GA - Apalachee High School shooting, 4 dead, 9 injured, Winder, Barrow County - 04 September 2024 *father and son arrested*

[DS2021]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/05/suspected-shooter-georgia-school-shooting-apalachee-high/

The 14-year-old arrested after a mass killing at Georgia’s Apalachee High School had been “begging for months” for mental health help before he allegedly carried out a deadly attack Wednesday, according to an aunt of the shooting suspect.

He “was begging for help from everybody around him,” Annie Brown, the aunt, told The Washington Post. “The adults around him failed him.”

Is it bad that i feel some level of sympathy for him?

 

[glamourkitty1922]

Is it bad that i feel some level of sympathy for him?

No it's not bad. At the end of the day he is just a kid. Adults failed him.

 

[LadyL]

"Colt gray" is a shade of gray.sometimes used in gun marleting, on top of "Colt" being a young intact horse.

and? every name means something to someone somewhere
I just don't see it as an unusual or strange name at all

 

[DS2021]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/09/05/georgia-shooting-suspect-youngest-mass-school-shooter/

Accused Georgia 14-year-old would be youngest mass school shooter since 1998

Paywalled, but the title conveys the message by itself

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“I’m going to be mad as hell if he did” make threats about a school shooting, said the father, Colin Gray, according to a transcript of the May 2023 interview obtained by The New York Times. “Then all the guns will go away,” he added.

Records from an eviction the previous year show that Mr. Gray owned several weapons, including an AR-15, the type of firearm that officials say was used in the shooting on Wednesday morning at Apalachee High School in Winder, Ga.

Suspect Claimed Online Threats Had Come From Hacked Account

The father of the Georgia school shooting suspect told investigators he would be “mad as hell” if his son had made the threats, according to a transcript. “Then all the guns will go away.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[DoctorRose]

Thank you for this insight. Very revealing.

I have an acquaintance whose son was a troubled kid and I saw her family go through hell trying to get services for him. They were an educated, employed, rather well-off family...and were devastated emotionally and financially in efforts to get the kid help. There is NOT ENOUGH HELP.

Not saying that is the case here as the family didn't even remove guns after the FBI came knocking. I don't know if they sought help or not, but they sure didn't take responsibility of safety and I expect charges to be made. The parents put the community at risk and they knew it and apparently didn't care.

jmo

For sure. I know a well off family who wound up doing one of those things where the program comes in the middle of the night and takes the kid. It was an insanely expensive place that was supposedly really nice. Idk what happened. But once you’re at level it’s like what the heck else do you do?

 

[DoctorRose]

Absolutely disgusting

Apparently she feels he’s been wronged in the past and she’s mad about it. Not a good post for her to make but I get the sentiment. Sometimes it seems like kids don’t have a chance to be well balanced given their environment.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“I would be curious to know what type of security measures are in place, meaning when the child was dropped off or got off the school bus. Meaning -- when he was making an entrance into the school yesterday did he go through an x-ray? Does he go through a magnetometer? Is there any sort of screening process?” questioned Kaplan.

Kaplan says if it’s determined the weapon that was used belonged to the parents, they too might be facing charges in connection with the shooting

Former FBI agent discusses limits on monitoring potential threats following GA shooting

We're learning more about Tuesday’s mass shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia.The 14-year-old suspect has now been charged with four counts of f

cbs12.com

”Metal detectors should be a thing,” Palesotti said.

”I think metal detectors should be even though it’s going to be a cost added to the school. It’s going to be very useful for detecting what’s in their bags,” parent Romeo Roman said.

Another parent told us the increased security should start with the teachers checking kids’ backpacks every day.

3 local school districts increase security measures after school shooting in Georgia

St. Johns County parents are on high alert to ensure their kids are safe after Wednesday’s deadly school shooting at Apalachee High School in an Atlanta suburb. Many local parents want increased school security.

www.actionnewsjax.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In a police report obtained by Newsweek, Colin Gray told officials that his family was evicted from their prior address in Jefferson, Georgia. He and his wife were divorced, and she took the two younger kids while he and Colt moved together.

Ed Hooper, spokesperson for the Jackson County School System, confirmed to Newsweek that Colt Gray completed sixth grade at West Jackson Middle School and started seventh grade on July 29, 2022. He was unenrolled on August 19, 2022.

New Disturbing Details Revealed About Colt Gray's Troubled Life

Suspected Apapache High School shooter Colt Gray, 14, alleglly had a Discord username referring to Sandy Hook Elementary killer Adam Lanza.

www.newsweek.com

 

[MollyHarps]

I highly doubt the school had any knowledge of CG's history.
It seems that the FBI did their duty, turfed it to the locals and shut the door. The information was siloed/ compartmentalized. The juvenile laws and protections are so secret it might have been considered illegal to share the info with the school. What a quagmire. We have reported suspicions that end up to be valid, and yet nothing is done.

Makes me wonder how many others are "on the list". To be watched by 'someone else..not me' .

I used to work in the UK school system primarily with PRU children (kids who have been excluded from mainstream school). Quite a few of these were due to violence - severe threats, bringing knives into school etc

We had a legal duty to pass on any safeguarding or behavioural issues to the next school - I’m amazed that this isn’t the case in the US system.

From afar this case looks like it was preventable as he should’ve already been on peoples radar - he should’ve been being searched each day prior to entering the building and his parents should have had a legal duty to check his bag each morning prior to school.

 

[sds71]

The father of Apalachee High School mass shooting suspect Colt Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

CNN has made several attempts to reach Colin Gray by phone and in person at the family home. It is unclear if he has an attorney.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/winder-georgia-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html

 

[MassGuy]

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The father of Apalachee High School mass shooting suspect Colt Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

CNN has made several attempts to reach Colin Gray by phone and in person at the family home. It is unclear if he has an attorney.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/winder-georgia-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html

Can't say I'm all that surprised, considering what we know about that family. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if that thing was never locked up, and this kid kept it in his room.

 

[DS2021]

The father of Apalachee High School mass shooting suspect Colt Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

After your child makes a mass murder threat, you buy him a gun?

It is unclear if he has an attorney.

He should probably get one

 

[vlbay]

unbelievable

 

[Inthedetails]

The father of Apalachee High School mass shooting suspect Colt Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

CNN has made several attempts to reach Colin Gray by phone and in person at the family home. It is unclear if he has an attorney.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/winder-georgia-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html

Yet another parent giving a gun to a troubled kid.

I'm honestly surprised the father hasn't been charged yet.

jmo

 

[fred&edna]

Heightened security at multiple school districts after social media threat

There will be heightened security at several Greater Cincinnati schools after a social media threat was made online. One district canceled classes altogether.

www.wcpo.com

Several Cincinnati-area schools named in online threats, Mount Healthy schools closed

Mount Healthy City Schools was closed Thursday and at least four other districts heightened security in response to a social media threat.

www.cincinnati.com

Alabama schools cancel class, increase security after Georgia school shooting

One district sent all students and teachers home after receiving a threat.

www.al.com

Authorities: 12-year-old South Carolina boy charged after claiming he could 'shoot up the school'

It happened the same day as the deadly high school shooting in Winder, Ga.

www.wjcl.com

11-year-old charged with making false bomb threat at Deerfield Beach school appears in court - WSVN 7News | Miami News, Weather, Sports | Fort Lauderdale

DEERFIELD BEACH, FLA. (WSVN) - An 11-year-old who, deputies said, made a false bomb threat at a school in Deerfield Beach appeared in before a<a class="excerpt-read-more"...

wsvn.com

Law enforcement, Enterprise City Schools holds press conference after lockdown

Enterprise High School and Enterprise Career & Technology Center are both on lockdown until further notice.

www.wtvy.com

Police: 15-year-old student arrested after threatening to shoot people at Brennan H.S. in West Babylon

According to police, a 911 caller reported the student made that threat during an online chat involving other students from the school.

longisland.news12.com

https://www.kark.com/news/local-news/homer-adkins-elementary-school-placed-on-lockdown-after-police-respond-to-nearby-home/

South Florida School Evacuated Following Bomb Threat On Wednesday | NewsRadio WFLA | Florida News

A bomb threat forced the evacuation of students and staff from Summerset Key Academy Middle/High School on Wednesday morning.

wflanews.iheart.com

Pleasant Valley schools go remote as police investigate threat (UPDATE)

The Pleasant Valley School District in Monroe County announced a remote instruction day Thursday, as Pennsylvania State Police said they were investigating a threat at the high school.

www.lehighvalleylive.com

Sachem North, Brennan High School, Salk Middle School see security incidents as school resumes on Long Island

Two Sachem North High students were arrested after one allegedly displayed a knife at a bus stop; a Brennan High student was accused of making a threat; and a Salk Middle School student allegedly brought a bullet into the building

www.newsday.com

In Kentucky, a student had a "kill list" but still allowed back in Conner High. Of note, his records are (of course) sealed so I'm unsure of what treatment he might have received before being allowed in the same school.

The worried parents spoke out last week after they learned that the Boone County Board of Education had allowed the 14-year-old to return to school despite having been charged with second-degree terroristic threats.

Kentucky parents concerned after teen who compiled 'kill list' allowed to return to school

"Whatever help he has gotten, he is still a threat," says worried mom.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[seasideForest]

The father of Apalachee High School mass shooting suspect Colt Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023,

BBM
RSBM for focus

HOLIDAY PRESENT?? Seems the father needs help in appropriate parenting too. Give a 14 yo with mental health problems a gun?!? Enabling homicide or suicide, imho.

MOO JMO

 

[IceIce9]

"Colt gray" is a shade of gray.sometimes used in gun marleting, on top of "Colt" being a young intact horse.

The name “Colt” is very popular among young people, at least in the area where I live.

 

[DS2021]

The father of Apalachee High School mass shooting suspect Colt Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.

CNN has made several attempts to reach Colin Gray by phone and in person at the family home. It is unclear if he has an attorney.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/05/us/winder-georgia-shooting-apalachee-high-school/index.html

Is it possible that the father believed Colts story about his discord getting hacked?

Im sure there were other problem behaviors at home that should've told dad this was a bad idea

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Yet another parent giving a gun to a troubled kid.

I'm honestly surprised the father hasn't been charged yet.

jmo

Wonder if charging the accused juvenile shooter as an adult has any potential impact on whether the father might also be charged?

And I am not advocating or suggesting that the accused juvenile shooter should not be charged as an adult. Or that the father should not also be charged if allowed or applicable. Just a question as denoted above. IANAL. MOO