Wiki: The game takes advantage of the iOS 10 update, which expands the way users can interact with Apple's Messages app.
While I understand and agree with that, this goes beyond actions, IMO.
Wow. Hopefully LE knows this too.
I agree with this to a point. I believe with some people that it's true that their "actions are their own and no longer the result of their upbringing". I also believe there are some people that who are totally affected by their upbringing. With SS's failure to launch, and his personality as we know of it, it makes me think he could be one of the latter. He seems to be pretty dependent on others, unable to hold a job, and prefers to sit around playing games and collecting and painting toys when he's not doing the unimaginable.
I think, they knew (if it is working like that), and they asked because of that.
Worth repeating
see what I mean, if hes behind this, he is as sneaky AF. and if true , this is the stuff that irritates me. Say you didnt know about the abuse all you want, but when your daughter is installing apps like that on the day of her birthday party are your senses so numb that you dont even question why shes wanting a multi player gaming app when shes going to a party. no curiosity? I know what kid's do, but the timing is off. These are the things parents should notice and just ask, no big deal. . Jenn has eyes but she does not appear to see.
He seems to have some development disabilities, JMO. His parents seem like decent people, maybe a little over indulgent, overprotective. I know kids and parents like this, they keep trying to help their kids grow and settle.
You are right, the timing for installing such a game was completely off! BUT there was a lot going on, what was so very off during this weekend, and JS of course had to know or to ask or to doubt and obviously didn't. Her preferred occupation was it, not to be present (at work) or to sleep. The rest she doesn't know.
I wish I could go back in time, kick him out of the townhouse, change the locks so he can't come back, move Maddie's stuff upstairs, show interest in what she was interested in, and shake some sense into JS.Interesting @Pruddennce ….. I too have often wondered what information MS’s phone will reveal.
I can’t remember the whole timeline, but we know IIRC that JS wasn’t at the birthday party for MS. And almost wonder if maybe someone phoned her with some information? What and when if so? Maybe before during, or after it? And IIRC there was suddenly a need for SS to assist JS at her residence. I also still want to know who initiated that request. And we also now know that even SS parents are indicating something that weekend ‘upset’ or made him alarmed. What was it? IMO it has to be something about his interactions with JS and MS and their involvement with him? And I also wonder might JS have deliberately avoided the birthday party because she was afraid of a confrontation? If so about what? (Pure speculation only, but once again….. MS was the one that suffered again…..)
Thinking after the fact, and reflecting now, it seems that SS was so ‘interested’ and aware of MS menstrual cycles for reasons other than her health IMO. And he had an awful lot of information and ‘interest’ in that for a non custodial and non biological parent. And he seems to ‘proudly’ ‘proclaim’ (my words) to others including investigators of his relationship with MS and her willingness to ‘confide’ in him (according to his words). SMH….. and yes, we do need another emoji……
Perhaps in time this will be more apparent. And maybe authorities have more information as to what seemed to have unfolded. And who was involved or aware and when? Maybe that proffer was because something is still known but not yet revealed?
Sadly, IMO all that is left are two extremely confusing and obfuscating individuals JS and SS. And dear poor MS has been the one that was lost. MOO
and maybe the timing seems off to me but not to a 13 yr old? its just that its something I noticed. I dont know if it was approved, but for that detective to have such specific information ( game pigeon) maybe it was just attempted?? IDK but these are the things im curious about. whether or. not jenn approved it is one thing, requesting it is another. I sound so suspicious, maybe over nothing, but I think he is a very covert sneaky manipulative person, ( well I guess thats not rocket science, we all know that) but his parents said it was a call that set him off on Saturday, then they said it was some sort of information he received that set him off. IDK maybe it's nothing, and before I go wildly speculating, I'll wait , those cell records and forensic phone data will speak volumes.
What, if SS sent MS this new toy as a birthday gift to grandma's address and planned for something sinister later on - THEN the big shock happened via a call and he had to start his "baby sitting journey".
I just think he is sneaky enough to have access to her phone remotely.
I agree. At one point, doesn't ds say she slept with ms when she was around because she didn't approve of the sleeping situation? She knew her son, why is she making herself the hero? If she were a hero she would've at least called child services to protect ms, or at least calm her own self proclaimed concern. She nor cs get any slack or pitty from me, they elude to knowing more and they did nothing but inable a monster. All imo.
I think they meant Maddie's area in the living room. The search was early on and I'm not sure the officers conducting the search realized that Maddie rarely spent time there (according to JS).
Yes, that is what they meant. Above the part of my post that you quoted it says: