Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Emergency* #6

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I have a question for everyone here on the thread. Have you posted anything about this on your facebook as to any articles or anything? I had a dinner for 6 last week and tried to broach the subject as to a lead into a conversation... and they all dismissed. Wish I could find my notes as I actually afterwards noted the.. and all were.. "not gonna affect me, I'll worry about it when it does"

And last Wednesday (and tomorrow) I tried to broach in a group setting through our senior center activites group which I'm a member. Directly after I brought up the cruise ship stats to start a discussion, one of the folks brought out a cruise ship itenerary to discuss with her friend next to her. Egads, I shut down and apologized for bringing it up.. What to do in that situation folks, I don't know.

As to folks who say...it doesn't affect me? Well, pffft, cannot say to them look at your 401k etc if that's the least of your worries?

But really, how many of us are "out" on MSM speaking of?

Oh yeah, as to how close to me so far..
  1. Neighbor couple who was in US isolation as to the virus (none in my state, they had flown back from China and discussed upthread) ,
  2. my family member who does VIPkids learning online 6 hours a day to China,
  3. and a family member whos inlaws are now in Taiwan (government/state employees, but were from western China at beginning of outbreak who had 24 -48 hours to fly out.. they went to Tawain vs. US).

With all of the above, just doesn't seem right to probe like us WSers wanna do. I don't know how in the criminal cases those close to them talk.. as I cannot even ask those closest as I feel so uncomfortable doing so. They are dealing with it, and I don't want to make worse with inquiry iykwim.

It's just a tangent for me, but I'm already so poised? But seems absolutely not one of my friends or family members are concerned as much as I, if at all.

Are we Henny Pennies?

Not much social media for me. I have spoken to my adult children and other family members. My children are on board and are stocking up on supplies (as we speak haha). Some of my extended family are also on board, others not so much. All we can do is try........and pray for the best.
 
If anything, being prepared will go a long ways to helping you avoid the crowds and lines if there is any panic buying.
I remember Hurricane season last, we had a near hit and I was working at Walmart at the time. Our water was wiped out, and as soon as a truck came in and pallets were offloaded, we had a line down the middle of the store.
As people grabbed cases of water, and as the cases were getting lower and lower, people in the back of the line started fighting and hollering and trying to break the line to grab what they could. All civility went out the window.
 
Contra Costa Health Services officials confirmed Tuesday that 2 coronavirus patients among a group of quarantined international travelers at Travis Air Force Base have been transferred to Contra Costa County for treatment.

The two patients were brought to Contra Costa County hospitals due to a lack of space at hospitals closer to the Air Force base in Solano County.

2 Coronavirus Cases Transported to Contra Costa County for Medical Care
 
Here is a down to earth one month guide...I started with this as I am in suburbia and def. not a hardcore prepper. I have only a dog, no chickens, no land, no garden, no garage or even a basement..lol...not all of us are survivalists living off the grid. That's why I found this so helpful-
One-Month Food Stash for Less than $150
Shelf-Stable One Month Food for One Person for Less than $150
 
?? Already thousand or more in home quarantine in the US. Are you speaking to taking them out of their homes and hauling them elsewhere?

I highly doubt that will be done initially. I won’t say it couldn’t end up there. I think we’ll see more general quarantining of cities to start. The objective will be an attempt to contain the virus and slow the spread across the nation.

As far as what we saw occurring in China with the door to door search for the virus and forced into quarantine, I hope we don’t get to that level. However, if at some point it is deemed necessary for control, and the medical experts support the reasoning, I have no doubt that our government will do what it feels it needs to do. But, I will add that I think it would be approached much differently in most of the world than it was in China.
Public announcements along with the reasons behind the decision would be broadcast far and wide. I believe most people, when well informed and treated humanely, will actually appreciate the effort. But if it’s not well received by the general population, containment efforts will escalate.
I almost hate putting this out there, but I believe the more aggressive measures will have to take place in the most densely populated areas. Controlling the spread in the less populated western states shouldn’t be too difficult, but controlling the spread somewhere like New York City would be extremely challenging at best
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Personally, I foresee controlling panic will be the biggest issue the US will face. This is not the type of adversity most Americans are prepared for. I’m honestly more concerned about the transition to this new reality than I am the virus itself.
All MOO
 
Personally, I foresee controlling panic will be the biggest issue the US will face. This is not the type of adversity most Americans are prepared for. I’m honestly more concerned about the transition to this new reality than I am the virus itself.
All MOO
Agreed.....my discussions with my family are about this point, not actually getting the virus. It has been a very long time that the US has faced this type of crisis......
 
Iran may have many more coronavirus cases than reported, Canadian research suggests

By Kate AllenScience and Technology Reporter
Tues., Feb. 25, 2020timer3 min. read
The true number of coronavirus cases in Iran may be upwards of 18,000, according to a preliminary analysis by Canadian researchers, suggesting an epidemic there nearly 200 times larger than what the country has reported — and a situation with potentially grave global consequences.

A spokesperson for Iran’s health ministry said Tuesday that the country had 95 confirmed cases of COVID-19, as the disease caused by the novel coronavirus is called, and 15 deaths.

The true extent of the outbreak is “not only concerning to people in Iran, but also to Canadians and everyone else on the planet,” said Isaac Bogoch, a co-author of the analysis and an infectious disease specialist at Toronto General Hospital and the University of Toronto.


“We’re so interconnected that this is not just an Iranian problem.”

Experts have expressed concern that the extent of the outbreak in Iran is under-reported, and that uncontrolled transmission in the country could have profound consequences for limiting the global spread of the disease. Iran shares borders with or has close ties to several countries — including Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria — that have little to no capacity to detect or contain infections.

The Canadian scientists, a group of infectious disease specialists and mathematical modellers, crunched numbers over the weekend to estimate the real size of the epidemic in Iran. The results were published Tuesday on medRxiv, a website that posts preliminary research that has not yet been peer-reviewed and published in a journal.

The team based its analysis in part on the number of international cases linked to Iran.

On Thursday, British Columbia reported a confirmed case of COVID-19 in a person who had recently travelled from Iran. At that time, Iran was reporting just five confirmed cases.

Neither Canada nor Lebanon receive large volumes of air travellers from Iran, the researchers noted. Canada ranked 31st for outbound air travel volume from the country during the same period last year.

Some of the 10 cities that receive the most travellers from Iran at this time of year are in countries — Iraq, Syria, and Azerbaijan — that have extremely limited abilities to detect an outbreak. The fact that none had reported a COVID-19 case at the time of the analysis — but that Canada and Lebanon had — would suggest that the disease is likely present in those vulnerable countries.

The researchers estimate that the true burden of disease in Iran is 18,300 cases, but that it could be as low as 3,770 or as high as 53,470. They said uncertainty in the data creates a wide margin of error — but that all of those numbers are much higher than has been officially reported, and any significant outbreak would be difficult for the country to handle.

Since they crunched the numbers Sunday, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Iraq and Oman have all announced cases of the virus connected to travel from Iran. Bahrain said it had 17 confirmed cases of COVID-19, all in passengers who travelled through cities in United Arab Emirates, Iran’s neighbour across the Persian Gulf.

“There are large populations living in regions with limited public health capacity in the neighbourhood,” said Bogoch. “The concern is they may already have cases that just aren’t going detected, and if they don’t already have cases, they may very soon.”

The situation in Iran threatened to spiral quickly out of control. On Monday, the head of the Iranian government task force on the coronavirus appeared on television to insist the situation in the country was stable, while he repeatedly coughed and wiped his brow. On Tuesday, the official announced he had tested positive for the coronavirus himself.
 
Here we go again......


NEW: Cayman Islands government says it is denying entry to the Meraviglia cruise ship because 2 of its crew members aren't well. Jamaica also denied entry. BNO Newsroom on Twitter

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

I am sure Mexico and the Bahamas will also deny and then the ship returns to Miami who will handle this?

7 Night Caribbean And Antilles
Ship MSC Meraviglia

More details at


Cruise Itinerary: Miami, Florida (23 Feb d1900); Ocho Rios, Jamaica (25 Feb 0900-1700); George Town, Grand Cayman (26 Feb 0800-1600); Cozumel, Mexico (27 Feb 1000-1800); Ocean Cay, Bahamas (29 Feb 0900-2355); Miami, Florida (01 Mar
 
Our local healthcare providers are handing out boxes of masks. A lot of medical supply companies are also booming with business with the constant sale of masks , and word on the street is Costco will start supplying the masks.
 
Can I get an Amen!? I do NOT want to hear newbies showing up and chastising those of us who have been following this literally day by day and told we are over reacting and don't know the "facts".

I am personally high risk. I have multiple members of my extended family who are high risk. And near 20% of people needing intensive care or treatment is nothing to sneeze about. It's ridiculous to even need to go into minute detail about what's frightening about this. Some people just need to go back and read all the threads.

A lot of ppl are confused re this virus but lets not classify that only newbies have false info. The media does not help either with their personal narrative. CDC needs to start having public service announcements to educate ppl with what to do and give the true facts. JMO
 
A lot of ppl are confused re this virus but lets not classify that only newbies have false info. The media does not help either with their personal narrative. CDC needs to start having public service announcements to educate ppl with what to do and give the true facts. JMO
I listened to the cdc call today. Both cnn & fox news asked very politically motivated questions which kind of scared me. This shouldn't be political.
 
Italy struggles with virus 'that doesn't respect borders'

Within 72 hours from the first outbreak, almost a dozen towns in the wealthy regions of Lombardy and Veneto, with a total population of about 50,000 people, were placed under quarantine.

Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said that the country had taken precautions, including barring flights from China in January. These measures seemed to have paid off even if it appeared otherwise, he said.
 
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