CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #59

[Sweetsbeach]

How to Get a Power of Attorney From a Jail Inmate
ETA: this article is about parental rights of custodial parent vs. incarcerated parent - no idea why it says power of attorney

This article focuses on what a mother can do to prevent contact with the father - @gitana1 was involved in this discussion many months ago when CB first was awarded temporary custody of the baby. This custody situation really bothers me so am searching for proof that he will get no visitation or parental rights when he is convicted. That would be ideal IMO. And it goes without saying his family should also be cut off JMO (I wish I could find that thread, lots of really good links and discussion regarding this)

I remember some of those earlier convos here and it was alot of good info. I don't feel too worried about him being granted visitation. I can't find any examples of cases out of Colorado where a child was ordered to visit a parent convicted of murdering the other parent.
I will be sweating until he's found guilty. If baby K ever had to be around PF or any of his family that would be such a travesty of justice.

 

[MsBetsy]

I sure hope you're right! I'm hoping she gets the most, but I'm guessing she'll get the least She deserves so much more than probation. IMHO

I would think she would get the whole three years.
When will the judge sentence her?
Right after the trial?

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Somebody start plucking the crow.

HaHa. I wonder how it should be prepared. Fried, baked, boiled.

 

[susiQ]

No that wasn't a "point", lol, I guess I didn't phrase that right, I'm new to the case, I was just wondering how CB got the baby away from the Frazees. OK now I see you say they have interim custody, there must have been some court action to get the baby away.

Yes, LE took the baby from PF upon his arrest and she was placed in CPS. My apologies if I misunderstood your post

 

[susiQ]

I would think she would get the whole three years.
When will the judge sentence her?
Right after the trial?

I SO wish that would happen, but I'm not holding my breath

 

[PommyMommy]

No that wasn't a "point", lol, I guess I didn't phrase that right, I'm new to the case, I was just wondering how CB got the baby away from the Frazees. OK now I see you say they have interim custody, there must have been some court action to get the baby away.

Baby K was taken into protective custody at the time PF was arrested. She was then placed with the Berreth's and the custody case is ongoing. MOO

 

[Aydrianna523]

I'm just not so sure how he thought he could get away with it, killing her at the condo?

He also took a huge risk, trusting that Krystal would actually do the clean up. He didn't even worry for a moment that she wouldn't do her part? Did it not ever dawn on him, that maybe she might have had a conscious and would call LE instead of finishing the dirty deed of cleaning his mess?

His cockiness and confidence is just astounding to me.

SO TRUE. All I can think of is he didn't think there would be much to clean up and could take care of it himself. Seems he couldn't wait any longer as his rage got the 'best' of him. (Or his rage got the worst of him).

 

[MsBetsy]

Does it appear that he is trying to avoid,is it the camera angle or something blocking the camera that is prevent front views of PF?

I'm wondering if he is carrying the baby in front of him in one of the last shots.
Many don't believe the baby was in the Townhouse at the time of the murder.

I'm still not convinced he knew at that time that the neighbors camera captured him at the door.
I think he may have found out from police when they questioned him.

Imo

 

[enelram]

I'm just not so sure how he thought he could get away with it, killing her at the condo?

He also took a huge risk, trusting that Krystal would actually do the clean up. He didn't even worry for a moment that she wouldn't do her part? Did it not ever dawn on him, that maybe she might have had a conscious and would call LE instead of finishing the dirty deed of cleaning his mess?

His cockiness and confidence is just astounding to me.

But KK did not call LE. LE went after her when she was partying in Vegas w/ a bunch of
women friends. And she was unco-operative- played dumb initially. Sorry KK does not
deserve any medals.

 

[PommyMommy]

SO TRUE. All I can think of is he didn't think there would be much to clean up and could take care of it himself. Seems he couldn't wait any longer as his rage got the 'best' of him. (Or his rage got the worst of him).

BBM And then those darn baby wipes didn't do the trick. MOO

 

[PommyMommy]

Breeanna Jent on Twitter
More from Day 2 of testimony in the #PatrickFrazee trial: Investigator says a man, who he claims is Patrick Frazee, was captured 11 times on a neighbor's surveillance camera at #KelseyBerreth's Woodland Park townhome the day she went missing. Camera spotted Patrick Frazee at Berreth's place 11 times on day of alleged killing, investigator testifies
8:10 AM - 5 Nov 2019

 

[susiQ]

I'm just not so sure how he thought he could get away with it, killing her at the condo?

He also took a huge risk, trusting that Krystal would actually do the clean up. He didn't even worry for a moment that she wouldn't do her part? Did it not ever dawn on him, that maybe she might have had a conscious and would call LE instead of finishing the dirty deed of cleaning his mess?

His cockiness and confidence is just astounding to me.

BBM
KK looked pretty confident in that Sonic video too, primping herself for her "lover" I think he had NO doubt she would keep her end of the "bargain." This was a conspiracy with two willing partners, regardless of what she would like us to believe now. JMHO

 

[Oregon]

There's NO WAY on this earth, I would place baby K into the hands of ANY private daycare, EVER. I suspect the Berreth's feel the same way. Just sayin'.

I am thinking more like a private vetted in home provider.

 

[10ofRods]

Then why the tote?

Why the discolored hay/cadaver dog hit at Nash?

He could have just as easily been spotted on camera moving multiple trash bags to his vehicle, as he could have been spotted making 2 trips with a tote.

A tote we know he had.

To keep the plastic bags of body parts in, while transporting them. Pretty sure hunters use their totes this way (and fishermen). I'm guessing the tote was standard operating equipment for his cowboy truck. Comes in handy for just this type of situation.

Probably got pretty messy anyway, given PF's inability to pay attention to details. Panic and irritability would play a role too. If he opened and closed that tote a few times while disposing of body and evidence, he probably transferred blood to the outside of the tote (but how enough blood got outside the tote to actually stain the hay, I dunno, maybe he spilled it? Can we picture him looking inside for any reason? I know I can).

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

NOV 4, 2019
Bank manager: Patrick Frazee asked for surveillance video of himself from day Kelsey Berreth was last seen
[...]

It was Dec. 5, 2018 — three days after Cheryl Berreth called police and said she hadn’t heard from her daughter in days.

“That afternoon, I was on the teller line — we were a little short-staffed — and two gentlemen approached me and asked if one of my employees was there that day,” Patricia Key, the manager of the ENT Credit Union in Woodland Park, said.

[...]

“Once we were in my office, Mr. Frazee asked if he could see the surveillance or video surveillance from our ATM from Nov. 22,” Key said.

[...]

During her conversation with him, Key said she could access the surveillance video from his trip to the bank on Thanksgiving.

“Mr. Frazee asked me if I could get those things for him and I said I could, he said he was needing to have a timeline for that time because he and his fiance had broken up the day before, he was getting together with her to see about custody for their child, and he needed to set a timeline for where he was the day before,” Key said on the witness stand, adding that Frazee told her his fiancee had gone missing.

“I said ‘if you don’t know when she went missing, how will this timeline help you?’” Key said. “He said ‘well, exactly.”

[...]

That same day, Key said she had spoken to police, who had asked her to look up Kelsey Berreth’s debit card history. The last transaction was on Nov. 22, 2018. That’s the only day she said Frazee asked for surveillance footage showing his whereabouts.

Key said Frazee asked for his bank history that day as well, and looked at surveillance video and photos that showed him at the ATM with his one-year-old daughter in the front seat.

[...]

“What he said was ‘all I know was that after she was seen at Safeway, she’s talked to her mother on Sunday, and no one’s seen her since,’” Key said. “So I stopped the conversation and said ‘if she talked to her mother after Thanksgiving, then she wasn’t missing on Thanksgiving. It was very peculiar to me.

“He was very abrupt and said ‘she didn’t talk to her mother on the Sunday after Thanksgiving’ and I was thinking ‘you just said that,” Key said. “It was just a very strange interaction there.”

[...]

David Felis said Frazee came to the Woodland Park Verizon Store on Dec. 11, 2018 with his one-year-old daughter.

“When he came in, he seemed very nervous, and kind of sketchy, paranoid and was looking around a lot,” Felis said. “One of the first things he told me, one of the first things he said to me was ‘don’t believe what they’re saying about me.’ I said ‘I don’t know who you are, I treat all my customers the same.’”

[...]

Felis said Frazee seemed “particularly concerned” about the security of his cellphone account, and asked if it was possible to gather information from a phone that was destroyed. Felis said Frazee kept asking about the “other phone on his account” and tried to change the PIN on that device so he could access its data.

[...]​

Wow. The level of moronicity is off the chart.

 

[crhedBngr]

Day 3 of the Trial.
Who's Here For Kelsey?

Present!

 

[susiQ]

HaHa. I wonder how it should be prepared. Fried, baked, boiled.

Since you're asking, how about deep fried?

 

[Ultra Violet]

I am thinking more like a private vetted in home provider.

Or how about a close family member like one of Kelsey’s cousins that we saw interviewed on the news? I feel like they would have brought someone with them that baby K was already familiar with to be with here when grandparents or uncle is not available.

jmo

 

[Hatfield]

Breeanna Jent on Twitter
More from Day 2 of testimony in the #PatrickFrazee trial: Investigator says a man, who he claims is Patrick Frazee, was captured 11 times on a neighbor's surveillance camera at #KelseyBerreth's Woodland Park townhome the day she went missing. Camera spotted Patrick Frazee at Berreth's place 11 times on day of alleged killing, investigator testifies
8:10 AM - 5 Nov 2019

Im curious about the 11 times too. Wish we could know the times of each one of the 11 times.

Sometimes security cameras are setup to trigger when motion detects. So its possible that some of the 11 times could have been him going in and out around the same time. Or some could be totally different times. We really dont know unless times are listed for each one of the 11 sightings of him on video.

 

[susiQ]

I'm wondering if he is carrying the baby in front of him in one of the last shots.
Many don't believe the baby was in the Townhouse at the time of the murder.

I'm still not convinced he knew at that time that the neighbors camera captured him at the door.
I think he may have found out from police when they questioned him.

Imo

I was one of those that thought perhaps he had lied to KK about where the baby was and that he may have handed her off to someone at Walmart. After Sam's outlining when PF was captured, I am convinced baby K was in the condo.

I'm just getting ready for my "deep fried" crow