Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #81

[Deleted member 158085]

Wow, really? Opposite here.

But I think he kept his distance while unmasked - and showed good cheer and courage while doing so.

Biden just doesn’t have that healthy orange glow.

 

[RANCH]

What irked me is that Trump's personal physician decided, rather than giving a medical update, he chose to editorialize the information to put a 'spin' on it, to keep an upbeat message. Whatever happened to just the facts?

Exactly how were we hurt by this "spin"?

The people who hate President Trump will still hate him and the people who support or like him will continue to do so. JMO

 

[LadyL]

I was really running low on litter and cat food this past April, and read about Chewy.com on here, but had never used it before. I tried it, and have been using it ever since. Prices are competitive and the heavy boxes of litter are delivered by UPS right to the door and left on the porch. If one month I don't need an order of anything, I just defer to the next month. Works really well.

Thanks I have heard of chewy but unfortunately they don't deliver in Canada.

 

[Simply Southern]

No issue for me ... I was just trying to explain to another Aussie the cultural differences as I saw them.
My own experience in the US was different to yours. In ER and birthing unit they wore scrubs, and the doctors I did see in their office or visiting me in hospital after DD's birth wore regular clothes.

It seems to me that the Walter Reed white coats are very formal, with embroidered names, so I thought perhaps they were like a uniform in a military hospital. That's all.

Every doctor I know has an embroidered lab coat. We have a wall at the hospital with photos of the physicians in these nice crisp white lab coats. We have photos back to the 1950s. Most hospitals do.

 

[branmuffin]

Exactly how were we hurt by this "spin"?

The people who hate President Trump will still hate him and the people who support or like him will continue to do so. JMO

It's got nothing to do with whether someone was 'hurt' by the spin, it's the fact that a medical doctor who is in the position to provide the public with unvarnished information chose not to and as such spent a good portion of today's truncated PC walking back his statements. That's not good medicine.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

The white coats!!! Gah!!!

Yes, they are normal in the US.

 

[Simply Southern]

yes well most doctors I have been in the presence of do not administer anything - it's always the nurses & techs that do the actual manual labour

ETA: except surgeons of course

So true. I can't remember if it was the PC today or yesterday, the physician mentioned his O2 saturation dropped and the reporter ask if the president was given oxygen. He responded, I'd have to ask the nurse.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Never say never. Be prepared.

True.

8 Texas cities were alerted to a brain-eating amoeba found in water supply - CNN

 

[Simply Southern]

It's got nothing to do with whether someone was 'hurt' by the spin, it's the fact that a medical doctor who is in the position to provide the public with unvarnished information chose not to and as such spent a good portion of today's truncated PC walking back his statements. That's not good medicine.

The PC was to give an overview of the presidents condition, I didn't have the expectation it would be a detailed medical report with lab values, xrays, scans.
Clearly reporting BP, saturation, heart rate and medications is much more than other world leaders have shared about their condition or treatment. Moo...

 

[Sundog]

Thanks I have heard of chewy but unfortunately they don't deliver in Canada.

I forgot that. It's hard to send food (pet or human) across the border due to Canadian food and ag requirements and extra hoops that smaller U.S. companies would have to go through. I find that out each time I send food products to my family in Canada. I always get a call from Canadian customs asking for more detail about the food products that are in the packages I send, more detail than what I write on the customs slip that is required for UPS to deliver them into Canada.

 

[LadyL]

So true. I can't remember if it was the PC today or yesterday, the physician mentioned his O2 saturation dropped and the reporter ask if the president was given oxygen. He responded, I'd have to ask the nurse.

LOL!

 

[SouthAussie]

It's got nothing to do with whether someone was 'hurt' by the spin, it's the fact that a medical doctor who is in the position to provide the public with unvarnished information chose not to and as such spent a good portion of today's truncated PC walking back his statements. That's not good medicine.

Yes, I personally would rather have seen a media release with whatever they chose to release, as opposed to the confusion that happened.

I don't think anyone should expect anything more than "the president had a comfortable night, condition stable".

IMO

 

[Sundog]

Every doctor I know has an embroidered lab coat. We have a wall at the hospital with photos of the physicians in these nice crisp white lab coats. We have photos back to the 1950s. Most hospitals do.

Same with every doctor I have known - whether at Ohio State, Stanford, Cleveland Clinic or small town hospital rural USA. Whether a teaching/research hospital or a community hospital.

Never had a doctor see me just wearing a business suit, that would be odd here.

 

[Snowflake_Sue]

yes - if the person is actually inside, performing a medical task, it's common here.

However, for hospital spokespersons, it is not as common. But it is a military hospital and may have rules and regs about dress. I have no clue.

I'm trying to remember when I last saw a doctor without a lab coat. Maybe some ER techs?

Are we talking about TV doctors?

 

[RANCH]

Yes, I personally would rather have seen a media release with whatever they chose to release, as opposed to the confusion that happened.

I don't think anyone should expect anything more than "the president had a comfortable night, condition stable".

IMO

Nope. If they don't release details then the media will spin it into something that's not true to further their biased agenda. JMO.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Are we talking about TV doctors?

Are you?

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Are we talking about TV doctors?

No. We aren't. The majority of my doctors wear a lab coat over very nice clothes. And that's in a fairly rural setting. (Granted, one of my mom's doctors, and the entire office, wears jeans and boots. But truthfully, it's pretty odd.) One of my specialists dresses nicely and does not wear a lab coat, but she's not the norm.

Lab coats on doctors are not abnormal here.

 

[Sillybilly]

Please move on from the discussion of lab coats.

Thank you.

 

[BeckyF]

There is something to that. Love him or hate him as the president showing he’s okay is a smart strategy. Our enemies will double their efforts at espionage if they think the focus is elsewhere because he’s super ill.

And yes I know there’s multiple arguments about this administration and foreign involvement/influence. But putting that aside, most presidents have made sure to appear strong and even cover up illnesses when possible, because it’s a smart thing to do.

Either way, he seems very healthy to me, considering the alternatives. If he needed oxygen support of any kind I don’t believe they’d allow him to risk a car ride.

Yep he looks quite healthy to me.

 

[RANCH]

Yep he looks quite healthy to me.

Yes, and that's a very good thing. JMO