CLONE MURDERS stand out as an aberration in the long line of Gay murders in San Francisco. The victims had been seen in S.F. Gay bars, but then they vanished. When their bodies had been found, it was clear they had been tortured before death. Unlike most of the S.F. Gay murder victims their bodies had been transported to an isolated area of Tunitas Creek Road in San Mateo County. Some victims could be identified. Two victims remain John Does to this day.


S.F. Examiner, December 29, 1979, seeking the identity of the 2 John Does.
Why was it necessary for the killer in this case to transport the bodies? Well, 6 more Gay victims being found in S.F. in 1978 would add to quite a tally already. And this could cause more Gay vigilantes and more neighborhood watch. But leaving the bodies where they were killed could also identify the killing location, and I would suggest they were all killed in the same hidden lair.

David Likens has been found guilty of these CLONE MURDERS in the court of public gay opinion. After all, he had served time for a similar murder earlier. He was into sado and bondage, and he hung himself in jail rather than face trial. But there is evidence that indicates more than one perp was involved. Likens didn’t have a car, though he had a buddy who did. Likens also didn’t exactly have a convenient lair. He had a flat in Haight, but then moved in with a buddy named Danny Hepburn on Henry Street. Hepburn also killed himself (officially). Likens had essentially been a prostitute out of an escort service on Church Street in Noe Valley, south of Castro. He could have connected with victims here, but the books of an escort service seem an easy way to link him to the murders. There is no easy answer as to where the victims were killed, but the “Robert Redford of Gay *advertiser censored*” may have been involved. However, these may not be thrill murders.

 

[madamx]

True Crime/Cold Case – Page 2 – questersite

 

[madamx]

Here is another article on David Likens who commuted these murders

Bay Area Reporter 21 December 1978 — California Digital Newspaper Collection

 

[madamx]

The Clone Killer seems to have murdered his victims inside, unbound them, and then transported them to Tunitas Creek Road.


https://questersite.wordpress.com/2021/08/09/american-whitechapel-san-franciscos-gay-murders/amp/

 

[JSolt1210]

It’s always interesting to me when only one of two decedents found are identified. How often do people die together and share no connection whatsoever? Mostly a rhetorical question, but I’d think Raymond might hold a clue to the second man’s identity.

That's possible. But it's also possible that the two men met a gay bar, decided to have a quick sexual encounter in public, and their attacker either surprised them at the location, or went with them with or without their knowledge. If Raymond had just met the other victim, then there would be little to no connection between the two men.

 

[madamx]

That's possible. But it's also possible that the two men met a gay bar, decided to have a quick sexual encounter in public, and their attacker either surprised them at the location, or went with them with or without their knowledge. If Raymond had just met the other victim, then there would be little to no connection between the two men.

oooh jsolt that’s a really good point.

 

[madamx]

True Crime/Cold Case – Page 2 – questersite

Below is a close up of the image In The article that I believe is this John Doe. Iam posting it here since this guy does not have a a recon. At least we have something to go by.

 

[forensics100]

Could they be victims of Randy Kraft?