Shannons Amma was having trouble uploading this so she sent it to me (needed to be resized I think) So here is the new picture.
On an aside to Logical mind and others. You can hear in the tone of your posts that you condemn Tina already and my problem with that is that you don't know what happened. All we have is SB's word that she gave her the baby. Tina insists that she did not. As I mentioned before, her apparent calm is not only an effect of her mental condition, but was possibly warranted as she mentioned in her 911 call that her 'sister in law' may have stopped by to pick her up and from the sound of it that was not unusual. There is absolutely no evidence right now that Tina gave SB the baby or knew that she had her during the search, so condemning her for wasted resources and not telling them who had her is not fair if she did not know anything to tell them. There is sure a hell of a lot more evidence against Caylee and those other childrens parents to form judgement over so comparing Tina to those cases in any way is nonsense. In this case there is nothing except her emotional detachment that makes you feel so cold towards her, and that is because of her emotional and mental handicaps. So again...I am not saying she didn't do anything wrong...none of us know that yet....but there is not a lick of evidence besides heresay and claims by a person we already know is a child abuser and possibly worse right now, and I bet she'd claim anything to get herself out of trouble. Kidnap? what? no! She gave me that baby!
Note that I dont call SB a murderer...because she was not convicted and I don't know what she did with Paul, if anything...apparently there wasn't enough evidence for the courts so while I may have my opinions my judgement of her is reserved to the facts which she admitted to, the horrible child abuse that she subjected Paul and Nina to. Despite all that she has caused in my family I will not pass judgement on situations that I do not know anything about, I will stick with the facts. I don't see how you are applying any logic to this situation and the point that you keep ignoring is that there is no evidence against her that we are aware of. The point you keep harping on is her calm which there is a documented explanation for that, which you just ignore. I don't know what else to say and I can't explain it any more clearly. I won't try again.
Happy Holidays to everyone here. I am going to see my family in Florida next week so I will be away from the computer until the new year. Be safe and thank you for the positive thoughts. Hopefully by the time I am back to work there will be news in Shannons custody and Tina's case. To put in ineloquently...waiting sucks.
No actually there is more evidence that Tina just gave her the baby....they have foot prints and tire tracks...someone saw the gray van
I think that Tina called 911 to appease Rusty....
and the state seems to think that also....
so many excuses...and explanations....and more excuses...but then again we have a right to post ideas/speculation and excuses, we have a right to our opinions
really in any of these "cases" none of us are privy to all the "facts" but we have opinions..and that is what I state here...and my opinion is that no matter how bad Susan Baker is , Tina gave up her own baby to her....she didn't know that the baby would end up in a box, BUT she surely could have told the cops where to look..and she didn't...and I think that is disgusting
why didn't the "family" or whoever get Tina help?
I saw where you have all said that you didn't "know" what was wrong with Tina,...well just from reading about Haleigh I think that Tina has some form of Turner's syndrome.....very short...ostepororis, bad eyes...stopped growing...
wide chest....small /receeding jaw..maybe teeth troubles
low set ears....(I saw even the social worker said that Shannons ears were low set..so are Tina's)...plus have ADHD !!! (This is JMO....an idea I am putting out there) They also CAN be a "handfull"....
Turner's...or a variation of it....can have various symptoms...some more obvious, some less so...it varies from girl to girl
not all Turner's girls are sterile...if the chromosome is not on all the genes they can have children (a minority of them) and the child is usually premature, and likely to also be Turner's syndrome and/or have problems
(Shannon- premature)
however....most families who have daughter's with this get these girls help....growth hormones...counseling....special ed if needed...and help them with their self esteem
I guess Tina never had any of that???
From what I have read there is NO indication that Turner's girls would be "mentally ill">> just maybe have low self esteem...but so many of them do very well! NO indication that they do criminal things or have more problems with drugs or whatever than anyone else...just as anyone can be an alcoholic or into drugs...I guess they can, but I didn't read anything about that
they often are quite bright, tho they may have trouble with math, etc
some of them have trouble expressing or seeing feelings (like you said that Tina looks mad when she isn't)...but many of them overcome that with loving families who work with them, and help them to overcome
Many of these women get the help they need..growth hormones...female hormones...they go on to careers...marry , often they adopt
hopefully with a GOOD family Shannon will get the attention and help that she needs
I find it kind of sadly ironic that the effort used in this wild goose chase could have been used to search for Haleigh
The picture of her is very cute....teddy bear much better "prop" than a bottle of orange sunkist soda
