Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #17

[Tink56]

Fast forward a bit too and his trip into the city to see/take the children is something that seems delusional to me too? I am curious to know whether he had the court authorized supervisor with him when he went to pick up the children in the city? Haven't heard any description of who was with him the day he was turned away by the 'armed guards' at GF apt.

He seems fixated on a goal (in this case picking up children) to the exclusion of understand much about the currect reality (JD missing/murdered, NCPD interest etc.).

With the benefit of hindsite this all looks positively delusional IMO. Did he think that he would simply pick up the children, pick up MT and her daughter and ride off into the sunset?

MOO

Following up on this fixation....If LE weren't involved for 48 hours, theoretically FD could pick up the children for the Saturday, court-approved visit and he would have had physical custody of the children at that point.

Mother missing? No problem...the court said I could have them on Saturday and Sunday and Wednesday evening....FD certainly doesn't understand the concept of a "country of laws" or human decency.

 

[MDATCA]

[QUOTE="Chicago54, post: 15306328, member: 205115]

“Recalling his discovery while rummaging through trash on the weekend after Farber Dulos disappeared, the witness said the trash can was located near a convenience store on the corner of Albany and Garden.”

Let that sink in. Near a convenience store at Albany and Garden.....NOT in front of Scott’s.
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Quote snipped by me for lenghth.
All this talk of trash pickup schedule may not be relevant if it was an bin outside of the store. That may be owned by the store and they empty the trash into a large dumpster picked up by a private company. The public dump may not be where that trash was taken.

 

[afitzy]

Best explanation I have seen of the Hartford Police Command Center for the cameras:

Cameras capture ‘critical footage’ in missing New Canaan woman Jennifer Dulos case

 

[afitzy]

[QUOTE="Chicago54, post: 15306328, member: 205115]

“Recalling his discovery while rummaging through trash on the weekend after Farber Dulos disappeared, the witness said the trash can was located near a convenience store on the corner of Albany and Garden.”

Let that sink in. Near a convenience store at Albany and Garden.....NOT in front of Scott’s.

Quote snipped by me for lenghth.
All this talk of trash pickup schedule may not be relevant if it was an bin outside of the store. That may be owned by the store and they empty the trash into a large dumpster picked up by a private company. The public dump may not be where that trash was taken.[/QUOTE]

@MDATCA I think in an earlier thread the trash disposal options in Hartford were researched and discussed. The focus though was on the City pickup of trash along Albany. If I am understanding you correctly you are asking the question of whether the businesses along Albany also have commercial pickup to supplement the weekly pickup done by the City? Is this what you are asking?

 

[Jmoose]

I can give HF a pass on not knowing the demographics of the Farmington area, but for
FD going into the market there this is basic
Homebuilding 101- know your market.
FD didn't do his homework. He had little to risk using his FIL's money and he jumped in feet first. After he sold a few homes he decided
like many greedy new people in the business
that he could make so much more profit by
going bigger and more expensive. But it doesn't work that way.
Also surprising that some good RE agent didn't educate him. Or maybe he just wouldn't listen.

Plus he perpetuated his mistakes for too long and failed to correct his business plan.
Again, common mistakes when new in the business. But his mistakes came with huge
$$ mistakes. He was really out of his league
in so many ways.
It's like we see in other businesses or even in personal lives, when a person is playing with other people's money, they may not be as cautious and careful as they would be if it were
their own hard earned money.
We see this often in people who inherit a large
sum of money, and those who win the lottery, and also celebrity athletes, they blow it indiscriminately. They're new to the world of large sums of money.
Whereas the person who worked hard day in and day out for that money slowly does his
due diligence so as not to lose what he worked so hard to accumulate.
I'm sure those around the Farmington area who worked with FD or did work for him, quickly figured out he didn't really work for his money. It's usually pretty
obvious the way they spend.

Bolded portion says everything; I really believe that this was his business plan. And you’re right; just because you have some success with a lower priced construction, doesn’t mean you’ll have more success with a more expensive one because there are fewer buyers, with plenty of choices. I’m not a builder or a realtor, but even I know this. I also think you are right re: being told and not wanting to listen. And it must be true that people who came in contact with him and his business had to have figured him out. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if he had a lot of subcontractors and other people who wouldn’t work with him twice. Word gets around with the builders, too. Maybe even with home buyers, and that could be why he has so many houses on the market-nobody wants to pay $1 million plus, and end up with a gigantic plumbing/electrical/structural problem.

 

[Chicago54]

That's what is sounds like according to the theories you all have posted.

This is what is tripping me up. The arrest warrant says the license plates were near Albany/Garden:

Ok. Either color me red or....what is going on??? IIRC after the storm drain search in front of Scott’s LE let out inaccurate info stating they had found “nothing” in order to still have an element of surprise before they nabbed FD and MT.
Back to my flow chart.

Warrant says Albany/Garden
1. If correct, what was Scott’s about? Did they check all the storm drains on Albany?
2. If incorrect, ( and the warrant erred in giving the location) isn’t it odd that the DD happened to say he found his items at the same location??? Did he actually, or was he fed location?

I’m still bother by the closeness of the reporting of the two finds. T-shirt bundle vs knife. I think knife story takes away from the other and waters downs it’s importance. Was it concocted as a distraction? I don’t like this, at least until there is a knife.

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[merrymary]

@MollyDDD , were you the sleuther who managed to get video of the original NP interview - the one that was edited when we returned to it the following day? If so, were you ever able to figure out how to share it here?

I have it....a VERY poor video and the file is HUGE (1.4 GB), however, I also have it in audio - 2 parts (3.4MB & 7.09MB). I never heard back as to whether it was ok to share (and if so, how).

 

[Jmoose]

The pizza guy?

Well, ok, the pizza guy! But you know what I mean

 

[Chicago54]

Went back to Stamford Advocate article early on: Warrant: Jennifer Dulos’ blood-stained items tossed by estranged husband, his girlfriend

Quotes from article:

First this:
One video clip showed a man inserting an item into a storm drain grate near Garden Street. [BBM] Detectives later searched the area and recovered two Connecticut license plates that had been altered with adhesive and tape, the warrant said. The plate was connected to a canceled registration for a 2007 Chevrolet Suburban belonging to Fotis Dulos.


Then this:
The investigation quickly shifted to the Hartford area on Friday with authorities searching the Upper Albany section of the city, focusing on a storm drain outside a bakery and trash bins in the area. [BBM] A few hours later, they arrived at Fotis Dulos’ Farmington home before escorting him to the state police Troop L barracks in Litchfield, where blood and hair samples were taken.

Very confusing. Where were the license plates fished out of? Near Garden or Upper Albany? Where was the knife allegedly found? Near Garden or Upper Albany?

Sorry. I was off emailing DA. Who knows what is going on. I’m going to look for the article about finding the plates/ holding off announcing discovery/ picking up FD and MT.

 

[Jmoose]

Fast forward a bit too and his trip into the city to see/take the children is something that seems delusional to me too? I am curious to know whether he had the court authorized supervisor with him when he went to pick up the children in the city? Haven't heard any description of who was with him the day he was turned away by the 'armed guards' at GF apt.

He seems fixated on a goal (in this case picking up children) to the exclusion of understand much about the currect reality (JD missing/murdered, NCPD interest etc.).

With the benefit of hindsite this all looks positively delusional IMO. Did he think that he would simply pick up the children, pick up MT and her daughter and ride off into the sunset?

MOO

Yes I do think he thought it would go just this way.

 

[afitzy]

Video interview with Hartford FD about Albany Ave:
Hartford investigation

 

[afitzy]

I have it....a VERY poor video and the file is HUGE (1.4 GB), however, I also have it in audio - 2 parts (3.4MB & 7.09MB). I never heard back as to whether it was ok to share (and if so, how).

Yes, don't see why it can't be shared. Suggest putting your files into a dropbox acct (free) and then posting the link to the dropbox acct here if you are comfortable with that. Totally your call. Do want you feel comfortable doing.

 

[citygirl]

Sorry. I was off emailing DA. Who knows what is going on. I’m going to look for the article about finding the plates/ holding off announcing discovery/ picking up FD and MT.

Remember this?
Search for missing mom Jennifer Dulos includes search in multiple locations in Hartford

 

[afitzy]

Sorry. I was off emailing DA. Who knows what is going on. I’m going to look for the article about finding the plates/ holding off announcing discovery/ picking up FD and MT.

Listen to the Fire Chief video interview too. My take is he might have slipped up for a second when first asked about whether anything was found as the reporters were hammering away. We also know that the State has shut down media access to the CCTV for Albany. IMO this is being done for a reason. You might have just identified the confusion surrounding this entire issue and why the press wanted to see the CCTV. I really also wonder if DA knows exactly where the knife was found?

I am still confused by the CCTV from the Jamaican Bakery that we saw early on. I agree that it seemed that from that eyewitness account that the fedex box was found there and not further down Albany near Garden. If anyone can find the interview with the Jamaican Bakery owner/worker and can post it please do. I have been looking and can't find it.

 

[sds71]

[QUOTE="Chicago54, post: 15306328, member: 205115]

“Recalling his discovery while rummaging through trash on the weekend after Farber Dulos disappeared, the witness said the trash can was located near a convenience store on the corner of Albany and Garden.”
Let that sink in. Near a convenience store at Albany and Garden.....NOT in front of Scott’s.

Quote snipped by me for lenghth.
All this talk of trash pickup schedule may not be relevant if it was an bin outside of the store. That may be owned by the store and they empty the trash into a large dumpster picked up by a private company. The public dump may not be where that trash was taken.[/QUOTE]

There is a liquor store, mini supermarket and gas station with store on the corner of Albany and Garden

 

[Curious in CT]

I have it....a VERY poor video and the file is HUGE (1.4 GB), however, I also have it in audio - 2 parts (3.4MB & 7.09MB). I never heard back as to whether it was ok to share (and if so, how).

Yay, @merrymary !
I believe you'd need to upload it to a video hosting site. Do you have a YouTube or Vimeo account? The source is MSM, so I don't think it would violate TOS....but would love if anyone like @sds71 and @afitzy could chime in with ideas, as they frequently add documents and images to this thread. Video without a URL from the direct source is trickier.

 

[Chicago54]

Video interview with Hartford FD about Albany Ave:
Hartford investigation

So there it is. He said Albany and Adams! That’s the storm drain by Scott’s bakery where the still photos are taken-of this search. He said state Pd called them to aid in search because of space size, gases.. he said they were not asked to help any where else. No where else on Albany. He stumbled upon being asked what was found, started to say evidence, but then corrected to say nothing was found.
Maybe warrant was incorrect. If so, isn’t it odd that DD says Albany and Garden also?

 

[afitzy]

Remember this?
Search for missing mom Jennifer Dulos includes search in multiple locations in Hartford

IDK but I don't think they wanted to announce that anything had been found at the time this was going on. I do believe they searched almost all of the drains on Albany. We don't have anything from LE other than the Arrest Warrant and that says Albany near Garden. IDK.

 

[afitzy]

So there it is. He said Albany and Adams! That’s the storm drain by Scott’s bakery where the still photos are taken-of this search. He said state Pd called them to aid in search because of space size, gases.. he said they were not asked to help any where else. No where else on Albany. He stumbled upon being asked what was found, started to say evidence, but then corrected to say nothing was found.
Maybe warrant was incorrect. If so, isn’t it odd that DD says Albany and Garden also?

I agree that FC says Albany and Adams. This is very strange. Will go back and look at the timeline. But as you 2 point out, Albany and Adams makes much more sense in the context of knife and shirt/bra finds I think. Do you agree?

 

[sds71]

Farber V. Fore Group
193.00 08/06/2019 P OBJECTION TO MOTION

SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL OBJECTION TO MOTION TO QUASH
This one is about MT
They must not know about her Reddit ad