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Just a: and that's the rest of the story, is all.
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Thanks GrainneDhu, very helpfull..... :rocker:
So then it seems as if LE is pretty sure that SL left her home right around the time of her last text at 7:11 am?
And it would also imply, that she wasn't taken somewhere else between 7:11am and where the phone was dropped (probably around 7:15ish)/?
So IF someone was in her home, it would have had to been after her mother left for work (around 6:30?) but no later than 7:11am.
So based on this, I still think she was most likely picked up at her driveway around 7:11am and taken immediately out of the area, with the phone being dropped on the way out.
I dont really have a strong feeling whether the purse was then discarded at this time, or if it was placed there at a later time.
I am also still having a hunch that she got in the car with someone that she is much more familiar with than anybody is thinking. Its possible that it was someone she met online, but I think LE would have been able to find clues of this. Im actually thinking she regularly got a ride from this person, or its someone much closer like a neighbor, friend, etc.
Curious, where did we get the info that they were all issued iPhones? I have been around a lot of them who were still sporting older flips. A few droids. A few iPhones. But certainly does not appear to be dept wide.
A reporter asked where the photo of the photo came from, and it was stated that officers are issued I Phones. I don't have a link, sorry. There is a photo somewhere of an officer doing something with his department I Phone during a search.
Am I the only one who thinks this was not someone she knew?
Am I the only one who thinks this was not someone she knew?
Your statement is very profound and hits home with me. Fear interferred with my life for so many years. I refuse to do that anymore. I now stand strong and refuse to allow my attackers to have control over me.
I do take precousions that everyone should take for safety, like watching my surrounding, making sure my doors are locked. Since becoming active in activism, I have learned more about other dangers that I wasn't previously aware of. These are dangers that the general public and especially minors would not be in tune with. I have vowed to not let what I have learned interfer with my everyday life.
I came to this realization at the age of 28 when I read The Stranger Beside Me. I would tell u the whole story because it was without exaggeration a life changing experience..but I just burnt my thumb on my R hand and can't take it off ice. Can't type well worth just my L hand either. So just know I applaud and share ur decision not to allow fear to control u!
I have tried every scenario there is trying to find one that makes the most sense to me.
And for me in cases like this it usually comes down to what is the easiest to understand without having to put in so many events in play to get the theory to work and still remain logical to me.
I never believed Sierra was a runaway. There is absolutely nothing in her past that points she would run away from her friends and family. Sierra really seemed very happy, social ...with plans just like planning to get streaks put in her hair and that is a very big deal to a 15 year old teen girl.
I have looked at the morning that she disappeared and there is nothing out of the ordinary. By all indications she was up at her usual time...getting dressed for school, texting and tweeting. The time everything stops is very consistent with the time Sierra would walkout to catch the bus.
I do not think a friend just happened along, and that friend, who LE must not know anything about, all of a sudden turned into a maniacal kidnapper and possible rapist and murderer.
There is no evidence either showing Sierra is even the type to get into a vehicle with just a neighbor or someone she had seen in the neighborhood. So I dont think Sierra went willingly with anyone either.
If she had had conversations on line.. even small chit chat with anyone.. LE would know who those people are by now. The FBI can pick something up even if the posts seem benign to a layperson. So this is not someone she met on line, imo.
I can only speak for myself, but imo Sierra would never go out in a prickly cactus patch to hide her very expensive purse. I do not think she was going to loan her clothes to anyone. No one loans their bra and panties out, imo. It makes much more sense for me that these were the clothes she had on when she walked out the door with every intention of catching the school bus.
I also dont think her books not being scattered on the driveway means it wasnt a stranger. Quite a few of these type of kidnappings had no evidence left behind of the victim's personal belongings. And really who would leave scattered school books at the end of a neatly kept home and driveway for anyone to come by and see and be alarmed right away?
So my take on her disappearance is either a stranger came into the area for some reason and spotted Sierra walking to and from the bus stop everyday. I think they began to watch the schedule of that house. The perp may even have family that lives in the area.
I think they knew the workers wouldnt be in the fields by Sierra's that day. Now it could be a neighbor or someone that works in that area, but I do not believe Sierra went willingly with them even if they were from the neighborhood.
Of course she could have been told a myriad of things such as her mother had summoned her because she had been in a vehicle accident. That imo is still getting her into the vehicle under false pretenses.
If the perp drove a pickup truck/van/suv and pulled to the end of the driveway with Sierra between her home and the vehicle then she would not be seen as the truck/van/siv would sit up high. I do think there is a possiblity that it could be more than one perp.
However; in so many of these cases the perp acts alone and is still able to nab the victim and control them inside of their vehicle.
This is just my theory.
IMO
A better comparison would be to Alice Cooper. He sang all the time about murder, cannibalism & other taboos... in a joking manner that many parents of yesteryear didn't get & found absolutely horrifying.
Thank you! I am sorry about your thumb! I would love to hear about it in the future! We would probably have to move over to the misc. forum or something!
That is the way I am leaning but it is because of the location. It is not really an area someone would be cruising and not at that hour. But, I would love to hear your reasons if you think it was random. tia
I have not commented on the purse and books situation.
But Ill make a theory based on nothing more than speculation and MOO.
A few times it has been mentioned but not verified that urine was found deposited on the item or items or what appeared to be possible urine.
Perhaps after tossing the phone after having her in the vehicle and then on the way out of town later with or without her maybe he had to use the restroom. So he pulled over the side of the road. Got out with the books and purse sat them down where they were found and relieved himself and then got back in the vehicle and took off.
Just another theory like any other concerning the books purse and possible urine.
I have not commented on the purse and books situation.
But Ill make a theory based on nothing more than speculation and MOO.
A few times it has been mentioned but not verified that urine was found deposited on the item or items or what appeared to be possible urine.
Perhaps after tossing the phone after having her in the vehicle and then on the way out of town later with or without her maybe he had to use the restroom. So he pulled over the side of the road. Got out with the books and purse sat them down where they were found and relieved himself and then got back in the vehicle and took off.
Just another theory like any other concerning the books purse and possible urine.