Casey, "Don't worry, I haven't said anything.."

[RevCrim]

THere is a search warrant being executed in that case right now...it's live at
http://www.wftv.com/video/18738968/index.html

Thanks ! I hope they get the person or people involved soon.
The similarities to other people in the sketch is alarming. I do not however, see any similarity to LA in the other sketch, as some do. I hope it's none of the people in this case involved.

 

[whatgivesq]

What could possibly be a bigger "secret" then the murder of an innocent 2 year old baby? As far as I am concerned nothing could be bigger ... except perhaps a murder of another innocent child ... I do not even want to let my mind go there tonight.

My thoughts exactly... and if there is something bigger, I cannot imagine....

 

[debs]

I lurk a lot, but even still, I'm afraid someone may have expressed the same thoughts I'm about to. If that is the case, please forgive me my redundancy.

First, I think KC's "Don't worry" statement could very well have been about the fantasy Zanny the Nanny kidnapping. It seems in keeping with the fact that the Anthony's did not tell LE about the "new" story and their claim that she is "mother of the year" for suffering in jail rather than giving up information about the kidnapping that could harm her child. I think it's patently insane that anyone would buy this story, but there may be evidence that the Anthony's did, in fact, believe her story--at first.

I think, early on, they would have believed anything of her other than that she killed her baby. I think they believed KC had sold Caylee, or given her away.

Re KC's words about "forgiving" the nanny, they were tossed in such an offhand manner, that whatever we make of the words themselves is lost. It's pretty evident that she doesn't give a crap about her parents forgiving her here. What she says just sounds like something a spoiled teenager would say to her mother during a fight.

Again, this statement was made on a jailhouse video not long after Casey had been arrested. the JBP nanny story came about, according to Lee, only after she was released, about 40 days later.

 

[cecybeans]

Thanks---------I'll test it. This is another pic of the sketch:

Well here's an idea. In your picture the person in the hoodie looks a bit like KC with no makeup on. The other composite that was published looks a lot like Lee.

I don't know who gave these descriptions to LE (if it was one person or more than one person) but what if the two of them were BOTH spotted at Jay Blanchard Park the night that Nicole G got mugged? Not because they were involved in her murder, but because they were in the area breaking into the UCF Zanaida G's office that same night to steal her computer? IIRC, the night Nicole went missing was the same night (June 10th) that ZG's office was broken into and her computer stolen. There is a very secluded parking area at the east end of JBP it looks like (I noticed it when studying the ping charts for June 17th and KC had a ping in this area then). It is right across the street almost from UCF. What if they parked at JBP and went on foot to UCF campus then returned on foot to their vehicle and were spotted and mistaken for suspects?

 

[RevCrim]

Well here's an idea. In your picture the person in the hoodie looks a bit like KC with no makeup on. The other composite that was published looks a lot like Lee.

I don't know who gave these descriptions to LE (if it was one person or more than one person) but what if the two of them were BOTH spotted at Jay Blanchard Park the night that Nicole G got mugged? Not because they were involved in her murder, but because they were in the area breaking into the UCF Zanaida G's office that same night to steal her computer? IIRC, the night Nicole went missing was the same night (June 10th) that ZG's office was broken into and her computer stolen. There is a very secluded parking area at the east end of JBP it looks like (I noticed it when studying the ping charts for June 17th and KC had a ping in this area then). It is right across the street almost from UCF. What if they parked at JBP and went on foot to UCF campus then returned on foot to their vehicle and were spotted and mistaken for suspects?

I believe that ZG's office was actually broken into somewhere from Friday night to Sunday night. Discover on Monday morning, and the murder took place on the 10th and body found on the 11th.

 

[cecybeans]

I believe that ZG's office was actually broken into somewhere from Friday night to Sunday night. Discover on Monday morning, and the murder took place on the 10th and body found on the 11th.

thanks for the reminder on the date - you're right about the computer theft being reported on that Monday. However a cellphone charger was found near Nicole's body and perhaps KC and LA were out that night trying to find it. Others have speculated that may have been the reason she kept saying her new phone wouldn't "keep a charge". They could have returned to the scene being unaware that a different crime was taking place. Just a thought.

 

[Searchfortruth]

With this family I think there are so many awful possibilities! I do think she died in the house that night.

Thankfully I've never been in this situation, but can anyone tell us how a toddler might react to watching her grandma choking her mother with grandpa there?

I am guessing, but think it may have caused Caylee great distress, and perhaps set Casey off to behave aggressively towards Caylee in return? Could she have possibly tried to interfere and stop gm and got injured in the process?

I agree there are many possibilities with this crew. I think that the fight on the 15th is likely to be the thing Casey didn't talk about. CA and GA have both denied it, although Lee said that it happened early on, even he is denying it now in the recent deposition. I don't see the big deal unless it was a factor in Caylee's death and it may very well be. If that fight was the reason KC flew off the handle and ended up kiling Caylee, I can see that this family would try very hard to keep it a secret. I hope that TL will testify truthfully about this fight since he probably got the inside scoop from Casey.

 

[Searchfortruth]

What could possibly be a bigger "secret" then the murder of an innocent 2 year old baby? As far as I am concerned nothing could be bigger ... except perhaps a murder of another innocent child ... I do not even want to let my mind go there tonight.

I had forgotten about George saying that, "if it goes on much longer things could come out", or something to that effect. I also wonder what on earth could come out that would be worse than Caylee being missing. What could come out ????

 

[Lexington]

It sounds as if this is something that C and G want to be kept secret. If I remember correctly KC said this in a light tone of voice, not angrily. As if it is not so important to her, but it would be to C and G. The only thing that I can come up with is the paternity of Caylee. Beyond that, I have no idea.

 

[lviola]

That comment keeps coming back to mind-
This family is absolutely hiding something ! With all that's already exposed, I can only think of a few things that they wanted want exposed.
KC has no problem throwing anyone under the bus-but she suddenly has loyalty to the very people she lies to daily and steals from.

When looking for a missing loved one, you tell everything you know.

For CA to say "WE" forgive you, for whatever you told them, with a, I dare you to, glare in her eyes. Does that mean GA & Ca? What could be so bad that the media hasn't already printed..
Or/ is the secret why the family is suddenly backing KC so strongly. If she keeps her mouth shut, they owe her. Is KC holding the secret over their heads?

1) Did one of them have an affair? Big deal ! Who cares? Only CA & GA.
CA's ego couldn't handle it, probably.

2) Was one or both of them physically abusive? We know there was alleged verbal abuse, per KC and LA. We know LA alleges physical abuse by CA to KC at least on one ocassion. CA denies it. This could be too embarrassing for her ego, and block her mother of the year award. We know KC had no respect for her parents at all. Why? And they still let her live there and supported her.

3) Was there incest. This would be a huge humilation if exposed. But why would KC cover for them? Or is she? Only letting them think so until the trial.

The very actions and the looks or lack of looking at one another is so obvious, that one has to wonder, just what are they hiding?
Just one more thing the A's are trying to keep from LE. Or did they? LE may already know.

Five months of the parents wanting to see KC and KC not asking to see her parents or La, makes one wonder what has KC told JB and is he planning to use the faimily secret against the family in court to try and justify KC's actions. Not that KC is innocent, but that KC is an innocent, because of the way she way raised. KC already told LE she was petrified of her Mother.

What a circus this trial will be- if a liar calls a liar a liar. I hope the judge is in excellent health.

I'm not so sure. It could be that CA was letting KC know they forgive her for anything she may have told LE(like if she confessed to killing Caylee).

 

[debs]

I'm not so sure. It could be that CA was letting KC know they forgive her for anything she may have told LE(like if she confessed to killing Caylee).

In that case, one would have thought they would have said "Casey, I hope you've done the right thing and told LE you killed Caylee. We're here for you and we want you to know we'll always love you. We're so sorry that we've all gotten to this place. We'll all get through it together."

But she didn't. She threw it at Casey just as soon as she found out that Casey had talked to the psychiatrist. "We forgive you for whatever you said" is not the same as what I put in the first paragraph. In fact, there should be no need for forgiveness for what one told a psychiatrist. There should be relief that Casey was able to find an outlet. Yet then Casey assures them she not only did not "let out" but that she would be holding her tongue for all time because they just "misconschtrue" whatever she says anyway. "We forgive you for whatever you said" in this situation becomes Cindy's protection for the future. In essence, she is denying the truthfulness of whatever was said before knowing what Casey said.

And I still want to know why. Why did she look for reassurance that Casey had not told someone something. Why did she believe Casey when Casey said so quickly "I haven't said anything, don't worry." Knowing how these two women operate, so much was said in this short two sentence exchange, I'm amazed one or both of them didn't walk away needing a change of underpants.

I believe Casey DID say something to someone, and I believe Cindy wants to know exactly what that is so she can CHOA.

 

[Oakley]

In that case, one would have thought they would have said "Casey, I hope you've done the right thing and told LE you killed Caylee. We're here for you and we want you to know we'll always love you. We're so sorry that we've all gotten to this place. We'll all get through it together."

But she didn't. She threw it at Casey just as soon as she found out that Casey had talked to the psychiatrist. "We forgive you for whatever you said" is not the same as what I put in the first paragraph. In fact, there should be no need for forgiveness for what one told a psychiatrist. There should be relief that Casey was able to find an outlet. Yet then Casey assures them she not only did not "let out" but that she would be holding her tongue for all time because they just "misconschtrue" whatever she says anyway. "We forgive you for whatever you said" in this situation becomes Cindy's protection for the future. In essence, she is denying the truthfulness of whatever was said before knowing what Casey said.

And I still want to know why. Why did she look for reassurance that Casey had not told someone something. Why did she believe Casey when Casey said so quickly "I haven't said anything, don't worry." Knowing how these two women operate, so much was said in this short two sentence exchange, I'm amazed one or both of them didn't walk away needing a change of underpants.

I believe Casey DID say something to someone, and I believe Cindy wants to know exactly what that is so she can CHOA.

I wonder if this has any connection to Lee's undying promise to CMA?

 

[RevCrim]

In that case, one would have thought they would have said "Casey, I hope you've done the right thing and told LE you killed Caylee. We're here for you and we want you to know we'll always love you. We're so sorry that we've all gotten to this place. We'll all get through it together."

But she didn't. She threw it at Casey just as soon as she found out that Casey had talked to the psychiatrist. "We forgive you for whatever you said" is not the same as what I put in the first paragraph. In fact, there should be no need for forgiveness for what one told a psychiatrist. There should be relief that Casey was able to find an outlet. Yet then Casey assures them she not only did not "let out" but that she would be holding her tongue for all time because they just "misconschtrue" whatever she says anyway. "We forgive you for whatever you said" in this situation becomes Cindy's protection for the future. In essence, she is denying the truthfulness of whatever was said before knowing what Casey said.

And I still want to know why. Why did she look for reassurance that Casey had not told someone something. Why did she believe Casey when Casey said so quickly "I haven't said anything, don't worry." Knowing how these two women operate, so much was said in this short two sentence exchange, I'm amazed one or both of them didn't walk away needing a change of underpants.

I believe Casey DID say something to someone, and I believe Cindy wants to know exactly what that is so she can CHOA.

Now the mystery grows----

In the Docs it was alleged that GA and CA argued how one or the other threw KC under the bus--WTHeck !!!!!
Definitely a secret here- Who was really fighting that night?

 

[passionflower]

It sounds as if this is something that C and G want to be kept secret. If I remember correctly KC said this in a light tone of voice, not angrily. As if it is not so important to her, but it would be to C and G. The only thing that I can come up with is the paternity of Caylee. Beyond that, I have no idea.

Either that or maybe the huge fight that night.
Then again, maybe something the 'family' was into......that would disgrace them???

 

[OneLostGrl]

OK...found this on:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/22/jesse-grund-caylee-anthon_n_152818.html


Meanwhile, documents showed Jesse Grund, Casey's ex-fiancé, told Sheriff's investigators Casey and Cindy got into a huge altercation the night before Caylee was last seen alive.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said. He said he was told this by Lee Anthony, Casey's brother.

OK...so maybe Lee is not lying in his depo with JM...In this statement Lee never says he broke up the fight...just that they had one.

I have this funny feeling Lee is playing both sides.. seeming to love and support his sister while secretly helping to fuel rumors, etc..

 

[OneLostGrl]

Either that or maybe the huge fight that night.
Then again, maybe something the 'family' was into......that would disgrace them???

Wasn't it Lee who said there was a fight that night, that his mom choked Casey, etc?

 

[OneLostGrl]

It was in one of the earlier jailhouse videos where George was by himself talking to Casey. He was attempting to get her to talk to someone other than Jose, without really attempting to sound like he was doing that.

I thinking George sees JoseB for what he is.

 

[RevCrim]

I find it interesting also that- AL claims KC told him that GA was not living at home on June 27th- First time I heard that-

 

[Avid Reader]

Now the mystery grows----

In the Docs it was alleged that GA and CA argued how one or the other threw KC under the bus--WTHeck !!!!!
Definitely a secret here- Who was really fighting that night?

I'm thinking CA may think GA threw KC under the bus by testifying for the Grand Jury and by telling investigators that he didn't like the smell in KC's car, etc.

On the other hand, GA may think that CA threw KC under the bus by calling 911 in the first place and blurting out that it smelled like a dead body in the (blank) car.

The fight itself: my money is on CA and KC.

However, all of this is MOO!

 

[billysmom]

Could it be that there was no Nigerian scam or GA gambling online? Instead it was George that blew tons of money on escort services? There were tons of escort sites on the A's computer. Maybe NOT KC searching them out?