CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #48 *ARREST*

[Hatch]

Hopefully PF doesn't have a "good friend" or "father figure" at the landfill company .....

So many people with knowledge before and after. If they name 2-3 more we will have The Dirty Dozen, and I am not talking cinnamon rolls .

 

[jewelsmac]

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Occultist fufilment for a desire to still control the victim. He had 4 and needed to get the 5th out of the venting. KK brought him the single. 4 in envelope he brought home plus 1 from KK equals five. Demonically possesed rat that he is. If they all DNA to KB only plea deal is a better cell. If they DNA to 5 separate unknown females LE has a whole new ball game.

It should be easy enough to test them for DNA if they are intact I would imagine. Wouldn't that have been done by now?

 

[Hatch]

Now that I have read so much, I think he picked cameras out ahead of time. He made sure he was there with the baby.

The visit to the bank: The "I just want to see if you can see the baby" doesn't vibe with me. It was more likely a alternative reason.

And the "you never saw us here" at the bank? Lets just get as blatant as you can be. That would attract my attention as a teller like bee on honey.

What is this about a white something or other in the back of his truck? It's there then it's not??

@Warwick7 I would of been dialing the phone before they left the bank.

 

[Hatch]

Because PF stated he was not in the area when CB asked.
The pick up also, is days later, so yeah, why didn't PF just pick it up.
Like the trash dump, PF sitting in the car, while 2 others emptied the load.
Wonder if RS helped here also.
Perhaps PF loves to sit in cars, and nurse his ulcer.
MOO.

Sweet Kelsey spent her last trip shopping to buy TPOS stomach meds, but she did it gladly and picked up a poinsettia , and things for a recipe. Being a Mom of Sons I hear their single friends wishing to find a good all American girl and not a bimbo, Kelsey was top crop and PF destroyed her. Makes me ill.

 

[Sweetsbeach]

It should be easy enough to test them for DNA if they are intact I would imagine. Wouldn't that have been done by now?

I thought they'd know by now with all the results they've released. They never stated they weren't hers. So maybe, just maybe the teeth do belong to KB and they are using this info behind the scenes to get PF to talk.

 

[Snowsnake]

It should be easy enough to test them for DNA if they are intact I would imagine. Wouldn't that have been done by now?

I think it has been done but sometimes it does takes a few months. DNA testing at the CBI level is not like TV.

 

[Hatch]

It seems extremely unlikely that he used such a loud device in Kelsey's duplex, but there are half a dozen other actions he did when committing this murder that are equally illogical. smh

A chainsaw is a poor choice to cut anything that is skin, tissue and blood, it gums the blade up. I know,personally from trying to behead a loved 15 yoa longhorn that passed, we wanted to have her mounted, chainsaw was bad idea! Everyone within 3 feet got splattered.

 

[jewelsmac]

I think it has been done but sometimes it does takes a few months. DNA testing at the CBI level is not like TV.

Yep, I know.

 

[Snowsnake]

A chainsaw is a poor choice to cut anything that is skin, tissue and blood, it gums the blade up. I know,personally from trying to behead a loved 15 yoa longhorn that passed, we wanted to have her mounted, chainsaw was bad idea!

Sawsall is the tool of choice but it will throw spatter. Seems to be a lot of spatter.

 

[Hatch]

They could be cattle teeth. JMO

Cattle teeth are huge under a 1/2 square.

 

[Hatch]

I don't think they'd be listed as "adult molars" if that was the case.

Very odd that he would have molars, in bags, stored in various areas of his and mom's home.

I just pray they all belong to one person . Not multiples.

 

[Hatch]

Yes, but that's why it doesn't make sense. If they were trying to act like KB was missing why act so obvious and suspicious? Between that and the bank incident I don't know what they were thinking. Imo

They got skiddish and told on themselves in so many ways, and who says " Oh yeah we were never here" that statement put a marker in the tellers brain.

 

[Hatch]

Before I forget, I'm sure you super sleuthers noticed that the Toyota Corolla of KB's that she had along with the truck at her townhome was owned jointly between her and PF and the Silverado truck was registered to CB IIRC.

KB and PF were in a relationship regardless of what PF tried to lead others to believe. Yes, I believe it had problems. I think PF was a bully and a manipulator of KB. Reading the statement of PF's behavior at the hospital after KB birth gives us insight to his unacceptable behavior. IMO

ETA: Had not has

Yes I noticed, it was stated it was registered to both KB and PF. Then further on in the warrants it states PF was paying her insurance and giving her 700 a month for a while after Baby K was born, I believe this was a statement from SF . I would bet a nickel he had quit paying for several months.

 

[Hatch]

I thought they were found in PF's truck, I wish I could hold info like a sponge!

My sponge is so full it is dripping out info

 

[Rockymtnmermaid]

Good morning! I've missed allot the last few days (flu + lupus = no good) so kindly forgive me if this has already been answered but in the warrants I saw nothing about searching the vehicles, home, property or phone records that belong to Robert Slagle. Is there some information about that anywhere? TIA!

The flu is definitely going around in the Springs. I had it last week and so have several other friends of mine and their kiddo's. I too suffer from Lupus. Sorry to get off topic, however I feel your pain. Hang in there NS!

 

[Kapua]

I am going to need to take vacation days just to catch up.

Sleuthers, what are we thinking about the weirdness that is the tooth collection?

Like I posted in the last thread, I inherited some teeth from older family members.

These teeth have gold crowns.

I still have them in an envelope, because I think they are gross and I am too embarrassed to deal with them, although I have gone as far as to Google "dental gold".

So IMHO, it's not THAT weird. Or, at least, it's not weird if you're not a murderer.

MOO, and all that.

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

Now that I have read so much, I think he picked cameras out ahead of time. He made sure he was there with the baby.

The visit to the bank: The "I just want to see if you can see the baby" doesn't vibe with me. It was more likely a alternative reason.

And the "you never saw us here" at the bank? Lets just get as blatant as you can be. That would attract my attention as a teller like bee on honey.

What is this about a white something or other in the back of his truck? It's there then it's not??

I also thought PF was intentionally creating his "perfect alibi" at Walmart. Like you said, he's practically looking up into the camera about as close to it as he can get, while wearing his "P - F" cap, no less! With his childish brain, he thinks he'll only be seen on the cameras he WANTS to be recorded by, and not seen on the ones he DOESN'T WANT to be recorded on--such as the cameras in KB's neighborhood.

It would seem he also wanted to be sure the bank had video of him and the baby. That must have been another part of his "perfect alibi." "I couldn't have been involved in KB's disappearance / murder. I was shopping, banking, taking care of my baby, and eating Thanksgiving dinner with my family." PF and SR likely were making sure the bank teller remembered PF and saved the video. They probably patted each other on the back for their cleverness in coming up with "you might as well tell her it's about a missing person" and "forget we were ever here." Too bad for PF they didn't spend a little time Googling info on cell phone towers and pings, or maybe he could have even asked his conveniently "estranged" brother, the LEO, for a mini-lesson on cell phone tracking. MOO.

 

[Noharg]

I find the bank visit by PF and RS bizarre. Since RS was most likely falling for PF’s lies, was this his way of showing his little buddy he had nothing to worry about? Or was PF this dumb and arrogant and checking out his own story?
And yeah, the teeth...I have no words.
All JMO and confusion.

 

[jewelsmac]

Like I posted in the last thread, I inherited some teeth from older family members.

These teeth have gold crowns.

I still have them in an envelope, because I think they are gross and I am too embarrassed to deal with them, although I have gone as far as to Google "dental gold".

So IMHO, it's not THAT weird. Or, at least, it's not weird if you're not a murderer.

MOO, and all that.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Artis said: ↑
All of you fabulous sleuthers, I don't know how you keep up. I haven't looked at the warrants, yet. Digesting what Chris Watts had to say, ATM. This is really time consuming. I can't imagine following lots of cases. I always have to stop and think about all of the information and I know big stuff must be in these warrants. Q: what was most shocking or enlightening about what has happened?

See Item 35, on Page Two, of this document: https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/04th_Judicial_District/Teller/caseofinterest/2018CR330/002/18-112 Execution.pdf

Not shocking/enlightening, but somewhat mysterious 1. to have a DNA box at all after only 1 offspring, 2. to have the box at PF's ranchette:
#19 Ancestry DNA Box with KB