Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #9

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Ugh I give up. It's all just terribly annoying. I'm glad that we "know" but I fear we will never really "know", because for me it has to make sense or I will doubt. I want it to make sense, I do, but I can't put this puzzle together at the moment. Somebody call Anne Rule.

I agree. We may never know. But this case is one for the history books ... WS will be talking about it for a long, long time and it will make a very good frame of reference in future cases.

Ann Rule passed away.
 
K. In a fast-moving story like this one, I wouldn't trust everything found online...just sayin'

Even if it is the Sacramento Bee, etc.

We need some primary sources.
 
This woman from Vallejo was not held by her captor for weeks, but she was held (and raped) and then released with no ransom. Her kidnapper was mentally ill. This is the case that a couple people have mentioned in which the police thought the kidnapping was a hoax conjured up by the victim and her boyfriend. Pretty awful that she went through that and the police wouldn't believe her or her boyfriend.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...ns-20160801-snap-story,amp.html?client=safari

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Terrible case. I read the article you linked to, but it didn't have any info on why the abductor released her. I'd really like to hear what his motivation was for letting her go.
 
How can a woman who has her hands "bound" and is "chained" to something...a tree maybe, summon help from passing motorists?
 
Reports state she is battered. She may be very fragile emotionally. One day to recover and heal before seeing her kids may be the best for all of them. The kids don't need to see their mum injured and frightened, that would traumatise them a lot more than not seeing her. She probably can't wait to see them but needs to think about what's best for them.

Hi, my apologies if the reports of battery you're referring to have been linked, but could you please link them as I've not seen them. Thanks.
 
Things that stand out to me in some way:

• The text to KP when he doesn't take his phone in with him. Asking a time sensitive question to someone who can't answer in a time sensitive manner is strange to me.

• The half-wrapped present. 1. How does one half wrap a present? 2. What was the interruption that also meant that it wasn't returned to before going for a jog? (Especially having not yet received the response from KP; how did she know he wouldn't come home for lunch whilst she was on her jog to find the half-wrapped present for him?)

• The earbuds and phone being on the side of the road. Unless there was a struggle, I can't see why the items were on the side of the road. If there was a struggle, I wonder HOW she was taken by two women. Did she struggle against two people with a gun? Did she leave the phone as a breadcrumb? Seems an odd choice of breadcrumb being that it may be your lifeline. If they had a gun, it seems to me there would not have been a struggle and they would not have wanted the phone left in the open as it was.

• The fact that it was two women. If they are known to her, abducting her and releasing her is beyond bizarre; she can just name them. If they are unknown to her, what on earth could the possibly want with her? Yes, women commit crimes, but this situation is most definitely not the norm. If anyone can point me towards another case where two or more women have abducted another unknown-to-them female, I'd be very interested. This doesn't seem a normal case to me in any way.

• How she got to where she was and how she was kept fed and watered for that time without having built up any description of the perpetrators.

• Being released by the perpetrators at all. Three weeks and then.... released? Not escaped? Again, if anyone can point me towards randomly released abductees within such a short period of time, but outside of a day or two...

• The reverse ransom that is being described as some sort of ransom. It's a reward without the involvement of LE. I'm not sure why the aggression was attached to it; not a reassuring step for negotiation IMO.

• The deadline for the reward. It wasn't a deadline set up in the late stages of the deal where the payment had been agreed. A deadline was put on it from the start, without there having been any contact between the parties.

• The reading of the poem and balloon release which took place after SP had been found. KP had spoken to her by then also (connected him to her via the sheriff's office) so they would have known conclusively she had been found.

I'm not sure what we're looking at and if any or all of the above is of no consequence at all, I simply wanted to make a non-exhaustive list of the things that I am struggling to reconcile in my head at this stage.

Please don't see this as anything other than expressing my queries on certain points of the case.

The third item on your list is what I'm trying to figure out.

Maybe she was forced into a vehicle at gunpoint while she was still wearing earbuds connected to her phone. After she was in the car, the perps pulled the earbuds and phone away from her and threw them out the car window.

That could explain why the dogs didn't pick up her scent at that location. She wasn't on the ground there, but in the car.

IDK. This is pure speculation, trying to figure out the logistics of the abduction.


jmo
 
First, I'm glad she is safe.

Second, there is a Yolo county? For real? :laughing:

Third, I'm going to exercise my right to remain silent until further information is found and provided.
 
I know, that is odd...4:30am is still pitch black, I'm not sure what I would do if I was driving alone...Call 911 surely, but I'm not sure if I would be brave enough to stop, get out of my car, etc. Don't want to be the next victim. It was super odd that that lady posted on facebook that she "didn't have time to stop" Sounds like she just wants her 15 minutes of fame, IMO.

My husband and I were driving in the dark on a lonely rural road many years ago when a young man frantically got our attention from the side of the road. His hands were bound behind his back. We cracked our window and he told us he had been hitchhiking and was assaulted and robbed. He was clearly terrified and afraid they would come back and hurt him.

We had our young daughter in the car and were afraid it was a set up...that accomplices would emerge from the woods when we opened our door to let him into the car. So we told him we would go straight to the CHP office about a mile away and report where he was. This was in the days before cell phones. He begged us not to leave him and we felt horrible driving away. We reported it and checked with the CHP later to make sure they found him. It turned out his story was true, so we felt even worse, but it was the only reasonable and safe decision we felt we could make.

About a year later, we did pick up a naked woman who flagged us down from behind a bush along another dark rural road. But that's a story for another time. :D
 
Good news that her injuries were non-life threatening and she was released from hospital the same day:

http://www.kion546.com/news/missing-shasta-county-mother-found-safe/182976757

(Shasta County Sheriff Tom) "Bosenko says the 34-year-old woman suffered unspecified injuries during her ordeal and was treated and released from a hospital."

Yes, but the article I read this morning had a Yolo deputy commenting that she was still recovering at the hospital. It was after Bosenko said this at the presser yesterday. I'm not sure which is true, nor do I believe it really matters much.
 
How can a woman who has her hands "bound" and is "chained" to something...a tree maybe, summon help from passing motorists?

It's not hard to do. Place your wrists together as if they were bound. You can still raise your arms enough to simulate a waving motion. Obviously I have no idea if that's what she did, but she clearly did something to get the attention of the passing truck driver.
 
First, I'm glad she is safe.

Second, there is a Yolo county? For real? :laughing:

Third, I'm going to exercise my right to remain silent until further information is found and provided.

Yes, there is a Yolo County. It follows Interstate 5 same as Redding. She was apparently found in Woodland along the Interstate 5.
 
The balloon release occurred two hours before the public was informed that Sherri had been found. LE could have asked her closest family members to keep it to themselves until LE made the news public. I don't know. I also don't know if anyone who attended the balloon release even knew Sherri had been found.

That's my point, that they didn't want the news shared. It's easier to keep it quiet than to tell family members to not share the news—and to not look relieved or elated.


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Yes, but the article I read this morning had a Yolo deputy commenting that she was still recovering at the hospital. It was after Bosenko said this at the presser yesterday. I'm not sure which is true, nor do I believe it really matters much.

I do believe it matters, so since you don't have a link would you please let me know which publication the article was in? Thanks.
 
I caught that too. But she would see them when they abducted her?

No idea. I got the impression that she had only had very preliminary and limited interviews with detectives, so there's a lot of information that is not known yet. There is also information that is known and is not being disclosed, according to the sheriff. Maybe they had face coverings the whole time. I'm anxious to learn more.
 
I know, that is odd...4:30am is still pitch black, I'm not sure what I would do if I was driving alone...Call 911 surely, but I'm not sure if I would be brave enough to stop, get out of my car, etc. Don't want to be the next victim. It was super odd that that lady posted on facebook that she "didn't have time to stop" Sounds like she just wants her 15 minutes of fame, IMO.

She stopped and called the police pretty quickly, from what i understand.

To quote: "I did pull over and report to police that I saw you"

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