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But from SW LE didn't find the bag.
The BMW search warrant return listed two backpacks.
But from SW LE didn't find the bag.
Especially, again, since the text came AFTER the pic of the money was sent. There is no way to take a photo of money before you actually receive it. LOL!!
Wait! So he's called in Virginia after the fire has already been reported to the fire department. He speeds over to the S house, texting AS and presumably SS on his way. When he arrives, police haven't yet put up crime scene tape? He was parked a block from the house, but still inside the tape? When does LE put up the tape? Wouldn't the tape have been put up before the fire department even left? They were still fighting the fire after they found the bodies. I would have thought they did that immediately, before JW could have gotten there. I guess I'm thinking if JW parked his car at the house after the firefighters arrived, he would have had to park far enough away that his car would not have been enclosed in the tape. It would help if we knew what time JW spoke to LE about his car inside the tape, what time the crime scene was cordoned off and the perimeter of the "crime scene as determined by LE and enclosed with tape.
If JW didn't park his car earlier in the day, help me figure out how the timeline would go.
JW arrives at the fire and parks his car a block from the house. After the fire is out, then LE puts up the crime scene tape, which includes the area outside where fire fighting and LE vehicles had been parked (because JW would not have been able to park inside the original perimeter while the fire fighters were working.) After arriving at the S house, JW stays for an undetermined amount of time and then leaves on foot or in another vehicle. JW comes back later, while LE is still on the scene, and tells them his car is parked within the crime scene tape.
Where did JW go during that time? Why would he rush to the scene of the fire, only to leave before hearing from LE/firefighters/neighbors/MSM what happened? According to another local poster, even friends and neighbors weren't sure of the victim's identities until later (although I find it hard to believe they weren't pretty sure - JMO) We saw NG in the corner of some of the early footage, already at the house while the fire was raging. She also drove over from Virginia after being told about the fire (supposedly by SS' mother), but I don't recall what town. She was cleaning someone else's house, because she had made arrangements earlier in the week to work at the dojo on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday instead of at the S house on Thursday. She can also be seen in later footage at dusk, so she was either there for hours or left and came back. Did JW leave with NG?
IF JW left his car earlier in the day, perhaps when he dropped off the money, did SS tell him to drive one of the other cars to Chantilly? Perhaps JW thought he might be driving SS somewhere later in the day? Was SS expected at the dojo on Thursday when it appears that people were being asked to pitch in because there was still so much work to do?
Of course the text came after. Police put approximately in the affidavit and were off by almost an hour.
Prosecutor knows full well when the text was actually send, and it was at 9:57 am.
Although I think he arrived there before the tape went up, I do think it's possible that the tape was up, he parked outside of it, but while he was away being questioned at the station, detective called officer security and they moved the tape to include JW's car due to suspicion because of lies and misstatements in the interview.
But what if he received some money ($20,000) at AIW in a manila envelope? Took the photo and texted it to W2. Then he and the accountant went to BoA to pick up the $40,000 that the accountant took out of his pockets, in bundles of $10,000 each and placed in JW's red bag. JW is seen at BoA at 9:50 am. He drives straight to the S house where he leaves $40,000 in the Mosler. What time did JW text "package delivered"? I can't find a link. TIA
It seems to me it was at a time that gave him just enough time to get to the Lowe's in Chantilly at 11:30. Where was JW between 12:00 and 1:40 when he called SS' phone, but received no answer?
But what if he received some money ($20,000) at AIW in a manila envelope? Took the photo and texted it to W2. Then he and the accountant went to BoA to pick up the $40,000 that the accountant took out of his pockets, in bundles of $10,000 each and placed in JW's red bag. JW is seen at BoA at 9:50 am. He drives straight to the S house where he leaves $40,000 in the Mosler. What time did JW text "package delivered"? I can't find a link. TIA
It seems to me it was at a time that gave him just enough time to get to the Lowe's in Chantilly at 11:30. Where was JW between 12:00 and 1:40 when he called SS' phone, but received no answer?
The BMW search warrant return listed two backpacks.
Well, that was kinda my point, but was trying to be nice, Lol
Something is wacky with the timing in this case. The math doesn't compute. Because if JW was at the bank at 9:50, according to DC folks, there is no possible way he could have gotten to the S house and completed the delivery before his 10:26 text to SS saying the package had been delivered.
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The BMW search warrant return listed two backpacks.
Yes, they were all inside the crime tape.View attachment 78477
That particular detective might have not known, but it's actually a red herring by the defense. Per prosecution, text to girlfriend went out at 9:57 am, after money were already picked up.
"The prosecution said the text actually came after the bank pick up, at 9:57. It noted that the text said, "my job is insane, don't tell anyone," which they said indicated that Wallace was surprised about what he was being asked to transport."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/detective-2-d-c-mansion-murder-victims-were-strangled/
I am sure by now other posters have answered your question, StMary, but I would like to add mine.
I have kept up with murder cases for over three decades. In every case since crime message boards came into existence I have only seen LE come out one time and specifically by name, rule someone out, and that was five days into the Jessica Ridgeway kidnapping, rape, and murder case when they ruled her parents out.
In all the other cases, even though LE was fully aware that certain individuals were being cast as a suspect on crime message boards or by commenters under articles, LE let them all twist in the wind even when they knew they had nothing to do with the crime. For example; Sierra Lamar's case. Many thought her mom and her mom's boyfriend were involved in Sierra's disappearance/murder. However; behind the scene, unbeknown to any of us they already had a suspect in their cross hairs. Not once though did they come out and save Marlene or Rick from being falsely accused. And there are so many other cases just like hers.
So IMO, LE is never going to come out and say that JW isn't involved. They wouldn't even if he hadn't lied to them. They just aren't in the public relations business. They know what the buzz is on the internet for they do read them but they really don't care what outsiders may think. All they care about is gathering the evidence to prove their cases BARD.
I have wished many times over the years that LE would have come out and outright told the public someone wasn't involved for it would have saved many from the pain of being falsely accused but it just doesn't happen in the real world.
Their sole purpose is to gather evidence, solve cases, arrest the suspect, and unfortunately it isn't being someone's advocate or someone's PR spokesperson.
So JW is on his own just like so many before him have been.
IIRC they stated the print had been ruled out as far as the standard footwear assigned to firemen. Further investigation revealed at least one fireman didn't wear his standard issue boots that day
Owens testified that the witness changed his story several times about how his boss contacted him to ask him to drop money off at the house. He said that at 9 a.m. on May 14, Wallace texted a picture of stacks of cash to a romantic partner, referred to as Witness 2 in court testimony.
The defense then showed footage from Bank of America surveillance cameras that show the money wasn't picked up from the bank until 9:40 a.m.
The prosecution said the text actually came after the bank pick up, at 9:57. It noted that the text said, "my job is insane, don't tell anyone," which they said indicated that Wallace was surprised about what he was being asked to transport.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/detective-2-d-c-mansion-murder-victims-were-strangled/#pq=uk6CKO