Canada - Niagara police officer shot by fellow officer in Pelham, Ontario, 29 Nov 2018

[dotr]

Niagara police officer shot, seriously injured by fellow officer in Pelham, Ont. | CBC News
"The SIU can confirm it is investigating an interaction between two Niagara Regional Police Service officers, and the gunshot wound sustained by one of the officers," a tweet from the Special Investigations Unit reads"

 

[dotr]

SIU confirms cop shot during interaction with fellow officer in Pelham, Ont.
It happened in Pelham, Ont., about 30 minutes west of Niagara Falls.
“An officer has been transported by paramedics from the scene with injuries,” Niagara police said in a brief statement.

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The scene of a police-involved shooting in Pelham, Ont. on Nov. 29, 2018 is seen.




"Prior to the incident, Niagara Regional Police tweeted that officers would be on that stretch of roadway Thursday morning for an investigation.

A local news report indicated officers were at the scene to gather evidence related to an impaired driving incident that occurred on the night of Nov. 12."

 

[dotr]

Niagara-area officer shot several times in argument with fellow cop, police sources say | The Star
rbbm.
"According to multiple police sources, Const. Nathan Parker was taken to an out-of-town hospital after the shooting in Pelham, Ont., in the area between Sulphur Spring Dr. and Effingham St., where police were doing a follow-up investigation of a Nov. 12 impaired driving collision."
"Police sources did not know the nature of the argument, but said Parker may have been shot five or more times."
"Parker has a long and troubled history with the NRP, having faced at least four disciplinary hearings, three of which involved violence.

In 2015, Parker was docked 120 hours after pleading guilty to discreditable conduct and unnecessary use of force against a prisoner under the Police Services Act.

In 2012, Parker was docked 60 hours of pay after pleading guilty for discreditable conduct after pursuing his own investigation into a commanding officer who had been cleared of wrongdoing from a previous incident.

Parker was found guilty of using unnecessary force in 2011 and docked 90 days pay for arresting a cyclist without cause in 2008.

And in 2007, Parker lost a week’s pay after he was found guilty in a disciplinary hearing for pepper-spraying a prisoner who was handcuffed and restrained in the backseat of a cruiser in 2005."

 

[Woodland]

Good grief. Hoping the officer that fired did so in self defense.

 

[flute4peace]

Why on earth was this man still employed by the police service?

 

[LadyL]

wow this is insane
kinda hard to feel sorry for the one in hospital though

 

[JDG]

^^^ totally agree with above comments

 

[dotr]

Niagara cop shot by fellow officer upgraded to stable condition

Toronto Sun sources have identified this as Niagara Regional Police Const. Nathan Parker, the officer who was allegedly shot by a fellow cop, Det.-Sgt. Shane Donovan, in Pelham, Ont., on Thursday, Nov. 29, 2018. (Facebook)
''Niagara Regional Police later released a statement explaining the injured officer’s condition has been upgraded to stable.''

 

[Woodland]

From the above link -

The shooting, sources say, followed a “heated argument” and “fist fight” between a constable and a detective sergeant responding to a traffic accident ....

Sources told the Toronto Sun that Donovan was losing a fight before the shooting. Up to five bullets were allegedly discharged from a police officer’s gun.

The shooting victim, sources say, did not pull a weapon.

Niagara cop shot by fellow officer upgraded to stable condition

The wording is a little difficult to understand imo - was one of the officers in an accident? Were they both responding to another accident? Not sure that a Det-Sgt responds to traffic accidents.

Either way it will be interesting to learn why they got into a fist fight. Can a Det-Sgt shoot someone when they are losing a fist fight - where the other person does not have a weapon drawn? Might be a fine line there.

 

[JDG]

No one was in an accident as I understand it. They were sent out to investigate an earlier (few days earlier) accident together.

Obviously, someone thought a Det-Sgt was needed for the investigation.

I suspect with the history of the one shot, there was more than a fist fight involved.

The constable shot, IMO, seems to have 'problems' with senior people, authority (ironically) and has a history of violence.

Why he's even still on the force is perplexing.

The law says you can use whatever force is necessary to save your life.

IF you have reason to believe that the guy is going to beat you to death or is verbalizing that, you can use 'reasonable' force to save yourself.

They were in a remote area and if the Det-Sgt thought he might be killed, I'd think there's a possibility of self-defence being put forward.

 

[dotr]

Shooting of an on-duty police officer by a fellow cop in Niagara region shocks policing instructor | CBC News
'For it to come to this, wow'
"I've seen infidelity on the job between officers and officer's spouses, where one officer is with somebody else's partner," said Bryan.

There'll be some choosing sides and stuff like that.- Kevin Bryan, policing instructor
"I know of incidents where someone has been punched in the face and stuff like that, over infidelity or perceived infidelity. But I've never seen it where it's come to shots — and on duty, too.

"I've seen an officer grab another officer by the shirt collar and push them up against a locker where one officer doesn't like another … but for it to come to this, wow."

And just like the shooting is having an impact on the community, it will ripple through the service as well.

"There'll be some choosing sides and stuff like that," Bryan said

"There's going to be guys who maybe thought the guy deserved to be shot, and there's going to be guys who hated the [shooter]."

Bryan said that undoubtedly, NRPS higher ups are delving into the situation today to see if people were aware of any acrimony between the two officers."

 

[Woodland]

Shooting of an on-duty police officer by a fellow cop in Niagara region shocks policing instructor | CBC News

Bryan said that undoubtedly, NRPS higher ups are delving into the situation today to see if people were aware of any acrimony between the two officers."

RSBM - the last line is something that has crossed my mind on this - it seems odd that this fight just erupted on that day between the two and resulted in a shooting - if it was a simmering situation, the leadership at NRPD should shoulder some of the blame for letting it simmer and putting the two in a remote spot together. The officer that was shot has a pretty bad history - another reason to scrutinize the leadership. Jmo.

 

[MsFacetious]

The one shot is also not a small man. If the one who shot him is smaller then a self defense case can definitely be made. With the history of the one who was shot I'm definitely giving the benefit of the doubt to the shooter on this one. He probably would have been terrified he'd be beaten to death and the guy would just get away with it like he always did!

 

[JDG]

IMO, the POLICE UNION is also complicit in this disaster. They no doubt helped him get through his various 'grievances' (his previous violent episodes) instead of protecting other officers and the general public.

 

[Woodland]

Just to complicate matters -

NIAGARA BLUES: NRP has history of corruption, brutality

Steroids, smuggling, theft, drugs, corruption and violence have been part of the NRP’s culture for decades. Here is a sampling.

NIAGARA BLUES: NRP has history of corruption, brutality

The article also has a statement from a Niagara police source to the Sun regarding Parker, the constable that was shot -

“Nobody, but nobody feels sorry for him,” one Niagara police source told The Toronto Sun.

 

[JDG]

^^ are we surprised? I'm not.
I had removed a statement about 'roid rage' from my earlier post.

 

[JDG]

The comments on that article are very interesting. I know two of the posters, both cops. Makes me go hmmm.

 

[JDG]

Constable No Neck was obviously on roids.

Cop culture needs to change and fast.

There is a lawsuit about to be launched in a related issue of cop culture.

Its very unsettling to know that if you call for help, one of these people may show up at your door in Lord- only- knows what kind of mood.

 

[mickey2942]

Supervision is at fault here. If they knew one was unstable, but kept him employed, that is a problem. Even with a union, common sense should prevail.

But it never does.

 

[Woodland]

Constable No Neck was obviously on roids.

Cop culture needs to change and fast.

There is a lawsuit about to be launched in a related issue of cop culture.

Its very unsettling to know that if you call for help, one of these people may show up at your door in Lord- only- knows what kind of mood.

Those that stay silent on this issue, whether other cops or those that work closely with them, are as much to blame. People that do speak up are often chastised as cop-haters etc when in fact all they/we want is improvement.

No one should be afraid to speak to police, but many are smart and do not. The fault falls squarely on the shoulders of LE and municipal leaders. Jmo.