Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #17

[citygirl]

We have to keep reminding ourselves that FD is a super-star narcissist and he must destroy others in order to fill up that hole a narcissist always has.

It gets crazy when tearing down others actually hurts him too but he can't help himself.
It's not eating me up
I take joy in knowing FD's anger is eating him up inside and while Jennifer no longer has to suffer, he will forever.

He does, however, get to continue to live in a nice house at the family's expense and that eats me up inside!

It's not eating me up, at all. I do think it is eating him up, though. He is already in a prison of sorts. He has no real freedom. Well, he does in some ways. He can walk outside and breath fresh air, drive where he desires, eat where he wants. But, IMO, he knows he is short timing it. It's on his mind 24/7. When and where are they coming for me? MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

This is a good question. IIRC, there was not one at the time she went missing. I am wondering why not.
If the perp doesn't regard the law, then it does nothing in terms of protection. But it would still be good to have, I would think? There could've been reasons she didn't. Can anyone speak to this? MOO.

I cannot speak to this with anything but my opinion. My thoughts are that she was—as really is her nature, it seems—to try to get along as much as possible since a restraining order would have made it harder for the kids. Also, sometimes the act of getting a restraining order infuriates the abuser more and precipitates even worse or fatal violence from reputable sources. I’m not saying what I think is right or not to do as I have no idea since these are such dangerous situations regardless. I don’t think anything short of being locked in prison would stop FD based on what we’ve seen and read. Even when he is in prison, would I be shocked if he still were trying to find ways to hurt this family? No. I hope GF still has and keeps that armed guard. The KM aspect has revealed that danger is even more of a threat in MOO. All MOO.

 

[CTGrammy]

Oooh, oooh, oooh! Do we KNOW that EE last saw his red truck at 80 MS? Do we know when? Do we know that the truck was taken through the carwash where LE was investigating? Fits right in with my theory, too.

Thank you CTGrammy!

(OT and about myself: My FAVORITE grandparent was called "Grammy" by my siblings and me, and she lived in New Hartford, CT.)

Thank you.

If I forgot to put MOO on that comment, I do so Now. MOO MOO and MOO.

According to FD's Phone Pings info provided by LE:

Fact: LE says that FD's phone traveled from 4JC to 80MS at 1:37 pm on that Friday.

Fact: FD's phone leaves 80MS at 3:38 pm and travels to 4JC arriving at 4:17 pm. This is 39 minutes to travel 2.3 miles?

IMO, FD left EE's truck at 80MS and Walked home, arriving at the above time of 4:17 pm at 4JC.

Fact: Google maps confirms that the distance of these two homes could be Walked in 40 minutes.

IMO, FD Walked this distance in the 39 minutes between the two phone ping locations of 80MS and 4JC.

IMO, FD left EE's Red Truck at 80MS and Walked the 39 minutes home, so that FD could mislead EE and LE into thinking that the Red Truck Never left 80MS that Friday.

IMO, this decision denotes that EE's red truck was left at 80MS by FD, because 80MS is where EE last parked and saw his own red truck.

Fact: FD's phone leaves 4JC at 5:21 pm and travels to 80MS and then arrives back at 4JC at 5:34 pm for a 13 minute round trip.

IMO, at 5:21 pm, EE picked up FD at 4JC and they traveled together to 80MS for the vehicle exchange.

Fact: LE says vehicle swap took place between 4:00 pm and 5:30 pm and my vehicle exchange timeline theory fits.

Fact: Google maps denotes that the round trip to 80MS and back to 4JC takes 10 minutes by car/truck and there is 13 minutes between LE's noted phone ping times.

IMO, the additional 3 minutes were used to load the possible 30+ trash bags and the FedEx box of plates, into FD's Ford Raptor.

IMO, and Only IMO, FD had EE load the bags onto FD's Ford Raptor, so that EE's fingerprints would be all over the bags and the FedEx box.

IMO, this would not be an odd request by FD, since IMO, FD never lifted a finger when he visited the construction sites in his high end clothing and shoes.

IMO, FD was Setting Up EE as the main plan or as the backup plan and therefore FD Needed EE's fingerprints On those bags.

IMO, FD held on to the altered license plates and possible number of 30+ trash bags for 10+ hours, just so that FD could Set Up EE.

IMO, and Only IMO, EE lives near the more than 4 mile stretch of Albany Avenue in the Hartford Area, where FD's 'Trash Bin Odyssey of Stupidity Date Night' occurred with MT on that Friday evening.

IMO, FD wanted the altered license plates found, to fit into his plan of setting up EE.

FD could have just taken the altering tape off the plates and put the plates back where FD had them stored or just thrown them away in any trash receptacle earlier in the day.

Once the Fedex package was in the storm drain, it could very easily wash up and IMO, that is exactly what FD wanted to happen. There were literally hundreds of ways to dispose of them without them being found.

IMO, FD left the altering tape on the plates as part of his ploy.

IMO, FD placed the altered plates on EE's Red Truck that Friday, so that FD could 'reasonably' use the Red Truck 'undetected' as being EE's Red Truck.

FD needed to make sure that the Red Truck could not be identified as EE's, on CCTV or by an individual witness, while in NC so that FD could reasonably mislead LE and EE into thinking that FD did Not drive EE's Red Truck that Friday.

The ONE big question?

Why would FD hold onto a possible 30+ bags of evidence and two altered vehicle plates, for 10+ Hours???????

IMO and Only IMO, FD was setting up EE.

IMO FD waited the 10+ hours to dispose of the bags and one box of evidence so that FD could get EE's fingerprints on those bags and to transfer any DNA evidence to the bed of FD's Ford Raptor, since EE was using FD's Ford Raptor while EE was working in NC all day, that Friday.

IMO, FD's extremely altered hair cut could have been done to look more like EE.

I am SO Glad that EE immediately retained a top notch attorney and I am SO Glad that LE has stated that EE is Not a suspect.

With a MOO MOO here and a MOO MOO there.

 

[Jmoose]

More about Judge Blawie.
7th of 12 children.
Ya think he gets it?
5 Things to Know About Judge John Blawie, Who Heard Connecticut's Last Death Penalty Case | Connecticut Law Tribune

I don’t automatically think he does get it-but I guess we will see. I just hope he understands spousal abuse that hasn’t necessarily been physical abuse until the wife is murdered. FD was certainly abusive emotionally, financially, socially, probably verbally, if I had to guess-JD and the children as well. I hope he does get it.

 

[afitzy]

I have been curious about what LE has found in her car and...her cell phone! Did they ever recover her cell phone?

Unknown. We have pictures from MSM of the FBI Evidence team and State Police combing the area in/around Waveny Park with dogs that are specially trained to find electronic items. Multple searches were conducted of Waveny Park and the small shallow pond was also drained by local fire teams. No statement was ever made by LE as to what if anything was found during these searches.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I love her writing...but nearly every blog post is solemn...and almost defeatist. I do agree with her though, blow drying my hair is a magic time, for me also. jmo

Self-reflective, indeed, and I think she naturally is an introspective writer even about happy things. Some writers say they only know how they really feel about something when they write about it. That seems to me from my viewpoint only to be likely with JD. MOO but because such writers know that their written words in self reflections are their truths, for good or for bad, the revelations can be shocking and ultimately cannot be ignored. Perhaps these posts and other writings she did not post led JD to a realization that she needed to divorce FD. I don’t think those blog posts actually were for others even though she made them public because they are beautifully written and speak to so many; instead, I think they were written by her for her understanding and acknowledgment, and because, to many writers I know, when everything else is incomprehensibly chaotic, writing is how they can process it; writing saves them and I mean this mostly figuratively although certainly some writers have found the process literally lifesaving. Just MOO.

 

[citygirl]

I don’t automatically think he does get it-but I guess we will see. I just hope he understands spousal abuse that hasn’t necessarily been physical abuse until the wife is murdered. FD was certainly abusive emotionally, financially, socially, probably verbally, if I had to guess-JD and the children as well. I hope he does get it.

We have already seen him. Remember when NP tried to get his hands on FD's 401K? When NP tried to get bail decreased and PT tried to get it increased?

 

[Genieeasy]

Does anyone think there will be any significant action or info at Stamford Court hearing tomorrow? The continuances are so annoying ... delay delay. I’m sure it will be a MSM cluster $&&@ at the courthouse which is only 10 minutes away for me.
Yes, I have attended hearings there.

 

[afitzy]

Thank you.

If I forgot to put MOO on that comment, I do so Now. MOO MOO and MOO.

According to FD's Phone Pings info provided by LE:

Fact: LE says that FD's phone traveled from 4JC to 80MS at 1:37 pm at that Friday.

Fact: FD's phone leaves 80MS at 3:38 pm and travels to 4JC arriving at 4:17 pm. This is 39 minutes to travel 2.3 miles?

IMO, FD left EE's truck at 80MS and Walked home, arriving at the above time of 4:17 pm at 4JC.

Fact: Google maps confirms that the distance of these two homes could be Walked in 40 minutes.

IMO, FD Walked this distance in the 39 minutes between the two phone ping locations of 80MS and 4JC.

IMO, FD left EE's Red Truck at 80MS and Walked the 39 minutes home, so that FD could mislead EE and LE into thinking that the Red Truck Never left 80MS that Friday.

IMO, this decision denotes that EE's red truck was left at 80MS by FD, because 80MS is where EE last parked and saw his own red truck.

Fact: FD's phone leaves 4JC at 5:21 pm and travels to 80MS and then arrives back at 4JC at 5:34 pm for a 13 minute round trip.

IMO, at 5:21 pm, EE picked up FD at 4JC and they traveled together to 80MS for the vehicle exchange.

Fact: LE says vehicle swap took place between 4:00 pm and 5:30 pm and my vehicle exchange timeline theory fits.

Fact: Google maps denotes that the round trip to 80MS and back to 4JC takes 10 minutes by car/truck and there is 13 minutes between LE's noted phone ping times.

IMO, the additional 3 minutes were used to load the possible 30+ trash bags and the FedEx box of plates, into FD's Ford Raptor.

IMO, and Only IMO, FD had EE load the bags onto FD's Ford Raptor, so that EE's fingerprints would be all over the bags and the FedEx box.

IMO, this would not be an odd request by FD, since IMO, FD never lifted a finger when he visited the construction sites in his high end clothing.

IMO, FD was Setting Up EE as the main plan or as the backup plan and therefore FD Needed EE's fingerprints On those bags.

IMO, FD held on to the altered license plates and possible number of 30+ trash bags for 10+ hours, just so that FD could Set Up EE.

IMO, and Only IMO, EE lives near the more than 4 mile stretch of Albany Avenue in the Hartford Area, where FD's 'Trash Bin Odyssey of Stupidity Date Night' occurred with MT on that Friday evening.

IMO, FD wanted the altered license plates found, to fit into his plan of setting up EE.

FD could have just taken the altering tape off the plates and put the plates back where FD had them stored or just thrown them away in any trash receptacle earlier in the day.

Once the Fedex package was in the storm drain, it could very easily wash up and IMO, that is exactly what FD wanted to happen. There were literally hundreds of ways to dispose of them without them being found.

IMO, FD left the altering tape on the plates as part of his ploy.

IMO, FD placed the altered plates on EE's Red Truck that Friday, so that FD could 'reasonably' use the Red Truck 'undetected' as being EE's Red Truck.

FD needed to make sure that the Red Truck could not be identified as EE's, on CCTV or by an individual witness, while in NC so that FD could reasonably mislead LE and EE into thinking that FD did Not drive EE's Red Truck that Friday.

The ONE big question?

Why would FD hold onto a possible 30+ bags of evidence and two altered vehicle plates, for 10+ Hours???????

IMO and Only IMO, FD was setting up EE.

IMO FD waited the 10+ hours to dispose of the bags and one box of evidence so that FD could get EE's fingerprints on those bags and to transfer any DNA evidence to the bed of FD's Ford Raptor, since EE was using FD's Ford Raptor while EE was working in NC all day, that Friday.

IMO, FD's extremely altered hair cut could have been done to look more like EE.

I am SO Glad that EE immediately retained a top notch attorney and I am SO Glad that LE has stated that EE is Not a suspect.

With a MOO MOO here and a MOO MOO there.

@CTGrammy I don't recall what the pictures we saw of the red truck showed - just remember we had pictures of the red truck sitting in the driveway of one of the houses. To me it would make sense for the EE truck to be sitting in 4Jx as that is were FD office was located. But FD being FD I can see him coming up with some story as to why the truck was moved from 4Jx to 80MS.

Was the normal trade location for the truck at 4Jx or 80 MS? If the normal pick up location wasn't 4Jx, then how does FD explain why the pickup was now being done at 80MS vs 4Jx? Perhaps he said he was just doing some 'clean up' at 80 MS. IDK.

Alot of trades people keep good records of mileage for various reasons. I wonder if EE is one of those folks that knew precisely how many miles he drives and keeps a record?

Wouldn't it be interesting to see how many miles the EE truck moved under your theory?

If he had good records it might explain why he went out and get the atty quickly as he knew his truck might have been driven a good distance, rather than simply sitting in Farmington awaiting his return.

 

[BellaVita]

Exactly!

Is this all about revenge on the Farbers? Or is there something more sinister behind the finances and that is why he is fighting tooth and nail to stop disclosure?

If your goal is personal survival IMO you don't do what it seems FD seems to be doing?

Need other POV's here as I am baffled, but I'm a simple minded person I guess. How is FD defining what we are seeing play out as being remotely related to "winning"???????

Its almost as if he is on a personal suicide mission to make sure that nothing that the Farber money was used to build is left intact and he is willing to go down with the ship and be left with nothing.

MOO

It's simple to understand, IMO. A narcissistic sociopath wants to win at all costs. Screwing (almost used another word) another person into the ground is WIN-NING! even if they are themselves screwed...BUT they also think they are so smart..and they are in a way...they don't see the consequences to come. Like when one of these creatures could have gotten a very cheap divorce, from a person they stole ALOT of money from who was asking for none of it back...just wanted the divorce...and the sociopath drags it out just for fun and make the innocent one spend money on a lawyer. And is too stupid to realize that their spouse has the best lawyer in the county, wants justice and that if you don't show up at your divorce hearing, the other spouse gets whatever they ask for, LOL! And owns you for the rest of your natural life. They listen to people like NP and KM who they admire because they tell them what they want to hear. For FD this money situation is 2 pronged: All along, the finances were shady...just a by product of who he is...the other prong is GF who dared to challenge him. IME MOO

 

[afitzy]

Does anyone think there will be any significant action or info at Stamford Court hearing tomorrow? The continuances are so annoying ... delay delay. I’m sure it will be a MSM cluster $&&@ at the courthouse which is only 10 minutes away for me.
Yes, I have attended hearings there.

It seems like there are more than a few motions before the court and perhaps the Judge might take the time to clear the decks of some of them to keep things moving.

Perhaps we might be treated to a discussion of the ankle/wrist bracelet situation as the Judge last declared after the MT NY fiasco, "that the bracelets will work". A follow up to that statement might be warranted IMO. Particularly after the story this week of someone cutting off their bracelet, maybe the Judge will ask how they are working in this case to track FD? IDK as I frankly have little confidence based on what we have learned that movements of the suspect are communicated to the Judge and State in a timely fashion by the monitoring company. We also get to see if the bracelet was moved to the wrist from the ankle of FD.

Not that I think Pattis has any shame but with all his patter about speedy trial it would be highly ironic to see a request for a continuance from him. But I truly think the Defense is scrambling to put together its story and is nowhere with a viable theory/alibi and will need time, particularly in light of the KM story becoming public. Pattis has to be steamed IMO about the KM story as it actively shows his client working to undermine an existing court order. Wonder also if we might see another conspiracy to commit murder charge added to FD list of charges for his role in seeming to lure Mrs KM to his house and suggesting a trip to Greece? Wonder if she had taken the suggestion to go to Greece if she would have returned home alive? IDK but this would add another level of complexity to an already complicated situation with the JD disappearance/murder IMO.

The KM aspect of this story has me wondering if it is connected to the need to keep the warrants sealed as well? I really wonder if surveillance and wiretaps could have been implemented and the entire story that Mrs KM told in court this week and which sadly seemed largely dismissed by that Judge, might feature prominently in brilliantly clear audio in criminal court at some future date? I do believe the net is closing in around FD and KM and perhaps others. Stranger things have happened. Will just have to wait.

MOO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Well...for $600k - they better get a g**dam* murder conviction for this piece of s**t! jmo...going to the corner, now.

We need a bigger corner for us all! I’ve often thought about what a waste it is that some people do criminal things that then require others to spend so much time and money trying to get justice for the victims but we have no choice but to do whatever it takes for our collective humanity and also because not doing so could allow others to be hurt in similar ways. All MOO. I think of John Donne on this...

“No man is an island,
Entire of itself”

And:

“Any man’s death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know
for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.”

The bell tolls for us all...If only everyone would be good to others...but, happily, most people are, such as what occurs here to help others. MOO.

 

[citygirl]

Does anyone think there will be any significant action or info at Stamford Court hearing tomorrow? The continuances are so annoying ... delay delay. I’m sure it will be a MSM cluster $&&@ at the courthouse which is only 10 minutes away for me.
Yes, I have attended hearings there.

IMO? No. I think it will be a huge letdown.
So hoping I am wrong.

 

[Genieeasy]

Nothing has been reported about JD's mobile phone in the car or found elsewhere. IIRC the NCPD did a search of Waveny trails and along the Merritt Parkway using search dogs trained on electronic equipment.

I agree with fitzy. JD's car at the back entrance to the trails along Lapham is key. I've played out numerous scenarios based on if was alone or with an accomplice.

It was not NCPD searching in the Waveny trails and placing markers BUT the FBI Evidence Recovery Team and also their dogs searching for electronics . This was about 50 feet or so into the wooded trails from where the Suburban was found parked on Lapham Rd. Did her phone pinge there? Biggest question who planted the Suburban and when? Also in response to a prior post it is not at all unusual for joggers, dog walkers and people in general especially from
Our neighboring town of Darien to just park
In the pull offs on Lapham road and enter the trails from there instead of parking in the Waveny or Dog Park lots. I walk there everyday and my mind always wanders to what happened.

 

[MemPat]

I cannot speak to this with anything but my opinion. My thoughts are that she was—as really is her nature, it seems—to try to get along as much as possible since a restraining order would have made it harder for the kids. Also, sometimes the act of getting a restraining order infuriates the abuser more and precipitates even worse or fatal violence from reputable sources. I’m not saying what I think is right or not to do as I have no idea since these are such dangerous situations regardless. I don’t think anything short of being locked in prison would stop FD based on what we’ve seen and read. Even when he is in prison, would I be shocked if he still were trying to find ways to hurt this family? No. I hope GF still has and keeps that armed guard. The KM aspect has revealed that danger is even more of a threat in MOO. All MOO.

You're right about restraining orders, Hope.
They don't really do a lot to protect a woman and knowing he is finally losing control escalates the abuser's violence.

As a teenager I had to get a butcher knife to make my father drop the knife he held at my mother's neck.
Then he measured how far he had to stay from our house and parked there to intimidate us.
At night he would scratch on the back door just to keep the terror alive.

Finally he just dropped off our radar and only later did we learn he had returned to an earlier wife's home (one he had abandoned with 5 children). Who knows what she went through until he died a few years later but we were glad to be done! (We never found out how he died but, if she shot him, we're not real sorry.)

If FD doesn't go to prison, there will be other women and children who will suffer as his type sure doesn't self-rehabilitate! MT, if you're reading here.....run like the wind, ankle monitor and all!

 

[afitzy]

Nothing has been reported about JD's mobile phone in the car or found elsewhere. IIRC the NCPD did a search of Waveny trails and along the Merritt Parkway using search dogs trained on electronic equipment.

I agree with fitzy. JD's car at the back entrance to the trails along Lapham is key. I've played out numerous scenarios based on if was alone or with an accomplice.

@aaron44, I am so curious as to what the scenarios you have played out about the JD Suburban being at Lapham and if you feel comfortable sharing them here?

If you are willing to share I am super curious as to where you are with possibilities. I am now wondering if the JD body was transported from Welles in the JD Suburban? This would leave open the idea of how a suspect could get to Welles and hide (hang out at Irwin or the Winter Club?). Was another person involved that might have dropped the suspect off at Irwin/Winter club and this person then returned to Waveny to await the JD Suburban with the body? Just one of many thoughts but IDK about 2nd person being involved as just a driver.

I just think that the answer is much more simple than anything that has been discussed so far. But I have to admit the JD Suburban at Waveny is the piece of the puzzle that seems to be the odd piece out for lack of a better word. I just wonder if this is the piece that necessitated an accomplice or if this was all doable by a single person?

MOO

 

[Genieeasy]

It seems like there are more than a few motions before the court and perhaps the Judge might take the time to clear the decks of some of them to keep things moving.

Perhaps we might be treated to a discussion of the ankle/wrist bracelet situation as the Judge last declared after the MT NY fiasco, "that the bracelets will work". A follow up to that statement might be warranted IMO. Particularly after the story this week of someone cutting off their bracelet, maybe the Judge will ask how they are working in this case to track FD? IDK as I frankly have little confidence based on what we have learned that movements of the suspect are communicated to the Judge and State in a timely fashion by the monitoring company. We also get to see if the bracelet was moved to the wrist from the ankle of FD.

Not that I think Pattis has any shame but with all his patter about speedy trial it would be highly ironic to see a request for a continuance from him. But I truly think the Defense is scrambling to put together its story and is nowhere with a viable theory/alibi and will need time, particularly in light of the KM story becoming public. Pattis has to be steamed IMO about the KM story as it actively shows his client working to undermine an existing court order. Wonder also if we might see another conspiracy to commit murder charge added to FD list of charges for his role in seeming to lure Mrs KM to his house and suggesting a trip to Greece? Wonder if she had taken the suggestion to go to Greece if she would have returned home alive? IDK but this would add another level of complexity to an already complicated situation with the JD disappearance/murder IMO.

The KM aspect of this story has me wondering if it is connected to the need to keep the warrants sealed as well? I really wonder if surveillance and wiretaps could have been implemented and the entire story that Mrs KM told in court this week and which sadly seemed largely dismissed by that Judge, might feature prominently in brilliantly clear audio in criminal court at some future date? I do believe the net is closing in around FD and KM and perhaps others. Stranger things have happened. Will just have to wait.

MOO

Agree the net is slowly closing ... it just takes time wearing & honing it down ... Most LE today are really smart, highly educated, tech savvy... and they solve their cases! No one can hide from nefarious activity forever in today’s world

 

[Jmoose]

We have already seen him. Remember when NP tried to get his hands on FD's 401K? When NP tried to get bail decreased and PT tried to get it increased?

I forgot that was him. As the 7th of 12 children, he may understand a little about abuse (says the woman with 5 siblings of her own)-just worried that FD was going to get away, again, with abusing GF.

 

[afitzy]

IMO? No. I think it will be a huge letdown.
So hoping I am wrong.

This investigation is complex and covers alot of territory IMO so its going to be a long haul in the courts. My guess is that we will be treated to any number of continuances too, so will just have to roll with the process. MOO

 

[afitzy]

I forgot that was him. As the 7th of 12 children, he may understand a little about abuse (says the woman with 5 siblings of her own)-just worried that FD was going to get away, again, with abusing GF.

I guess we will have to wait and see with the Judge but my hope is that the gag is imposed and Judge retains control of his courtroom and that Pattis isn't allowed free rein to grandstand in court with his rambling public pronouncements that he is prone to do when he wants to buy time. Sometimes it seems like he has whole chapters of a Constitutional Law book memorized and can spout off at will and randomly and is just throwing smoke around the courtroom to confuse and mess with the jurors - usually Judges are smarter than jurors but sometimes not IMO! Big yawn on the Pattis courtroom patter IMO, but that is just me!

Personally I am curious to see if Pattis & Crew have the capability of trying a case in an actual courtroom vs in the 'courtroom' of public opinion via the press.

I have my personal doubts about No Case Norm and whether his brand of advocacy pays out for his clients, but will work hard to keep an open mind as to his capabilities in court until we see how this case moves.

I do hope his firms drafting skills are upped as the case/s moves through Criminal Court as a number of folks on here have commented about the style, substance and 'oh no' typos in his documents! His 5 page rambler of a document on the gag order was a snoozer IMO and could have been done in 3-4 solid paragraphs. Will have to see what the temperment of this Judge is too. He might let Pattis have free rein for awhile and then come down like a ton of bricks. Early days in the court watching the process is usually interesting! I don't believe this Judge will be a pushover but his early passivity IMO on the bracelets was concerning IMO.

So far IMO No Case Norm has been a style over substance kinda legal guy but we shall have to wait and see as I don't think he can be counted out at all IMO. Should make for interesting times in the pursuit of justice for JD!

MOO