I have not seen that focus here on WS, fwiw.It bothers me that anyone is focusing on the fact that Dan and Stephanie chose to live at Olive Dell Ranch. They had an adorable little home and a fun active community to enjoy their retirement years. The fact that it’s a nudist community is completely irrelevant to the case. It’s so sad and tragic that their lives were cut short by a mentally unstable neighbor. Unfortunately events like this can happen anywhere.
Lots of info in this article.
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Redlands nudist resort reeling from resident’s arrest on suspicion of killing 2 neighbors
“Ever since I’ve been here, everyone has been so nice and welcoming, so I never expected anything like this to happen,” one resident says.www.dailybreeze.com
Rodriguez said the Menards complained that management was demanding membership fees from them and restricting the couple’s pool privileges.
”When they would go to the pool someone would harass them for money,” Rodriguez said. “People started poking around their RV and their mobile home, so what we did is we opened up our home to them. They would come every Friday, and if I had extra food, I would share it with them. They were good people. All they wanted to do was sing karaoke and hang out by the pool.”
In March, Storm, the eight-year resident, said management began serving eviction notices and raising rents. Stephanie Menard was one of the more engaged residents, attending meetings they had about the dispute.
In June, residents Wayne and Sandy Marinelli filed a lawsuit against the resort owners, alleging they improperly imposed fees, raised rents and issued eviction notices, said their attorney, Robert Williams of the BWA Law Group in Santa Ana. The next month, a judge issued a temporary restraining order blocking evictions of residents at the resort who refuse to pay certain fees, court records show.
The owners’ attorney responded to the request for the restraining order by filing a document with the court that said the fees and evictions were appropriate.
View | Delegate | Case Number | Case Style | Court Location | Case Status | Case Type | Filing Date |
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View Case | CIVSB2417577 | CIVSB2417577 | **COMPLEX** Marinelli et al -v- Olive Dell Managment, LLC et al | San Bernardino | Active | Business Tort/Unfair Business Practice Unlimited | 5/31/2024 |
View Case | CIVSB2417594 | CIVSB2417594 | KILBORN et al -v - OLIVE DELL MANAGEMENT, LLC et al | San Bernardino | Active | Breach of Contract/Warranty Unlimited | 5/31/2024 |
Pardon me if this has already been speculated on, but what do you all think he used to (allegedly) kill them? Or, did he use that gun and when he turned it on himself, it no longer worked? [Asking for a friend.]He tried to kill himself but the gun did not work…
Media reported (from police) that it was a riflePardon me if this has already been speculated on, but what do you all think he used to (allegedly) kill them? Or, did he use that gun and when he turned it on himself, it no longer worked? [Asking for a friend.]
He says his rifle jammed??Media reported (from police) that it was a rifle
ETA: GRAPHIC DISCUSSION.Pardon me if this has already been speculated on, but what do you all think he used to (allegedly) kill them? Or, did he use that gun and when he turned it on himself, it no longer worked? [Asking for a friend.]
I think we give homicidal people too much credit for being 'rational'. Also, not sure why anyone would believe a man who murdered an innocent couple and their dog.I guess the perp didn’t like the Menards cutting the “shade tree” branches. It must have riled him up.
"What else is buried under that house?".....Grisly discovery. This just keeps getting worse. What else is buried under that house?
RSBMIf he is proven guilty and the motive is stupid neighbour fights, I hope justice will be fully served. All this is crazy, damn crazy
Seems like it was a fairly recent build too. Started it about two and half years ago.
(Sorry, wasn't able to remove the amp link.)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ktla.c...h-for-missing-elderly-couple-from-colton/amp/
Neighbors said they knew the 62-year-old as “Sparky,” and some described him as a loner, but also a nice person.
One neighbor, John Hills, said he remembers when Sparks started digging underneath his home.
“About two and a half years ago, he borrowed my mule in order to excavate a basement under his trailer,” Hills told KTLA’s Shelby Nelson. “He told me he needed to build a space that would keep him cool during summer because he was having a hard time affording the electricity.”
Because Lani Uribes disappeared in 2020 and Sparks apparently started digging under his trailer around 2 1/2 years ago, I think it's unlikely that she's buried in that space."What else is buried under that house?".....
AND.... perhaps...
WHO else?!?
I think we agree and mean the same thing , it is just my non native englishRSBM
I'm not clear on what could ever be a non-stupid, non-crazy motive for killing anyone...
Like, if it was stealing something from them, that would be understandable and not crazy? We can all understand killing people for money...? Or, rising up against the unfairness of the new management by murdering his fellow victimized neighbours? Sure, that's completely understandable, I'd react the same way under such unfairness...(irony).
If nothing else, the severe consequences and likelihood of being caught, shows this guy seriously lost connection with reality back before he built his 5 foot tall concrete bunker.
JMO
Because Lani Uribes disappeared in 2020 and Sparks apparently started digging under his trailer around 2 1/2 years ago, I think it's unlikely that she's buried in that space.
I hope no other bodies were found besides those of the Menards (and possibly of their dog).
JMO
But perhaps Sparks is a procrastinator? ("I really must get around to that one day.")Because Lani Uribes disappeared in 2020 and Sparks apparently started digging under his trailer around 2 1/2 years ago, I think it's unlikely that she's buried in that space.
I hope no other bodies were found besides those of the Menards (and possibly of their dog).
JMO
I haven’t seen confirmation of murder weapon only that he barricaded himself in the bunker armed.Pardon me if this has already been speculated on, but what do you all think he used to (allegedly) kill them? Or, did he use that gun and when he turned it on himself, it no longer worked? [Asking for a friend.]
Speaking for us all!!When will we learn what happened? When will Samantha Murphy's body be found? Will we ever learn more about the little Katz twins? Where is Madalina Cojocari? Where is William Tyrell? And why oh why does a naturally impatient person like me follow these cases?
I feel your pain Kemug. And, where is Claudia Lawrence? If you're familiar with her caseWhen will we learn what happened? When will Samantha Murphy's body be found? Will we ever learn more about the little Katz twins? Where is Madalina Cojocari? Where is William Tyrell? And why oh why does a naturally impatient person like me follow these cases?