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For the first time in history - two brother pimps (in NYC Federal Court) have been sentenced to life in prison. They come from a town in Mexico that is breeding pimps. Fathers teach their sons to be pimps and there is a pimp parade every year honoring pimps. The town is called Tenancingo. His brother Isaias Flores-Mendez was sentenced May 14, 2014 to life in prison also.

THIS IS FANTASTIC NEWS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON. FANTASTIC. Quite frankly, it's about time. It is the first time in history!!!!!


Bonifacio Flores-Mendez, 34, and Isaias Flores-Mendez, 41, have been ordered to forfeit approximately $1.7 million, and to pay $84,000 in restitution to a victim of his crime. Bonifacio was sentenced by U.S. District Judge Katherine B. Forrest yesterday morning. Isaias Flores-Mendez pled guilty to conspiring to engage in sex trafficking by force, fraud, and coercion on January 7, 2014, and was sentenced on May 14, 2014, to life in prison.
Here is the Press Release from the Dept. of Justice.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pressreleases/May14/FloresMendezSentencingPR.php?print=1


A copy of the indictment for Isais Flores-Mendez (brother of Bonifacio) can be found HERE.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pre...PR/Flores-Mendez, Isaias et al. Complaint.pdf
 
Wow....LISK seems to only go after girls who originate from far out of state to escort in NY.....someone who who works on a transit train or bus from north into the city?
 
It certainly fits LISK's MO of the constant change up between dismemberment, dumping whole bodies, suitcases, garbage bags...
 
twocuriouscats said:
Just wanted to note for reference later that this link refers to Sarah Goode, missing on LI (Medford) under mysterious circumstances June 2014.
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Sarah Goode... another gal who said she was being followed!

We have heard this before!
 
PickleChris said:
Please post a link to where you read that.
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On the WS link you posted. On the thread they were discussing SG's twitter account.

Here's one post but read a few of the posts before this, as well:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10616071&postcount=107"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - NY NY - Sarah Goode, 21, Medford, 6 June 2014[/ame]


https://twitter.com/spgoode12
 
twocuriouscats said:
Just wanted to note for reference later that this link refers to Sarah Goode, missing on LI (Medford) under mysterious circumstances June 2014.
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I've scanned Sarah's thread but didn't see any confirmation....was she possibly a sex worker?
 
ktgirl said:
I've scanned Sarah's thread but didn't see any confirmation....was she possibly a sex worker?
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No shes not. Sometimes a poster puts up a link for a missing person. Thats because there is still a killer out there.:seeya:
 
I am not allowed to tell anyone to do anything on this websleuths

but

I would appreciate it if you would (could) call
Speak of the New York State Assembly
Sheldon Silver and tell him to pass the TVJPA.

He publically said yesterday he has no intention of passing it.

It is a bill with improvements to the LAW for girls and boys
that have been prostituted.

The Senate already passed it
Now the Assembly Codes have to pass it

Once BOTH sides pass it - it becomes law.

His number is 518-445-3791.

All you have to do is call and say
Tell Speaker Silver to pass the TVJPA.

on a second note - there are 11 Human Trafficking Invtervention Courts
in NY State (Nassau, Suffolk, 5 in NYC - 1 for each borough and the remaining courts elsewhere in NY State)

THE law was changed last Sept/Oct for victims of Sex Trafficking.
These Human Trafficking Intervention Courts HELP THE VICTIMS of prostitution - if
Shannan
Maureen
Megan
Melissa
Amber
or Jessica
were arrested today - for prostitution - it would be a red flag for their
case to go to HTIC.

THE WORLD is changing because PEOPLE get involved to help these girls.

PLEASE - ya'll say all the time you would want to help the
GB4- and Shannan and Jessica

DO IT TODAY by helping the TVJPA get passed in Albany.

The calls have to be made today because the Assembly is going on
summer vaca tomorrow

Please - I can't tell you what to do ..

but I can.....urge you strongly to please call - for the sake of
children's human rights that have been trafficked.... that the
laws get changed for the integrity of their healing and human rights.

IF you do decide to call and the line is busy - just call back

All of us abolitionists are asking thousands of people to call - when you get thousands of people calling about an issue - Speaker Silver HAS to execute it. He HAS to. Because we've gone to the Press...

Sincerely - TKAM
 

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To Kill a Mockingbird said:
I am not allowed to tell anyone to do anything on this websleuths

but

I would appreciate it if you would (could) call
Speak of the New York State Assembly
Sheldon Silver and tell him to pass the TVJPA.

He publically said yesterday he has no intention of passing it.

It is a bill with improvements to the LAW for girls and boys
that have been prostituted.

The Senate already passed it
Now the Assembly Codes have to pass it

Once BOTH sides pass it - it becomes law.

His number is 518-445-3791.

All you have to do is call and say
Tell Speaker Silver to pass the TVJPA.

on a second note - there are 11 Human Trafficking Invtervention Courts
in NY State (Nassau, Suffolk, 5 in NYC - 1 for each borough and the remaining courts elsewhere in NY State)

THE law was changed last Sept/Oct for victims of Sex Trafficking.
These Human Trafficking Intervention Courts HELP THE VICTIMS of prostitution - if
Shannan
Maureen
Megan
Melissa
Amber
or Jessica
were arrested today - for prostitution - it would be a red flag for their
case to go to HTIC.

THE WORLD is changing because PEOPLE get involved to help these girls.

PLEASE - ya'll say all the time you would want to help the
GB4- and Shannan and Jessica

DO IT TODAY by helping the TVJPA get passed in Albany.

The calls have to be made today because the Assembly is going on
summer vaca tomorrow

Please - I can't tell you what to do ..

but I can.....urge you strongly to please call - for the sake of
children's human rights that have been trafficked.... that the
laws get changed for the integrity of their healing and human rights.

IF you do decide to call and the line is busy - just call back

All of us abolitionists are asking thousands of people to call - when you get thousands of people calling about an issue - Speaker Silver HAS to execute it. He HAS to. Because we've gone to the Press...

Sincerely - TKAM
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I called the Albany Office and it was busy - I serial dialed...
so I decided to call the NYC office
at
212 312 1420
and told them to give Sheldon Silver the message to
PASS THE TVJPA PLEASE

and that was that.

They put me right thru to Albany.

soo C'mon people - if you have a minute
time could be spent helping future victims of sex trafficking

The amendments in this bill are going to strengthen the Trafficking
Victims Protection & Justice Act that is already a law - its going
to make John's be charged with a FELONY for procuring
girls who have been prostituted.

That is only ONE of the changes... making this TVJPA law even toughter
 
To Kill a Mockingbird said:
I am not allowed to tell anyone to do anything on this websleuths

but

I would appreciate it if you would (could) call
Speak of the New York State Assembly
Sheldon Silver and tell him to pass the TVJPA.

He publically said yesterday he has no intention of passing it.

It is a bill with improvements to the LAW for girls and boys
that have been prostituted.

The Senate already passed it
Now the Assembly Codes have to pass it

Once BOTH sides pass it - it becomes law.

His number is 518-445-3791.

All you have to do is call and say
Tell Speaker Silver to pass the TVJPA.

on a second note - there are 11 Human Trafficking Invtervention Courts
in NY State (Nassau, Suffolk, 5 in NYC - 1 for each borough and the remaining courts elsewhere in NY State)

THE law was changed last Sept/Oct for victims of Sex Trafficking.
These Human Trafficking Intervention Courts HELP THE VICTIMS of prostitution - if
Shannan
Maureen
Megan
Melissa
Amber
or Jessica
were arrested today - for prostitution - it would be a red flag for their
case to go to HTIC.

THE WORLD is changing because PEOPLE get involved to help these girls.

PLEASE - ya'll say all the time you would want to help the
GB4- and Shannan and Jessica

DO IT TODAY by helping the TVJPA get passed in Albany.

The calls have to be made today because the Assembly is going on
summer vaca tomorrow

Please - I can't tell you what to do ..

but I can.....urge you strongly to please call - for the sake of
children's human rights that have been trafficked.... that the
laws get changed for the integrity of their healing and human rights.

IF you do decide to call and the line is busy - just call back

All of us abolitionists are asking thousands of people to call - when you get thousands of people calling about an issue - Speaker Silver HAS to execute it. He HAS to. Because we've gone to the Press...

Sincerely - TKAM
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I suspect that if any of those 6 had been hauled in front of some special court they would have not taken too kindly to it. Most of these women are not forced into that lifestyle, they do it for purely economic reasons. They can make a ton of money for relatively little effort, that is their motivation.

In any case, it is already illegal to buy, sell or act as a middleman in prostitution. To prosecute you still need evidence, and if they didn't have evidence before this law, they wouldn't have it afterwards either.

In Sweden, where they decriminalized prostitution and criminalized buying of sex, it has had little effect other than to move prostitution off the streets and indoors where things are more secret. And even then it isn't clear if the law had anything to do with that, since the advent of the internet had the same effect in other countries that don't have such laws. Convictions of clients across the entire country are under 100 a year (and apparently no one has gone to jail for it yet), even though there are thousands of prostitutes, and therefore hundreds of thousands of encounters a year. So basically a lot of posturing, rhetoric and political correctness, but not much has really changed.

The correct way to deal with prostitution is to criminalize the visible aspects of it (ie, what happens on the street), while legalizing the indoor trade where it can be monitored and regulated. And at the same time couple that with vigorous enforcement with regards to real trafficking (not the rhetoric people commonly use, describing all prostitution as "trafficking" when it isn't really), and implement social programs in those demographics where survival sex work is prevalent. If it was done that way the industry could be kept safe and under reasonable control, and we would see far fewer problems.

I doubt that would happen though, because generally people have a very simplistic attitude about prostitution, both with regards to the prostitutes themselves and their clients, that is based primarily on morality and ideology, not on the best interests of everyone directly involved.
 
Tugela said:
I suspect that if any of those 6 had been hauled in front of some special court they would have not taken too kindly to it. Most of these women are not forced into that lifestyle, they do it for purely economic reasons. They can make a ton of money for relatively little effort, that is their motivation.

In any case, it is already illegal to buy, sell or act as a middleman in prostitution. To prosecute you still need evidence, and if they didn't have evidence before this law, they wouldn't have it afterwards either.

In Sweden, where they decriminalized prostitution and criminalized buying of sex, it has had little effect other than to move prostitution off the streets and indoors where things are more secret. And even then it isn't clear if the law had anything to do with that, since the advent of the internet had the same effect in other countries that don't have such laws. Convictions of clients across the entire country are under 100 a year (and apparently no one has gone to jail for it yet), even though there are thousands of prostitutes, and therefore hundreds of thousands of encounters a year. So basically a lot of posturing, rhetoric and political correctness, but not much has really changed.

The correct way to deal with prostitution is to criminalize the visible aspects of it (ie, what happens on the street), while legalizing the indoor trade where it can be monitored and regulated. And at the same time couple that with vigorous enforcement with regards to real trafficking (not the rhetoric people commonly use, describing all prostitution as "trafficking" when it isn't really), and implement social programs in those demographics where survival sex work is prevalent. If it was done that way the industry could be kept safe and under reasonable control, and we would see far fewer problems.

I doubt that would happen though, because generally people have a very simplistic attitude about prostitution, both with regards to the prostitutes themselves and their clients, that is based primarily on morality and ideology, not on the best interests of everyone directly involved.
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I would disagree, I think given another choice the women involved in this case would have loved to have had another option than to prostitute themselves.

If you recall on the A&E Documentary Amber was heavily involved her heroin addiction; Melissa was having financial troubles and turned to it as a means of making money quickly and Maureen was involved within prostitution again because of the eviction notice on her house again along with other financial troubles.

Shannon Gilbert's partner was reported to have struck her so hard that she had to have a metal plate in her jaw - she was a victim/survivor of domestic violence.

The Swedish/Nordic model has been the only legal for prostitution that has actually made a remarkable difference in terms of reducing the number of Johns, pimps and human traffickers (source x, x & x) I can also provide academic research that supports this assertion upon request.

Whoever the perpetrator is, he is using systematic and institutionalised disenfranchisement of prostituted women to his advantage.
 
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