prima.facie
Long Time Member
- Joined
- Apr 27, 2012
- Messages
- 2,534
- Reaction score
- 2,582
ugh. it is taken me OVER a week to catch up on these posts/threads. I am still over on thread SIX. ugh. i am trying to read it ALL before i comment since things seem to be developing as time [quickly] passes by.
but there is one thing i want to address as it is being repeated over and over as a topic of debate.
DID J17 KNOW JUAN ???? DID J17 LIE IN REGARDS TO KNOWING/NOT KNOWING JUAN????
Since there seems to be an objective of picking apart every word and the meaning behind words....let us look at the definition of........know.
It seems some here want to apply one definition to 'know' and that is: BFF with said person, hung out with said person, had some face to face convo(s) with said person, etc.
but THAT is not the only definition of 'know'. In fact, based on all definitions of 'know', juror factually lied to EVERYONE if the simple question "do you know any of us" was asked and she didnt speak up. LIED. FLAT OUT LIED.
based on the following definitions (below)..........the quoted argument above is null and void. the attempt to defend J17 as being blissfully innocent in knowing who Juan is, has failed. any intelligent, logically thinking person cannot state that J17 did not 'know' Juan. That would be as probable as JSS being a reptilian from Saturn, thus her incompetence. Even if J17 happened to have seen Juan on the news in passing, she has...'knowledge' of Juan.
Majority of us had ZERO knowledge of Juan before Jodi........yet even after seeing his opening statement on our TV or computer screen....we all then 'knew' him.
This argument should be considered done. IMO, of course.
know
[noh]
verb (used with object), knew, known, knowing.
1.
to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty:
I know the situation fully.
2.
to have established or fixed in the mind or memory:
to know a poem by heart; Do you know the way to the park from here?
3.
to be cognizant or aware of:
I know it.
4.
be acquainted with (a thing, place, person, etc.), as by sight, experience, or report:
to know the mayor.
5.
to understand from experience or attainment (usually followed by how before an infinitive):
to know how to make gingerbread.
6.
to be able to distinguish, as one from another:
to know right from wrong.
7.
Archaic. to have sexual intercourse with.
verb (used without object), knew, known, knowing.
8.
to have knowledge or clear and certain perception, as of fact or truth.
9.
to be cognizant or aware, as of some fact, circumstance, or occurrence; have information, as about something.
noun
10.
the fact or state of knowing; knowledge.
Idioms
11.
in the know, possessing inside, secret, or special information.
12.
know the ropes, Informal. to understand or be familiar with the particulars of a subject or business:
He knew the ropes better than anyone else in politics.
but there is one thing i want to address as it is being repeated over and over as a topic of debate.
DID J17 KNOW JUAN ???? DID J17 LIE IN REGARDS TO KNOWING/NOT KNOWING JUAN????
Since there seems to be an objective of picking apart every word and the meaning behind words....let us look at the definition of........know.
It seems some here want to apply one definition to 'know' and that is: BFF with said person, hung out with said person, had some face to face convo(s) with said person, etc.
but THAT is not the only definition of 'know'. In fact, based on all definitions of 'know', juror factually lied to EVERYONE if the simple question "do you know any of us" was asked and she didnt speak up. LIED. FLAT OUT LIED.
based on the following definitions (below)..........the quoted argument above is null and void. the attempt to defend J17 as being blissfully innocent in knowing who Juan is, has failed. any intelligent, logically thinking person cannot state that J17 did not 'know' Juan. That would be as probable as JSS being a reptilian from Saturn, thus her incompetence. Even if J17 happened to have seen Juan on the news in passing, she has...'knowledge' of Juan.
Majority of us had ZERO knowledge of Juan before Jodi........yet even after seeing his opening statement on our TV or computer screen....we all then 'knew' him.
This argument should be considered done. IMO, of course.
know
[noh]
verb (used with object), knew, known, knowing.
1.
to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty:
I know the situation fully.
2.
to have established or fixed in the mind or memory:
to know a poem by heart; Do you know the way to the park from here?
3.
to be cognizant or aware of:
I know it.
4.
be acquainted with (a thing, place, person, etc.), as by sight, experience, or report:
to know the mayor.
5.
to understand from experience or attainment (usually followed by how before an infinitive):
to know how to make gingerbread.
6.
to be able to distinguish, as one from another:
to know right from wrong.
7.
Archaic. to have sexual intercourse with.
verb (used without object), knew, known, knowing.
8.
to have knowledge or clear and certain perception, as of fact or truth.
9.
to be cognizant or aware, as of some fact, circumstance, or occurrence; have information, as about something.
noun
10.
the fact or state of knowing; knowledge.
Idioms
11.
in the know, possessing inside, secret, or special information.
12.
know the ropes, Informal. to understand or be familiar with the particulars of a subject or business:
He knew the ropes better than anyone else in politics.
