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BREAKING: Taiwan reports 1st death from coronavirus

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“The patient has no recent overseas travel history and no known contact with COVID-19 patients, Minister of Health and Welfare Chen Shih-chung (陳時中), who heads the CECC, said, adding that the authorities are still working to determine how he became infected.”

Taiwan reports first death from coronavirus infection - Focus Taiwan

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Taiwan reports first death, toll at 1,665: Virus update

Who’s evacuating who at link

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Talks on 2nd flight to evacuate Taiwanese fro... | Taiwan News
Minister of Health and Welfare Chen Shih-chung said plan to evacuate Taiwanese remaining in Hubei has been stalled by Chinese government excuses
2020/02/16

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Taiwan Bars Children of Taiwanese-Chinese Couples From Repatriation Amid Coronavirus Outbreak
The reversal of an earlier decision to allow the children entry to Taiwan was supported by DPP legislators and revealed a divide among Taiwanese people.
 
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Hi, thanks, yeah I saw that new channel, (that’s why I only posted the Good Morning Britain video so far from 3 days ago)...I’m still catching up, was looking for some MSM video links, good to know the Abels are giving an update today on GMB.

ETA:@dixiegirl1035 Help I’m stuck in YouTube Land and can’t get out

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Fears mount over new coronavirus case in Westerdam cruise ship thought to be infection free
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6e9a74-4f6d-11ea-bf44-f5043eb3918a_story.html
Feb. 16, 2020 at 4:12 a.m.

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Death toll from novel coronavirus rises

“Almost 1,700 people have now died from the novel coronavirus as the number of people diagnosed with the respiratory illness rose to 68,500, officals at China’s National Health Commission reported Sunday.”

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“However, they said that more than 9,400 patients had also been cured and discharged.

Health commission spokesman Mi Feng told a news conference on Sunday that China's campaign again the virus was beginning to show results.

"The effect of the coronavirus controls is appearing," he said.”

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U.S. to evacuate Americans from quarantined cruise ship in Japan

American passengers quarantined aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan are to be evacuated on Sunday, according to a letter sent to them by the U.S. embassy in Tokyo.

The embassy also reiterated that the U.S. government recommends that the 400 or so American citizens disembark from the cruise ship and return to the U.S.

It said the U.S. government had chartered flights that will depart Yokohama, where the ship is docked, to the United States on Sunday.

“These charter flights are the only opportunity for eligible passengers to fly to the United States until March 4, 2020, at the earliest,” the letter added. “This date is 14 days after the remaining passengers are expected to depart the ship on Feb. 19.”

Japanese officials said the quarantine aboard the ship is supposed to end on Feb. 19.

The embassy added that no symptomatic or infected passengers will be allowed to board the chartered flights.

Upon return to the U.S., those who choose to take the chartered flights will be quarantined at Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, California or Lackland Air Force Base near San Antonio, Texas for 14 days.

Those who choose to stay behind on the ship would face “potential constraints that would impact return to the United States in the next two weeks,” the embassy added.“

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Coronavirus Live Updates: After Hundreds Leave Cruise Ship, American Passenger Tests Positive

  • After hundreds disembarked from a cruise ship, an American tested positive for coronavirus.
  • The rate of new cases appears to slow, even as the death toll continues to rise.
  • More cases are reported on the cruise ship docked in Japan, as Americans’ departure nears.
  • Xi began fighting the virus earlier than previously known, a newly published speech indicates.
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“Under fire for its initial response to the coronavirus epidemic, China’s authoritarian government appears to be pushing a new account of events that presents President Xi Jinping as taking early action to fight the outbreak that has convulsed the country.

But in doing so, the authorities have acknowledged for the first time that Mr. Xi was aware of the epidemic nearly two weeks before he first spoke publicly about it — and while officials at its epicenter, in the city of Wuhan, were still playing down its dangers.

That new account risks drawing the president, China’s most powerful leader in decades, directly into questions about whether top officials did too little, too late.

In the newly released internal speech that Mr. Xi delivered on Feb. 3, when the epidemic had already spiraled into a national crisis, the Chinese president said he had “issued demands about the efforts to prevent and control” the coronavirus on Jan. 7, during a meeting of the Politburo Standing Committee, the highest council of the Communist Party, whose sessions are typically very secretive.

In the speech, he also said he had authorized the unprecedented lockdown of Wuhan and other cities beginning on Jan. 23.

“I have at every moment monitored the spread of the epidemic and progress in efforts to curtail it, constantly issuing oral orders and also instructions,” Mr. Xi said of his more recent involvement.

Mr. Xi’s advisers may have hoped that publishing the speech would dispel speculation about his recent retreat from public view and reassure his people that he can be trusted to lead them out of the epidemic.

But the speech could expose Mr. Xi to criticism that he didn’t treat the initial threat urgently enough, and make it difficult for him to shift blame onto local officials.”

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Article from Feb. 14, 2020:

China’s Doctors, Fighting the Coronavirus, Beg for Masks

Getting stuck in Youtube land sounds better than my stuck in Google Scholar reading papers that are Greek to me except the Abstract/Conclusions and some graphs. I have learned quite a bit though re projections of outbreak growth (all over the place, but I see where the media is getting their info from now... they pick one projection and go with it) and why so many hospital infections (perfect conditions when merely taking samples for testing puts you right in front of the patient to get infected) and how CT is needed due to false negatives. Still nothing as to papers on the Princess outbreak yet.

That information is outdated above as right after the 10:00 am deadline the US folks had to tell the Embassy and give them info... and after that deadline, at 10:27 am they released there were 70 new positives on board, and everyone will have to stay an ADDITIONAL 14 days. Wonder if that complainer from the US who didn't want to leave by plane made a choice he is happy with now as if he didn't change his mind, he's in that petri dish incubator for another 14 days vs. flying back to do his 14 days in the US.
 
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“The patient has no recent overseas travel history and no known contact with COVID-19 patients, Minister of Health and Welfare Chen Shih-chung (陳時中), who heads the CECC, said, adding that the authorities are still working to determine how he became infected.”

Taiwan reports first death from coronavirus infection - Focus Taiwan

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Taiwan reports first death, toll at 1,665: Virus update

Who’s evacuating who at link

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Talks on 2nd flight to evacuate Taiwanese fro... | Taiwan News
Minister of Health and Welfare Chen Shih-chung said plan to evacuate Taiwanese remaining in Hubei has been stalled by Chinese government excuses
2020/02/16


I wonder which airport they are going out of? Per google, Major closest airports to Yokohama

The nearest international airport to Yokohama is Pohang Airport (KPO / RKTH). Distance from Pohang Airport to Yokohama is 923.8 km.

The nearest Domestic airport to Yokohama is Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND / RJTT) which is 22.2 km.

I'll be peeking into flight aware later today to see if it's followed. I understand that they are using military planes this time, vs. the charters they did previously with ... forgot who was used before.
 
I wonder which airport they are going out of? Per google, Major closest airports to Yokohama

The nearest international airport to Yokohama is Pohang Airport (KPO / RKTH). Distance from Pohang Airport to Yokohama is 923.8 km.

The nearest Domestic airport to Yokohama is Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND / RJTT) which is 22.2 km.

I'll be peeking into flight aware later today to see if it's followed. I understand that they are using military planes this time, vs. the charters they did previously with ... forgot who was used before.

This is all so infinite and multidimensional, it’s virtually impossible to keep up with everything that is going on in Asia and around the world with this. I’m only posting a fraction of articles and snippets just for reference to keep up. Hoping to be caught up in the thread this weekend as I look forward to reading everyone’s posts.

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ETA:

Catching up on more headlines so I don’t fall hopelessly behind:

Yikes, BBC:

Coronavirus: UK conference attendees warned over case
14 February 2020
Hundreds warned over coronavirus after bus event

BBM:

“Health officials have contacted hundreds of conference attendees in London, after it emerged one of them was later diagnosed with coronavirus.

The person, who has not been identified, was at the UK Bus Summit at the QEII Conference Centre last week.

Two Labour MPs who were also at the conference said they were well but cancelling public engagements until 20 February as a precaution.

So far, nine people in the UK have tested positive for the virus.”

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Hong Kong couple hospitalised after man tests positive for coronavirus

Coronavirus: husband and wife hospitalised after man becomes Hong Kong’s 57th confirmed patient
  • Pair live in Ming Kung Mansion in Taikoo Shing
  • 54-year-old becomes city’s 57th confirmed case after testing positive at Pamela Youde Nethersole Eastern Hospital on Sunday

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Coronavirus: Hong Kong airport suffers worst January in five years as officials blame protests and deadly bug for poor traffic
  • In January, 5.7 million passengers passed through airport, down 11.7 per year on year, while the amount of cargo handled fell by 10.4 per cent
  • It handled about 60 per cent fewer passenger flights this weekend, while experts say the road to recovery will be longer than that during Sars
Airport suffers worst January in five years amid protests, coronavirus

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More cruise ship cases: 70 more coronavirus cases were confirmed on board the quarantined Diamond Princess cruise liner in Yokohama, Japan, bringing total infections to 356. A flight evacuating US passengers is due to depart later Sunday -- those on board will face another quarantine once they land.”

Coronavirus news and live updates: More than 69,000 cases globally - CNN
Updated 8:28 a.m. ET, February 16, 2020
 
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I saw something horrifying in a “1918 Spanish Flu”’documentary on YT the other night. A much worse strain mutated/emerged after the first and second “waves”, iirc. The symptoms were so horrific I had to turn it off.

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BBM:



This is exactly my assessment at the stores as well, no one really seems to care about any kind of germs.

I stood by the door at the grocery store wiping my cart handle and observing. Many people passed me without wiping their cart handles.

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BBM:


Oh oh...looking for latest stream from the Abels, will post if I see them.
Been using instacart delivery for groceries for awhile. Will continue....at least I only have to worry about being near 1 person at my door.
 
COVID-19 UPDATE: Visitor To Hawaii Tests Positive
Feb 14, 2020

“Hawaiʻi County Civil Defense issued an updated COVID-19 information message on Friday, announcing that someone who visited the State of Hawaiʻi in January and February has come down with the coronavirus since returning to Japan.

The Department of Health Reports:

  • A visitor who exhibited cold-like symptoms while on Oahu from February 3 to 7 was diagnosed with coronavirus (COVID-19) upon his return to Japan on February 8.
  • The visitor was on Maui from January 28 to February 3 and did not display any symptoms.
  • The State is still seeking more details on his exact itinerary including which places he visited and flights he was on.
  • State officials are also working to identify who else might have had close contact with the man and determine whether they are showing any signs of illness.”
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Could The COVID-19 Spur A Revolution In Vaccine Development?
Feb 16, 2020

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Disease modelers gaze into computers to see future of Covid-19 - STAT
FEBRUARY 14, 2020

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South Korea Tracks Virus Patients’ Travels—and Publishes Them Online
Health authorities let public check if they crossed paths with those infected; legal powers and technology allow them to pin down people’s movements
Updated Feb. 16, 2020 8:43 am ET
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Utah woman on quarantined cruise ship transported to Japanese hospital, tests positive for COVID-19

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‘This is a time for facts, not fear,’ says WHO chief as COVID-19 virus spreads

15 February 2020

“The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) on Saturday cautioned against panic over COVID-19 but also urged governments to step up their efforts to prepare for the virus, saying “it’s impossible to predict which direction this epidemic will take.””

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““We have a choice. Can we come together to face a common and dangerous enemy? Or will we allow fear, suspicion and irrationality to distract and divide us?” the WHO chief asked.

He said that in our fractured and divided world, health was one of the few areas in which international cooperation offered the opportunity for countries to work together for a common cause.

“This is a time for facts, not fear. This is a time for rationality, not rumours. This is a time for solidarity, not stigma,” Mr. Tedros concluded.”
 
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Per Abels 5:30 pm video #54 (4 hours ago)

  • Youtube is not allowing anyone to monetize videos about the outbreak or virus or quarantine now per their policy.
  • US has offered UK help to extract the folks on the ship.
  • Redo on time to get off.. the captain just announced that those who test negative would be able to get off on the 19th onwards. (that is 180 degrees MOO from 12 hours ago as!)
  • US came with "big army trucks" to pick up US folks and Abels think the plane came into the US airbase, not a commercial airport (that means no following on flight aware unless it shows up on March AFB location?) ETA at 55 minutes... we now know they are Kallita airlines and are flying out of normal Tokoyo airport.. see post below
  • They got roast beef sandwich and quiche for lunch (yeah! they were so tired of "foreign food")
  • Hospital rooms for folks taken off may be 4 hours away from where they are, they don't wanna go and don't want to be separated.
  • K49586 /CKS9586 Kalitta Air/747/Estimated arrival Haneda, Tokyo 21:43 GMT +9 Sunday someone posted on their feed that they think is the US flight...fact that David saw first hand the military trucks come for the US folks ?)
  • During live feed, the guest services announced luggage pickup for the Americans would be in 25 minutes.
  • They said "how great America was for doing this, it couldn't be easy but they did it".
I'll ETA for 60 minutes on this post as I'm halfway through their video
 
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Per Abels 5:30 pm video #54 (4 hours ago)

  • Youtube is not allowing anyone to monetize videos about the outbreak or virus or quarantine now per their policy.
  • US has offered UK help to extract the folks on the ship.
  • Redo on time to get off.. the captain just announced that those who test negative would be able to get off on the 19th onwards. (that is 180 degrees MOO from 12 hours ago as!)
  • US came with "big army trucks" to pick up US folks and Abels think the plane came into the US airbase, not a commercial airport (that means no following on flight aware unless it shows up on March AFB location?)
  • They got roast beef sandwich and quiche for lunch (yeah! they were so tired of "foreign food")
  • Hospital rooms for folks taken off may be 4 hours away from where they are, they don't wanna go and don't want to be separated.
I'll ETA for 60 minutes on this post as I'm halfway through their video

BBM. I couldn’t love this more.
 
Planes believed to be American charters land in Tokyo

From CNN’s Matt Rivers and Mick Krever in Tokyo

Two Boeing 747 charter airplanes believed to be for Americans being evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship today have just landed in Tokyo.

The two planes from Kalitta Air touched down at Haneda Airport at 8:30 a.m. ET.
 
Planes believed to be American charters land in Tokyo

From CNN’s Matt Rivers and Mick Krever in Tokyo

Two Boeing 747 charter airplanes believed to be for Americans being evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship today have just landed in Tokyo.

The two planes from Kalitta Air touched down at Haneda Airport at 8:30 a.m. ET.

Thanks for that info, found them. I guess they are flying out from a commercial airport, using Kalitta Air (recall from first thread... Kalitta air has contract with the US Department of Defense) as they did before. I guess the military trucks that met them at the ship were for escort from ship to airport.

Good to go!

Source: Flight Aware. One is expected to leave in one hour 39 minutes to Travis Air Force Base.

Kalitta.JPG
Kalitta Air 9584 (e.d. 8 hr 43 min flight flew in From Hartsfield - Jackson International airport, Atlanta GA non-stop)
CKS9584 / K49584
Landed 1 hour 2 minutes ago

Kalitta2.JPG

Kalitta Air 585
CKS585 / K4585
Expected to depart in 1 hour 39 minutes
 
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This video says they knew about CV a week before Dr. LW was silenced (you guys probably already knew that):

Al Jazeera English / 17 minutes ago:
Controversy over Chinese government response to coronavirus

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BBM. I couldn’t love this more.

Yes, the US also offered to help the Canadians evacuate with extra room on their planes. :)
 
Once again, I am thankful that I decided that cruises were not for us any longer. A lot of elderly and disabled people go on cruises, as it is an easier mode of travel.

But, getting onto military trucks, is definitely not easy for disabled or elderly. And the thought of traveling for four hours to a hospital while ill is really going to be difficult for some people, especially if they are elderly.

What a miserable "vacation".

I definitely think that conferences should be delayed, they rescheduled the technology conference in Las Vegas that is usually held in January. That conference is huge.
 
That’s a really good question, and I have no idea what the long term answer would be, but I think they would have to keep the statistics separate for awhile.

While on the subject of the flu and data, I have to say that all of the recent headline comparisons of the flu and the COVID-19 virus have really bothered me lately. I know that, year to date, the flu has caused more deaths globally (or at least based on the reported numbers from China), but if we take a look at the “worst case scenario” based on guesstimates, this virus has the potential to make the flu look like child’s play.
I honestly don’t have much faith in any of the numbers that are being published right now. Too many unknowns, too many variables, inaccurate data being reporting, lack of test kits, etc,...

So, out of curiosity, I ran some quick numbers to see what the “worst case scenario” would look like based on the current high end assumptions.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE FOLLOWING IS A STATISTICAL WORST CASE SCENARIO. THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY VARIABLES CURRENTLY IN PLAY FOR ANYONE TO PROJECT OR FORECAST WHAT THE END RESULTS WILL BE. THIS POST IS INTENDED FOR AWARENESS - NOT TO SOUND ANY ALARMS OR TO RAISE FEAR AND ANXIETY.
I’ll also add that I believe the actions and precautions being put in place by the WHO, and most world governments, will have a major impact on the final outcome. By implementing control measures, the number of potential fatalities will be greatly reduced, even in the event of a global pandemic. With that being said - the rest of this post is a high level snapshot of the worst case scenario using only raw data and excludes any policies aimed at controlling the variables.

WARNING!!
SCARY NUMBERS AHEAD!!

I started with looking up the number of deaths attributed to the flu on an annual basis and found the following from the CDC that was published in December of 2017

CDC Press Releases

From that article:
“According to new estimates published today, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza-related respiratory illnesses each year, higher than a previous estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 and based on a robust, multinational survey.”


From there, I used numbers posted throughout this thread to come up with the following:

Somewhere upthread, someone posted an article wherein one of the scientist predicted that if the quarantines fail, he believed 60% to 80% of the world population could get infected.
The range on the assumptions of the mortality rate seem to be running between 2% & 5% (I think 3% is the most widely published number right now, and I have seen estimates that are below 2%, as well as estimates well above 5%)
It’s obvious the numbers are all over the board, but I opted to go with 80% infected & 5% mortality rate for the worst possible outcome.

Current global population is approximately 7.8 billion people.

World Population Clock: 7.8 Billion People (2020) - Worldometer

80% would be 6.24 billion people

5% of 6.24 billion = 312 million people

What I don’t know is how long it is projected to take for 80% of the population to catch the virus, so I can’t say that this would be an annual number. Irregardless, 312 million, IMO, would be a MUCH greater issue than the flu, even if the flu runs at the high end of 646,000 deaths annually.
To put this in perspective, the current population of the US is currently 331 million.

United States Population (2020) - Worldometer


Even at the lower end, the number is staggering. 60% world population infected @ 2% mortality rate = 93.6 million!

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND - we really don’t know where this is all going to end up. Historically speaking, several very devastating viruses have ran their course in very short order and just kind of fade away - hopefully this one will do the same. However, there have also been several historical pandemics that had a large impact on the world population.

IMOO - My point being, although it is statistically true that the flu is CURRENTLY more dangerous than the COVID-19 virus, the POTENTIAL danger of the COVID-19 virus should not be downplayed.
Comparing CURRENT NUMBERS should be used to raise awareness of the impact the flu has on our world, and knowing that the CURRENT NUMBERS reflect that the flu is currently larger than COVID-19 should be used to calm nerves. However, IMO, those who report on the matter are misrepresenting the true scale of this event if they don’t simultaneously bring awareness to the POTENTIAL global impact of the COVID-19 virus.

The COVID-19 virus is new - it is in its infancy. To directly compare it to the flu at this point is to compare apples to oranges.
To me, it’s like comparing an adult black bear to a baby grizzly. It wouldn’t be ethical to run a headline of “Black Bears are Deadlier than Grizzlies” based on such a comparison! Yet, here we are...

Those possibilities are why there are WHO videos, and why most countries are taking it seriously.

Right now, outside of Hubei, if you fall ill, it's more likely to be a cold or flu. A lot more likely. People can die from the flu, it's not a totally non-serious condition in itself. But right now, you're more likely to have a cold or flu causing a cough or fever, and this month you are more likely to die in a car crash than of Covid-19.

And we desperately need for it to stay that way.
 
I’m wondering this morning just how soon the WHO will officially declare this to be a pandemic. IMO, it’s time!

With all of the cases that continue to be reported worldwide, to believe that infected individuals haven’t fallen through the cracks of the quarantines would be wishful thinking at best. I will be absolutely amazed if we don’t see localized outbreaks worldwide within the next few weeks (I’m guessing sooner rather than later).
Trying to chase down all individuals that an infected person has had contact with in the general public is difficult at best. All it takes is one infected person to attend a large sporting event or social gathering. Or to forget one detail of where they have been while infected.
I can’t help but think about the early precautions that were being taken as people were arriving on return flights from China. Their temperatures were being taken and anyone without a fever was considered safe. In hindsight, with what we know now, I think most of us on this thread would agree that it wasn’t nearly enough. This particular virus had found various ways to go undetected in the early stages, and for a greater period of time compared to its relatives. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is, to contain something, you first have to know that it’s there.
Containment through quarantine methods still provides the best opportunity to slow the progression of the outbreak, but IMOO, total containment has failed. IMO, we’re in the midst of a pandemic that has yet to be officially recognized.

I’ve been one of the outspoken “alarmists” on this thread, but I’m really more of a realist. I will again suggest that everyone do at least a little to prepare. Panic, fear, and chaos will more than likely be worse than the virus itself. Take the precautions you can, but don’t be one of the panic stricken if a global breakout does occur. Take extra precautions if you have underlying health issues. But here is the reality for most of us based on what’s being reported thus far....

  • This virus spreads very rapidly, but if we look at the number of confirmed cases in China, the percentage is extremely low compared to the 60 million people currently under quarantine. Even with under reported numbers, this means that either only a relatively small percentage has been infected, OR the majority of the cases have produced mild symptoms.
  • If by chance you do get infected, it currently appears that you have a 95% - 98% chance of recovery. Those are VERY GOOD ODDS!
  • Science these days is absolutely amazing - the odds are in humanities favor that a vaccine will be discovered or that new drugs will be created to help fight the disease.
  • I’ve always believed that a viral pandemic could/would decimate the human population, but unless there are major mutations that make this virus more deadly - this is not the one that will have a huge impact on the world population.
  • The world as a whole will go through an “adjustment period”, and though this virus (again - in my opinion) is much worse than the flu, we have to keep in mind that the flu IS a very deadly virus, but we have learned to live with it and do what we can to minimize it.
Getting through the adjustment period is going to be the difficult part. A little preparedness and continued education on the subject are key. A little bit of fear will keep us alert and will ensure that we stay focused on our precautions. Panic and chaos will only make any situation more dire.

Ok - stepping off of my soap box!

I’m hoping this post will help calm the nerves and lessen the anxiety of some folks that are following along.
Even in the worst of situations, it’s best to look at the entire picture and keep things in perspective. Cool heads will prevail!
 
The two US planes are scheduled to depart within 30 minutes with evacuees from the Princess cruise ship. It is 12:39 local time there, and the two US flights (585 to Travis AFB between San Fran and Sacramento, and 581 to Kelly Field/Lackland AFB outside San Antonio TX) are leaving at 1:00 am and 1:15 am.

Source: flight aware.com screenshots

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