FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #39

[New1]

I think they are making a mistake by not letting people know -- I mean I assume that it will have something to do with missing/murdered children but I still think it makes more sense to let the public know ... and maybe they will before March 27.

ETA
Molly Hatchet would not lure me in, but donating to a good cause would. I'd just to know what the cause was first.

Would the concert/walk/fundraiser lure you in to find out what the foundation is about?

 

[Noway]

Would the concert/walk/fundraiser lure you in to find out what the foundation is about?

Well, it might lure my money in (and really, that's the point of the event). My actual self remains in Montana.

ETA
And so I will have to wait until not only the kickoff but until the first report is made on the kickoff ... unless someone answers my email.

 

[Noway]

I think the Foundation does not exist yet, and that is why I cannot find information on it.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think the Foundation does not exist yet, and that is why I cannot find information on it.

I think you may be right.

I remember something saying the foundation kick off. So maybe this will be the first fundraiser for the foundation.
Maybe the previous fundraisers were for the family.

 

[Noway]

Maybe my mistake was in thinking they were a nonprofit organization -- that is what I've been trying to find.

ETA
I thought "Foundation" meant nonprofit but IRS did not have listed ... and I think I insulted the IRS man when I asked him if his database was up-to-date.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Maybe my mistake was in thinking they were a nonprofit organization -- that is what I've been trying to find.

ETA
I thought "Foundation" meant nonprofit but IRS did not have listed ... and I think I insulted the IRS man when I asked him if his database was up-to-date.

get ready for an audit next year!

I think you were right that it has not been established yet or has not received donations yet. Since the event is the foundations kick off.

 

[Noway]

Yes, I thought that someone was raising money for the Foundation in November but it does not look like that group was associated with Somer Thompson in an official capacity. IDK

 

[dannyodie]

http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/images/Child_stranger_abduction.pdf

thnks BeanE. thts the link norway. yes it is very interesting, I think that a pedophile is considered an adult that targets very young childern such as jh has with a three yr old. predators are ummmm people who commit sex crimes such as rape and child sexual abuse are commenly referred to as sexual predators, I myself place jh as a pedophile. so a victim like somer would be a choice target for him....

 

[karen in New York]

Maybe my mistake was in thinking they were a nonprofit organization -- that is what I've been trying to find.

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I thought "Foundation" meant nonprofit but IRS did not have listed ... and I think I insulted the IRS man when I asked him if his database was up-to-date.

In New York State all nonprofits are required to register with the charities bureau. They then receive a registration number. That number is then used on their IRS Tax Forms (990s). This bureau is part of NY State government. Run out of the State Attorney Generals Office. All registered charities are listed by name and number and that list is available online. Perhaps Florida is similar?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I wonder how much money the good people of florida will have to donate to Jarred Harrells defense fund and trial and his room and board for however long he gets?

The sad thing is the people don't have a choice to donate to his cause or not, they are forced to by the government.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I wonder how much money the good people of florida will have to donate to Jarred Harrells defense fund and trial and his room and board for however long he gets?

The sad thing is the people don't have a choice to donate to his cause or not, they are forced to by the government.

So true Doc!!!

 

[awakewriter]

http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/images/Child_stranger_abduction.pdf

The information about types of predators is very interesting.

For everyone's information, though, the strategy the author advocates for teaching your children about strangers is NOT what the Center for Missing and Exploited Children recommends.

SNIPPED from "Know the Rules...General Tips Parents and Guardians," a document distributed by the NCFMEC:

"Do not confuse children with the concept of “strangers.” Children do not have the same understanding of who a stranger is as an adult might. The “stranger-danger” message is not effective, as danger to children is often much greater from someone they or you know.

Practice what you talk about. You may think your children understand your message, but until they are able to incorporate it into their daily lives, it may not be clearly understood. Find opportunities to practice “what if” scenarios.
Teach your children it is more important to get out of a threatening situation than it is to be polite. They should be taught just because someone tries to engage them in conversation doesn't mean they should talk to that person or forget their safety rules. They also need to know it is okay to tell you what happened and they won’t be a tattletale."

Find more information here: http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...let?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=0#Resource_3

Sorry for the O/T, but I think the NCFMEC is working hard to get this message out, and it is important we all know.

 

[eyes4crime]

I wonder how much money the good people of florida will have to donate to Jarred Harrells defense fund and trial and his room and board for however long he gets?

The sad thing is the people don't have a choice to donate to his cause or not, they are forced to by the government.

That's okay - I'll donate. I'd rather pay the taxes so he can have a fair trial and a lawyer - otherwise, he walks on a technicality. That would be unacceptable. moo

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Bumping for Somer.

Hope to hear something soon.

 

[belimom]

The information about types of predators is very interesting.

For everyone's information, though, the strategy the author advocates for teaching your children about strangers is NOT what the Center for Missing and Exploited Children recommends.

SNIPPED from "Know the Rules...General Tips Parents and Guardians," a document distributed by the NCFMEC:

"Do not confuse children with the concept of “strangers.” Children do not have the same understanding of who a stranger is as an adult might. The “stranger-danger” message is not effective, as danger to children is often much greater from someone they or you know.

Practice what you talk about. You may think your children understand your message, but until they are able to incorporate it into their daily lives, it may not be clearly understood. Find opportunities to practice “what if” scenarios.
Teach your children it is more important to get out of a threatening situation than it is to be polite. They should be taught just because someone tries to engage them in conversation doesn't mean they should talk to that person or forget their safety rules. They also need to know it is okay to tell you what happened and they won’t be a tattletale."

Find more information here: http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...let?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=0#Resource_3

Sorry for the O/T, but I think the NCFMEC is working hard to get this message out, and it is important we all know.

Very true... Wonderful book on this subject: Protecting the Gift by Gavin De Becker, author of The Gift of Fear.

Some tips from the book:
- it will very likely be a stranger that saves your child if lost/alone/escaping a predator
- don't squelch their natural instinct as toddlers/young children to use physical force/retaliation to defend themselves
- teach children to find a woman (not a police officer) when in trouble (police officers aren't on every corner, but women are everywhere and much less likely to be predators - esp. a woman who has children with her)
- teach them to scream/make noise/kick/fight -- to bring attention to themselves in any way possible (predators want compliant victims so as not to draw attention)

There are many more points - I think I did a more thorough outline on Shaniya's thread. But well worth the read for everyone...

 

[redfish]

Bump, Bump!

 

[Noway]

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2008
May-November: Estimated Date. LE believes that on or between these dates, Jarred Harrell is guilty of committing the offense Lewd & Lascivious Molestation, Use of a Child in a Sexual Performance, and Promoting a Sexual Performance. Source

August: Just after Rod Buchanan's stepson turned 17, stepson sees *advertiser censored* on Jarred's computer (see video, 5:46 mark). This was at GLD II's house on Gano. Source Buchanan said his own stepson was playing on Harrell's computer last year and found some pornographic pictures. He told the adults in the family, but it was "kinda brushed under the rug," and no one reported it, Buchanan said. Source

August-November: Estimated Date. LE believes that on or between these dates, Jarred Harrell is guilty of committing the offense Lewd & Lascivious Molestation of a Child Under 12 and Producing/Performing Sexual Performance of a Child (12 counts). Source (page 8) Later reports showed that he lived at house on Gano, and victim's mother identified the room her daughter was in as Jarred Harrell's room at 11xx Gano. Source

2009
June: Estimated Date. Jarred Harrell is asked to move out of his parents' house. They want him to be on his own, be a man, and take care of himself. They call Rod Buchanan's stepdaughter and ask if he can move in with them and be a roommate; they say sure. Jarred moves in with Buchanan's stepdaughter and her fiancé. (Explanation is that Buchanan states, in response to how long did JH live with your stepdaughter, and says a couple of months, so JustyThoughts estimated at June 2009). Source Later that year, Harrell moved in with Buchanan's stepdaughter and her fiancé at an apartment a few miles away. Source

August 4: Roommates kick Jarred Harrell out for stealing, specifically their iPod. Source According to Rod Buchanan, he asks if they can keep his computer until he finds somewhere to go. Source (Note: Any idea where he went? Back to mom? Sister's? Thoughts, anyone?)

August 10: They do not hear from him, and the discussion comes up about there having been child *advertiser censored* found on his computer about a year ago by Rod Buchanan's stepson (a minor at the time). They get on the computer and find *advertiser censored* on computer. Source Roommates bring computer to Jacksonville Sheriffs Office, who determined it was out of their jurisdiction. Source JSO turns it over to CCSO, and Fred Eckert takes over. Source Rod Buchanan: And we took it to JSO (Jacksonville Sheriffs Office) thinking that was where we needed to take it. Once we handed everything over to JSO, they then sent it back to Clay County to be processed, and Detective Eckert took over from there.

August 13: Computer then turned over to CCSO by JSO. Source

September 25: Computer turned over to SAG Cyber Crimes Unit. They were not able to begin taking it apart to do forensic testing on it until October 9. Source

October 5: Estimated Date Jarred Harrell's mom (AD) and stepdad (GLD II) move out of their house on Gano, to Callahan, FL. Source (link broken) Buchanan said he was shocked to learn that Harrell's parents had moved out two weeks before Somer Thompson was reported missing, but Harrell still lived at the home. Source It is believed they took the dog and the shed with them. No Source Yet.

October 9: SAG Cyber Crimes Unit begins forensic testing on Jarred Harrell's computer. Source

October 19: Somer Thompson disappears. Source

October 21: Somer Thompson's body found in GA. Source

October 23: Rod Buchanan and his wife drive by Gano house and see Jarred Harrel's vehicle in the drivway. They stop a CCSO deputy, explain their concerns and he brings them to the lead detective, who has the deputy go back and run the tags; it is Jarred Harrel's vehicle, and he has been living there. Source

November 12: Analysis completed November 10; SAG returns computer to CCSO with report. Source

Unknown Date: Jarred Harrell is asked to provide DNA. He is uncooperative, and in January, FBI visits his father Howard Harrell, in Mississippi. Source

December 1: Estimated date. Jarred moves out house at 1152. Source (~page 5 of comments) sheeshisamoron wrote: noexistanz, Harell moved into the house on gano ave in august and he moved out december 1 of 09. I saw the fat *advertiser censored** move out that day because it was the same day i moved out of the neighborhood. I can only assume he moved to mississippi at that time. (Note: I believe at this point, he moved to Callahan with his mom, stepfather, and stepbrothers. No source.)

2010
January 6: Estimated date. FBI asks Howard Harrell for DNA. LUCEDALE, Miss. — Loretta Harrell answered a knock at her ranch-style home in the deep Mississippi woods six weeks ago to find two strangers standing outside.The men told Harrell they were FBI agents and asked to speak to her husband about his son, Jarred. Startled, Jarred’s stepmother shut and locked the door and called for her husband, a local prison guard. ... The FBI agents told [Howard] Harrell that Jarred wasn’t cooperating with a criminal investigation in Florida, where he’d spent time with his birth mother and her newest husband. They said Jarred fit a profile, but didn’t say of what, and asked his father for a DNA sample. (I believe article was posted on 2/17; that is date comments began.) Source

January 22: Estimated date. Jarred Harrell moves to Meridian, Mississippi. "His family said Harrell just moved back to Mississippi a few weeks ago." Source Harrell was arrested Thursday in Meridian, Miss., where he moved about three weeks ago [date of article February 12], and charged with 29 counts of possession of child *advertiser censored*. He was being held in Mississippi on $1 million bond and Lauderdale County Sheriff Billy Sollie said he did not yet have an attorney. Source

February 11: Jarred Harrell arrested in Meridian, MS, on child *advertiser censored* charges. Source

February 11: Homes on Gano Avenue, Orange Park, FL, in Callahan, FL, and in Meridian, MS, were searched along with a vehicle in Meridian, MS. Source

February 11: Investigators find SD card with child pornographical images during their search of his mother's home in Callahan, where he also stayed. The most recent batch of photos and the video were discovered two weeks [Februry 11] ago by investigators during their investigation into the molestation and *advertiser censored* case, according to the warrant, obtained by First Coast News, the Times-Union's news partner. The images were on a digital camera’s disc found in a Callahan home where Harrell also stayed. Source

February 18: Florida Governor Charlie Crist asks Mississippi Governor to extradite Jarred Harrell. Source

February 20: Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour agrees to extradite Jarred Harrell. Source

February 23: Jarred Harrell extradited from Mississippi to Florida. Source His arrest date on the Clay County inmate info page is shown as February 23. Source

February 24: Jarred Harrell arrives in Clay County. Harrell left the jail in Meridian, Miss., in a police caravan of one truck and two cars around 10 a.m. Tuesday, arriving at the Clay County Jail at 1:20 a.m. Wednesday. Three cars drove quickly into the jail. Source

February 24: Jarred Harrell appears before judge. Arraignment set for March 10. Bond $1 million. Source

February 24: Jarred Harrell new charges added: Lews and Lascivious Molestation and Direct/Promote Sexual Performance by a Child plus original charge of Possess Photograph of Sexual Performance by a Child (CCSO Inmate inquiry indicates Total Bond as $1,600,003.00) Media reports indicate that Harrell is being held without bond.

February 24: New warrant issued. Warrant Total bond amount says Total Bond Amount: $1,600,039.00 although he is being held without bond on one of the charges. Source (Note: If link times out, go to http://p2c.claysheriff.com/jailinmates.aspx and type in his name.)

March 9: Additional charges are brought against Jarred Harrell. LE believes that on or between May 2008 and November 2008, Jarred Harrell is guilty of committing the offense Lewd & Lascivious Molestation, Use of a Child in a Sexual Performance, and Promoting a Sexual Performance. Source

March 10: Jarred Harrell's next court date. Name: HARRELL, JARRED MITCHELL Date of Birth: 7/24/1985 Age: 24 Race / Sex: W/M Arrest Date: 2/23/2010 Release Date: Left Blank Next Court Date: 3/10/2010 Source

March 10: Jarred Harrell pleaded not guilty in Clay County court to 55 counts of child *advertiser censored*, including two counts of molesting a young girl. Source

April 8: Jarred Harrel's next court date. Source

 

[Noway]

Just hoping to jump-start a media frenzy by posting this.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Bumping for our girl!

 

[Noway]

I see what an effort it must be for the families of missing/murdered loved ones -- trying to keep their story in the public eye when there are not updates in the case.

Hoping there is something new as March 19 approaches.