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Home invasions happen in the best of neighborhoods. Having a bedside safe only large enough to hold a handgun is due to the children in the household. Responsible home owners not only install security systems, many go a step further and have firearms for home protection. It has nothing to do with military service or high crime childhoods.

Agree. Most people are in bed or close to a room when a home invasion is about to occur. Now dialing 911 and giving the dispatch details while everything is hitting the fan can be very overwhelming to all.

So having accessible guns in certain areas depending on the size of your home; Is okay by me. Jmo
 
Agree. Most people are in bed or close to a room when a home invasion is about to occur. Now dialing 911 and giving the dispatch details while everything is hitting the fan can be very overwhelming to all.

So having accessible guns in certain areas depending on the size of your home; Is okay by me. Jmo

Hi Dex, good to see you. I was just thinking of you yesterday. I have no problem with a gun or gun safe on a nightstand.

My main point was first the amount of safes in the home and that I think in terms of Helpers comments that there is more to the story in terms of this particular situation with Mark Sievers.

Care to comment on my other post, I'm unsure what 'normal' is in regards to the amount of safes he had?
 
Hi Dex, good to see you. I was just thinking of you yesterday. I have no problem with a gun or gun safe on a nightstand.

My main point was first the amount of safes in the home and that I think in terms of Helpers comments that there is more to the story in terms of this particular situation with Mark Sievers.

Care to comment on my other post, I'm unsure what 'normal' is in regards to the amount of safes he had?

Hi Frigga. Good to see you all are still at it. And you're right about him having too many safes. Especially how junky they seem. One chest could store all the unused guns alone. Most safes consist of cash and bonds and personal documents or family momentums. But his safes seem like junk draws. Jmo
 
Home invasions happen in the best of neighborhoods. Having a bedside safe only large enough to hold a handgun is due to the children in the household. Responsible home owners not only install security systems, many go a step further and have firearms for home protection. It has nothing to do with military service or high crime childhoods.

This is very true. Recently, within the last few years, there were a series of very violent home invasions in Naples. Naples is very close to Bonita. I think the majority of them happened between 2014-2015. That particular ring of thieves were targeting more affluent families. I know many people who purchased guns during and after that time. Everyone was on edge.
 
Hi Frigga. Good to see you all are still at it. And you're right about him having too many safes. Especially how junky they seem. One chest could store all the unused guns alone. Most safes consist of cash and bonds and personal documents or family momentums. But his safes seem like junk draws. Jmo

"Junk drawers" , that's calling it right. MS was a slob and his plans were even more sloppy than the storage of his "personal wealth " assuming that he values it. Seriously thinking that he compromised the practice with his poor management skills and left a lot of loose ends....I would love to see his bank account and it's transactions.
 
^^^ Oooh- good thinking. I bet we would learn a lot.
 
If your gun is in a bedside safe, how are you going to get it out quickly in the dark?

I have never been around guns and am terrified of them. I fear I would be so scared the intruder would be the last thing I would aim for. So of course, he would have not only me but my gun too!
 
Our bedside handgun safe has a finger pad. You only have to slip in the finger you set up the safe with and when it matches it's sensor the safe opens. This way it can't be tampered with and you can leave your hand gun in it loaded and ready safely. You don't need lights on, just reach in your hand and remember which finger you used and wallah it's open.
 
Supposedly they were living payday to payday. So if its true MS had $40,000 in a safe, why? Really. Why would anyone want to keep that much money at home? Could it have been money from an illegal activity?
 
Supposedly they were living payday to payday. So if its true MS had $40,000 in a safe, why? Really. Why would anyone want to keep that much money at home? Could it have been money from an illegal activity?

Well, of course it could. It also could have been legal income from the medical practice "skimmed" over the years in order to avoid paying taxes on it. When people pay cash for goods or services, one is obligated to report that cash as income to the business. If you just take money home and don't account for it on the books for the business that is called "skimming cash". And it is illegal and makes the IRS real mad at you.

Which is why I posted that after admitting to LE that he had $40K cash in a safe inside the home, MS will have an even bigger problem with the IRS than he already had. The IRS WILL want to know the source of that money.
 
Supposedly they were living payday to payday. So if its true MS had $40,000 in a safe, why? Really. Why would anyone want to keep that much money at home? Could it have been money from an illegal activity?

I think the $40,000 is from the practice since he ran the office part of it and technically the money is not his but had it at home for some reason.....this is why I wish we has access to bank statements from the practice and his personal one.......
 
Well, of course it could. It also could have been legal income from the medical practice "skimmed" over the years in order to avoid paying taxes on it. When people pay cash for goods or services, one is obligated to report that cash as income to the business. If you just take money home and don't account for it on the books for the business that is called "skimming cash". And it is illegal and makes the IRS real mad at you.

Which is why I posted that after admitting to LE that he had $40K cash in a safe inside the home, MS will have an even bigger problem with the IRS than he already had. The IRS WILL want to know the source of that money.

i agree entirely...skimmed out of the business for a rainy day...

...like the day your income stops because you paid someone to beat your wife to death

JMO
 
I don't think this is important, but for some inexplicable reason I decided I needed to know what currency this is.

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It's a 20 Shekel (Israeli) note.

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It's worth about $5, so I doubt it's stashed away to start a new life in Israel.

https://drive.google.com/folderview...sp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0
 
Respectfully removed the images to save space.

I don't think this is important, but for some inexplicable reason I decided I needed to know what currency this is.

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/751e/aboeij2wtvafdcczg.jpg

It's a 20 Shekel (Israeli) note.

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b8eb/c46luqu535q7iypzg.jpg

It's worth about $5, so I doubt it's stashed away to start a new life in Israel.

https://drive.google.com/folderview...sp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0

Good job, Legally Bland.
While that is true, MS had at least a minor understanding of the value of currency.
IE - The top $100 banknote has a star by the number and, by collectors' standards, it is a not a fairly low number: HL 18589835*. It appears to be in good but not uncirculated condition. At least MS knew to keep it in an airtight container (the plastic bag) for preservation purposes.

Star notes:
A replacement banknote is a banknote that is printed to replace a faulty one and is used as a control mechanism for governments or monetary authorities to know the exact number of banknotes being printed. Also, since no two serial numbers can be the same,[citation needed] the bill is simply reprinted with a symbol in the serial number, identifying it as a replacement for an error note. Replacement bills have different symbols to mark the error around the world, although the most popular examples are "star notes".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replacement_banknote

"Star notes are a highly collectible subset of United States currency."
Read more for exceptions and specifications.
http://www.oldcurrencyvalues.com/Value_Of_Star_Notes.html

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https://drive.google.com/folderview...sp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0

In this photo, the Investigator was obviously more interested in the title of the tape than in the currency itself. In the plastic protective sleeves, the top coin is a Walking Liberty silver dollar. Without seeing more of the coin, it is difficult to state its value other than to say its worth one ounce of silver which is equivalent in today's market to $14.00. However, this coin's value in uncirculated condition, depending upon the date, could be worth $59.00.
http://www.govmint.com/2015-1-dolla...r-uWE9oWmMfSUCAt3NkLFSLPQTc9F9MCJMaAv9j8P8HAQ

There appears to be at least a small stack or two of similar silver coins along with coins in paper inserts that are stapled after the coin was inserted that have a plastic surface for viewing the coin's condition. Most often, coins presented in this fashion have been purchased at a Coin Club meeting or Coin and Currency Show. A pawn shop would also have these for sale while displayed under glass.

https://drive.google.com/folderview...sp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0

This photo appears to reveal a sample set of Israeli coins and possibly US collectable gold coins. No close-up available.
https://drive.google.com/folderview...sp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0

Uncut sheets of uncirculated coins of unknown country's origin
https://drive.google.com/folderview...sp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0

The 4 passports indicate that as a family they traveled overseas. The $2 bills are worth about $2.25ea. I can't view enough of the ten dollar banknote to know its possible value. It doesn't appear to be rare and is in fair to poor circulation condition.
https://drive.google.com/folderview...sp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0

Without a doubt the authorities have called in a coin and currency specialist to place a value on the collection. Although, as Legally Bland has stated, it doesn't appear to be a stash of highly significant value but I hope you've learned a little more about the history of coin and currency values :seeya:

:moo:
 
Wow DEDEE...that was interesting to read! Amazing how much info you were able to supply from just a few photos. You are now my official numismatist.
(You know what you get when you cross a numismatist with a philatelist?......"A stamp that can pay its own way!"
....oh groan???.... That joke went over big at the last MENSA ice cream social.:drumroll:)

So, Dedee besides the "numismatic angle"....are we looking at a skimmer, miser, creditor avoidance, or a person hoarding before a divorce? What was your first impression?
From the ONE PHOTO alone, where all the envelopes are lined up (assuming) cash, and two small stacks of $100 bills wrapped in "violet currency tape originally used for 20's" ....I already count close to $40,000 dollars, if I add up the amounts handwritten on the envelopes. That is the amount told to investigators....However, I don't think that included the value of collectibles, gold coins or items in covered containers.
If someone asked, "How much cash do you have in the safe?" He could honestly assert about $40K in cash. And not mention/sidestep the $20,000 plus in collectible bills, gold & silver coins or cash drawers...etc.
[url]https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B717FUtKwdU8NWl1Y2NBemZGT00&usp=drive_web&tid=0B717FUtKwdU8VjNJU2JYclg5Mk0[/url]
Photo #27 if you are counting 5 to a row
 
Wow DEDEE...that was interesting to read! Amazing how much info you were able to supply from just a few photos. You are now my official numismatist.
(You know what you get when you cross a numismatist with a philatelist?......"A stamp that can pay its own way!"
....oh groan???.... That joke went over big at the last MENSA ice cream social.:drumroll:)

So, Dedee besides the "numismatic angle"....are we looking at a skimmer, miser, creditor avoidance, or a person hoarding before a divorce? What was your first impression?

Enjoyed the joke, btw. :loveyou: I possess a nice collection of stamps. My personal collection of postcards is my favorite since it contains rare vintage "Hold to Light" postcards. One is from the first World's Fair held in St Louis in 1904. I rank it as extraordinary.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hol...KA#tbm=isch&q=hold+to+light+postcards+vintage

While on this topic, I have a few Hobo nickels whereby a hobo, during the depression, would take the Indian head nickel and change it into a piece of art. Hobos would then trade this Indian head nickel turned art piece for, perhaps, a loaf of bread or food of some kind. One, in particular that I own, is of Santa Claus. My family knows it is never to be sold but to be passed down through generations.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hob...S6TA18Q_AUIBygC#tbm=isch&q=hobo+nickels+Santa

Many collections are worth what the owner values them to be simply for the pleasure of ownership. Some enjoy the hobby of collecting coins and currency immensely. Some have walk in fireproof vaults of their multi-million dollar treasures hidden inside their homes. Many of these high dollar treasures are made by cash purchases and may include rare items such as Civil War swords.

All of that to say, MS cared little for his collection, jmho. It was not a passion. He may have inherited some of the encased coins. I think the Walking Liberty(s) is from 2015 and purchased with cash for monetary value as a method to hide income. The $100 star banknote possibly came from payments via the office. He held it out of deposits since it is valued at more than $100.

To answer your question more specifically, IQuestion:
"So, Dedee besides the "numismatic angle"....are we looking at a skimmer, miser, creditor avoidance, or a person hoarding before a divorce? What was your first impression?"

It is all of the above except he may not be a miser. MS purchased things that mattered to him whether it be electronic equipment, trips abroad, a nanny or tutor for the children and quite possibly sex. I was truly perplexed to view wrinkled one dollar bills in the cache of the safes. He used a huge water bottle in his office for that purpose. So, this guy possessed money, without organizing it, but with a true intention and purpose in mind.

Also of interest, is MS thought he could replace his lovely wife with another like-minded doctor within a week of her death according to their website and emails he sent to patients. He did not expect to miss a beat in the cash only health-care business.

What does surprise me is that prior to her death, that MS did not hide some of his wealth in another place away from prying eyes. And he may have. We just don't know it yet. His already searched MO condo comes to mind. Could a hole be dug under the deck and a safe hidden there? MS could have had a dual purpose for visiting MO for his bff's wedding in May. Or is a safe hidden in his mom's backyard?

I feel there is more money stashed elsewhere. He had to know with Teresa's murder occurring inside the home, that it would be searched thoroughly. Ironically, enough cash was found to cover the IRS debt of $40k and, perplexing enough, MS didn't even bother to ditch the marijuana.

JMHOO
 
Enjoyed the joke, btw. :loveyou: I possess a nice collection of stamps. My personal collection of postcards is my favorite since it contains rare vintage "Hold to Light" postcards. One is from the first World's Fair held in St Louis in 1904. I rank it as extraordinary.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hol...KA#tbm=isch&q=hold+to+light+postcards+vintage
Thank you for sharing...beautifu!
While on this topic, I have a few Hobo nickels whereby a hobo, during the depression, would take the Indian head nickel and change it into a piece of art. Hobos would then trade this Indian head nickel turned art piece for, perhaps, a loaf of bread or food of some kind. One, in particular that I own, is of Santa Claus. My family knows it is never to be sold but to be passed down through generations.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hob...S6TA18Q_AUIBygC#tbm=isch&q=hobo+nickels+Santa
FASCINATING HISTORY on so many levels!

Many collections are worth what the owner values them to be simply for the pleasure of ownership. Some enjoy the hobby of collecting coins and currency immensely. Some have walk in fireproof vaults of their multi-million dollar treasures hidden inside their homes. Many of these high dollar treasures are made by cash purchases and may include rare items such as Civil War swords.

All of that to say, MS cared little for his collection, jmho. It was not a passion. He may have inherited some of the encased coins. I think the Walking Liberty(s) is from 2015 and purchased with cash for monetary value as a method to hide income. The $100 star banknote possibly came from payments via the office. He held it out of deposits since it is valued at more than $100.
So, he has a keen interest in MONEY...but not as a collector, rather an ACCUMULATOR, right on!
To answer your question more specifically, IQuestion:
"So, Dedee besides the "numismatic angle"....are we looking at a skimmer, miser, creditor avoidance, or a person hoarding before a divorce? What was your first impression?"

It is all of the above except he may not be a miser. MS purchased things that mattered to him (insightful observation) whether it be electronic equipment, trips abroad, a nanny or tutor for the children and quite possibly sex. (Secret lifestyles can be expensive.) I was truly perplexed to view wrinkled one dollar bills in the cache of the safes. He used a huge water bottle in his office for that purpose. So, this guy possessed money, without organizing it, but with a true intention and purpose in mind.

Also of interest, is MS thought he could replace his lovely wife with another like-minded doctor within a week of her death according to their website and emails he sent to patients. He did not expect to miss a beat in the cash only health-care business. (I hadn't entertained that train of thought but you may be onto a possible motive....replace the individual but NOT THE SOURCE! interesting.)

What does surprise me is that prior to her death, that MS did not hide some of his wealth in another place away from prying eyes. (attempt to divert suspicion??) And he may have. We just don't know it yet. His already searched MO condo comes to mind. Could a hole be dug under the deck and a safe hidden there? MS could have had a dual purpose for visiting MO for his bff's wedding in May. Or is a safe hidden in his mom's backyard?

I feel there is more money stashed elsewhere. BINGO!!He had to know with Teresa's murder occurring inside the home, that it would be searched thoroughly. Ironically, enough cash was found to cover the IRS debt of $40k and, perplexing enough, MS didn't even bother to ditch the marijuana. (Oh so AGREE....Again diversion....A little bit of marijuana gives the impression of, "I'm not hiding anything! At least not enough to get me in any real trouble???")

JMHOO
DEDEE bbm above and comments in red. Your impressions and explanations are exactly what I was looking for from someone like you! You are a great sport to share it all with us. I have always felt "a crime scene may yield a lot of physical evidence" but the environment in which the crime takes place, provides a huge amount of psychological evidence, as well! The victim enters the one place, their home, where THEY SHOULD FEEL PROTECTED AND SAFE....thereby easily LURING the victim into a blitzkrieg attack and optimizing the advantage of her killers.
It makes my soul feel so sad because she put so many things in place to protect herself....and all for naught.
 
My first thought on LE ordering MS to open the safes was for them to check for bloody items used in her murder. Even though he had an alibi, police have heard false alibis too many times.
 
Enjoyed the joke, btw. :loveyou: I possess a nice collection of stamps. My personal collection of postcards is my favorite since it contains rare vintage "Hold to Light" postcards. One is from the first World's Fair held in St Louis in 1904. I rank it as extraordinary.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hol...KA#tbm=isch&q=hold+to+light+postcards+vintage

While on this topic, I have a few Hobo nickels whereby a hobo, during the depression, would take the Indian head nickel and change it into a piece of art. Hobos would then trade this Indian head nickel turned art piece for, perhaps, a loaf of bread or food of some kind. One, in particular that I own, is of Santa Claus. My family knows it is never to be sold but to be passed down through generations.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hob...S6TA18Q_AUIBygC#tbm=isch&q=hobo+nickels+Santa

Many collections are worth what the owner values them to be simply for the pleasure of ownership. Some enjoy the hobby of collecting coins and currency immensely. Some have walk in fireproof vaults of their multi-million dollar treasures hidden inside their homes. Many of these high dollar treasures are made by cash purchases and may include rare items such as Civil War swords.

All of that to say, MS cared little for his collection, jmho. It was not a passion. He may have inherited some of the encased coins. I think the Walking Liberty(s) is from 2015 and purchased with cash for monetary value as a method to hide income. The $100 star banknote possibly came from payments via the office. He held it out of deposits since it is valued at more than $100.

To answer your question more specifically, IQuestion:
"So, Dedee besides the "numismatic angle"....are we looking at a skimmer, miser, creditor avoidance, or a person hoarding before a divorce? What was your first impression?"

It is all of the above except he may not be a miser. MS purchased things that mattered to him whether it be electronic equipment, trips abroad, a nanny or tutor for the children and quite possibly sex. I was truly perplexed to view wrinkled one dollar bills in the cache of the safes. He used a huge water bottle in his office for that purpose. So, this guy possessed money, without organizing it, but with a true intention and purpose in mind.

Also of interest, is MS thought he could replace his lovely wife with another like-minded doctor within a week of her death according to their website and emails he sent to patients. He did not expect to miss a beat in the cash only health-care business.

What does surprise me is that prior to her death, that MS did not hide some of his wealth in another place away from prying eyes. And he may have. We just don't know it yet. His already searched MO condo comes to mind. Could a hole be dug under the deck and a safe hidden there? MS could have had a dual purpose for visiting MO for his bff's wedding in May. Or is a safe hidden in his mom's backyard?

I feel there is more money stashed elsewhere. He had to know with Teresa's murder occurring inside the home, that it would be searched thoroughly. Ironically, enough cash was found to cover the IRS debt of $40k and, perplexing enough, MS didn't even bother to ditch the marijuana.

JMHOO

In addition to the $100 being a star note, it's also not bad if you're playing the popular bar game of poker using serial numbers from the bills--& I see three of a kind and a pair with this particular bill (3 8's & 2 5's)
 
I haven't posted in awhile but have been following along, mainly waiting for more docs! Just a general comment though- for a man with a lien against his house- what's up with all the safes? Rhetorical question but now that we know he defaulted on his office rent and didn't pay taxes- really??


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