FWIW, I also think the whole **back door propped open with a cinder block** is of NO signifigance. I believe Misty staged that.
Me too Love -- I thought that since I read Tuba's Moon Rise chart earlier today. That Haleigh was abducted much earlier than reported...sometime before 6:30, and that Misty was freaked out that Ronald would kill her for letting it happen (not her fault - his perception). She probably sweated all those hours cooking up what she'd tell him so he wouldn't yell at her, and that's what she arrived at...the cinderblock and the abduction from bed.
I think one of her brother's friends took Haleigh...either that or she was distracted with the visitors and someone (an acquaintance or friend) took her. I sincerely hope that LE has interviewed her brother and these 'friends'.
FWIW, I also think the whole **back door propped open with a cinder block** is of NO signifigance. I believe Misty staged that.
Me too Love -- I thought that since I read Tuba's Moon Rise chart earlier today. That Haleigh was abducted much earlier than reported...sometime before 6:30, and that Misty was freaked out that Ronald would kill her for letting it happen (not her fault - his perception). She probably sweated all those hours cooking up what she'd tell him so he wouldn't yell at her, and that's what she arrived at...the cinderblock and the abduction from bed.
I think one of her brother's friends took Haleigh...either that or she was distracted with the visitors and someone (an acquaintance or friend) took her. I sincerely hope that LE has interviewed her brother and these 'friends'.
Do you think it would help if we searched for the brothers' birthdates?
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Originally Posted by Lovejac
Another thought, Tuba!
Kaitland's chart was for 5:15 pm
Your moonrise chart was for 6:32 pm
So, Kaleigh was taken between 5:15 pm and 6:32 pm, that narrows "IT" down.
I thought the same thing Love! Great reasoning!
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Not necessarily taken between those time frames. Tuba's chart turned the spotlight on the stage for the crime to take place; the machinations of which were probably already in motion, i.e., company in the house, workman in the house, distractions, past documentation of drug usage in this family, and CPA issues. My chart showed a little more about the people in the house before bedtime. Highly unstable environment.
We do not have a clear time line yet for when Haleigh was last seen by anyone other than her father (before he left for work) and Misty (when she put her to bed at 8pm? or 10pm?) . No public statement from Misty's brother or friends as to the location of Haleigh during their visit. No statement from the A/C man. However, if she was already gone at that time - I think the A/C man would have spilled those beans already. Surely LP would have found out!! HE, is conspicuously quiet, except for the $$ offer.
Soulscape did an analysis of the last seen chart for 10pm.
Tuba -if you meant otherwise, please pipe up!
I thought the same thing Love! Great reasoning!
Tuba, I generally don't get urges to vomit when reading one of your charts but this chart was an exception.
I ran your chart thru my software to find SUN/MOON 20:55 Sag parallel BLACK MOON LILITH applying within 2 minutes of Arc, and Part of Death at 15:52 Taurus conj. 2nd House cusp opposite 8th House of Death and inconjunct the MOON, Part of MISfortune in radix 8th House of Death trining VENUS the Child in woefull 12th House, malefic SOUTH NODE in 5th House of the Child.
I am sickened beyond words. I fear what will be found is a dead child.
Thanks,
Soulscape
On HLN commentary tonight one of the experts commented that if this crime happened as Misty claims it did, and the perpetrator entered the home and took Haleigh from the same room that two other people were sleeping in, then we are dealing with a very, very dangerous and usually homicidal sexual predator. This was a high risk abduction, and an inexperienced person would not attempt such brazeness.
They also talked about the high likelihood that the household floor plan and set us was known to the perpetrator - no bumbling about in the dark with chance of waking someone up. He knew their habits, and where the child would be.
I share your fear. Let's pray to be wrong this time.
FWIW, I also think the whole **back door propped open with a cinder block** is of NO signifigance. I believe Misty staged that.
Me too Love -- I thought that since I read Tuba's Moon Rise chart earlier today. That Haleigh was abducted much earlier than reported...sometime before 6:30, and that Misty was freaked out that Ronald would kill her for letting it happen (not her fault - his perception). She probably sweated all those hours cooking up what she'd tell him so he wouldn't yell at her, and that's what she arrived at...the cinderblock and the abduction from bed.
No.
I think one of her brother's friends took Haleigh...either that or she was distracted with the visitors and someone (an acquaintance or friend) took her. I sincerely hope that LE has interviewed her brother and these 'friends'.
Your entire post is what I think also.
What sickens me is the thought that things would have been different if she had not waited until 3:30 am, and gave the evil sick-o so much time to get as far as he needed too.
Also, I imagine the dogs that tracked her scent would have better luck if the trail hadn't been 15 hours old.
I am now leaning towards this, also.:frown:
On HLN commentary tonight one of the experts commented that if this crime happened as Misty claims it did, and the perpetrator entered the home and took Haleigh from the same room that two other people were sleeping in, then we are dealing with a very, very dangerous and usually homicidal sexual predator. This was a high risk abduction, and an inexperienced person would not attempt such brazeness.
They also talked about the high likelihood that the household floor plan and set us was known to the perpetrator - no bumbling about in the dark with chance of waking someone up. He knew their habits, and where the child would be.
I share your fear. Let's pray to be wrong this time.
My comments in red:
No.
I'm reserving judgement on this one, although the Charts seem to repeat the *friend* angle...
No, I do not think she waited with secret knowledge.
No, see above.
Yes. While Misty may have confused herself regarding the time she put Haleigh to bed, I believe she did in fact put the child to bed and I believe she did not realize Haleigh was gone until she woke up around 3:00 am on 2/10/09.
While it is possible all of the Astrologers including myself have misread the charts, it is unlikely. I have another chart I will share with you tomorrow, as sickening as the ones we have looked at today, that supports what I am saying. I am too tired to stay up and post it now.
Thanks,
Soulscape
I'm praying with you Lovejac.
Thank you for being so warm and inviting to my post. I do not aspire to learn forensic astrology but when I sign on to WS this forum is my first visit every morning.
I have come to deeply admire and respect the work of so many here. My gratitude is not only for the time and dedication they give in providing charts but there consideration in translating those charts for us that do not understand. I am humbled and grateful to each and every one of you :blowkiss:
I thought that perhaps when a chart is drawn up that the birth place might be needed? I hope I am not presuming too much about how these charts are constructed.
I found an article today in which Misty talked about herself.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293/1008/WEATHER?Title=Misty_Croslin__who_was_watching_Haleigh__tells_about_herself
Of course it is very interesting but she stated that her state of birth was Michigan.
It goes on to tell a bit about her life up until she came to be at the home with Haleigh. I hope this can help too.
snipped from Soulscape:
Misty Croslin was born 12/9/91 in Michigan. I have used Lansing as that is a central city in Michigan. I think it will be close enough for our purposes. We could also experiment with a chart relocated to Satsuma for her.
Great minds think alike SS! I was thinking either Lansing or maybe Flint. Either way it should be close enough.
Maybe Angel and some of our other "up North" friends can think about her accent - but honestly, I thought she had a hint of southern....
My comments in red:
I'm reserving judgement on this one, although the Charts seem to repeat the *friend* angle...
No, I do not think she waited with secret knowledge.
Yes. While Misty may have confused herself regarding the time she put Haleigh to bed, I believe she did in fact put the child to bed and I believe she did not realize Haleigh was gone until she woke up around 3:00 am on 2/10/09.
While it is possible all of the Astrologers including myself have misread the charts, it is unlikely. I have another chart I will share with you tomorrow, as sickening as the ones we have looked at today, that supports what I am saying. I am too tired to stay up and post it now.
Thanks,
Soulscape
From the voice of accents in Michigan & not to offend anyone here, but Misty has an accent/word choices that is found a lot around the city of Tayor, MI. We call them "Tayortuckins"! Well known if you are from Michigan that they all have the country accent when they have or lived in Taylor. JMO
Salem, Kat, Nanny 1 and Jersey Girl, I cannot express my gratitude enough for you guys rushing over here to give our Super Astro's Misty's dob.
I feel so proud to be part of so much love and concern for yet another innocent child in the middle of a crisis.
Sorry if I'm being too mushy, I am just so overwhelmed with sadness after reading Tuba's chart for 2/13/09 9:30 am.
To think that Kaleigh is still going through this horror while everyone was looking for her just breaks my heart.
Please pray with me that LE finds the answers they need to find her before she's gone from this world>