MassGuy
The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed
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We had a legal duty to pass on any safeguarding or behavioural issues to the next school - I’m amazed that this isn’t the case in the US system.
Wow, they threw the book at him with shocking speed.
I don't think so. If those who mattered to him had this sympathy, perhaps he wouldn't have taken this path. I felt the same way listening to Ethan Crumbley's statement in court. He seemed like such a bright young man who wasted his life because no one seemed to care.Is it bad that i feel some level of sympathy for him?
4 involuntary manslaughter and 2 second degree. I wonder why?Wow, they threw the book at him with shocking speed.
Wow. I just saw that the murder weapon was a Christmas gift and thought this was going to trend very closely to the Crumbley case. I was not expecting this swift of an arrest.
4 involuntary manslaughter and 2 second degree. I wonder why?
Good.Per CNN:
Colin Gray, age 54, has been charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children.
Wow. They're not messing around. I'm here for it!
Per CNN:
Colin Gray, age 54, has been charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children.
Wow. They're not messing around. I'm here for it!
(a) A person commits the offense of involuntary manslaughter in the commission of an unlawful act when he causes the death of another human being without any intention to do so by the commission of an unlawful act other than a felony. A person who commits the offense of involuntary manslaughter in the commission of an unlawful act, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment for not less than one year nor more than ten years.
What about the 2 second degree murders?Those aren't too serious. When Feds have to push local LE to act on these domestic terrorists, they often try to go easy. Have seen it happen.
Georgia code says 1 yr prison minimum, 10 yrs maximum . They'll probably bargain it down so that the father spends a year in jail, total. Afterwards, he'll probably get his guns back.
2023 CODE OF GEORGIA :: Title 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES (§§ 16-1-1 — 16-17-10) :: Chapter 5 - CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON (§§ 16-5-1 — 16-5-110) :: Article 1 - HOMICIDE (§§ 16-5-1 — 16-5-5) :: Section 16-5-3 - Involuntary manslaughter
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The issue is that state law is state law. Michigan’s law seemed to support charging in a pretty straightforward way.With the precedent of Michigan, I would think that a quick arrest will stem the outrage of the community/nation/world relating to family postings and comments. This man spoke on the record to LE and clearly was unable to ensure that his weapons were secured and his son cared for. IMHO, he should also be charged for child neglect for not getting his son help.
If he spends a year in jail, he can’t lawfully own guns ever again… he’s a felon.Those aren't too serious. When Feds have to push local LE to act on these domestic terrorists, they often try to go easy. Have seen it happen.
Georgia code says 1 yr prison minimum, 10 yrs maximum . They'll probably bargain it down so that the father spends a year in jail, total. Afterwards, he'll probably get his guns back.
2023 CODE OF GEORGIA :: Title 16 - CRIMES AND OFFENSES (§§ 16-1-1 — 16-17-10) :: Chapter 5 - CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON (§§ 16-5-1 — 16-5-110) :: Article 1 - HOMICIDE (§§ 16-5-1 — 16-5-5) :: Section 16-5-3 - Involuntary manslaughter
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I suspect if Colt's father (Colin) bought the semi-assault rifle legally, it must have been registered under Colin's name. I am not familiar with Georgia gun laws but there was recently a similar case in Illinois.Unfortunately, I’m not sure Georgia’s manslaughter laws allow for charging something like this. They would have to get pretty creative to wrap the father in.
I suspect if Colt's father (Colin) bought the semi-assault rifle legally, it must have been registered under Colin's name. I am not familiar with Georgia gun laws but there was recently a similar case in Illinois.
Robert Crimo III used an assault rifle to massacre seven people at the Highland Park Illinois Fourth of July Parade in 2022. Though he was 21 yo at the time, his father Robert Crimo Jr. had signed his Illinois Gun Registration card.
Robert Crimo Jr. was sentenced to 60 days in jail after pleading guilty on November 6 to misdemeanor counts of reckless conduct for helping his son acquire a firearm owner's id card, despite red flags. and served 60 days in jail.
Robert Crimo Jr., father of Highland Park parade shooting suspect, released from jail
The father of the alleged Highland Park parade shooting suspect was released from jail Wednesday.abc7chicago.com
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I hope that charges are coming for Mr. Gray. IMO.The father of Apalachee High School mass shooting suspect Colt Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.
CNN has made several attempts to reach Colin Gray by phone and in person at the family home. It is unclear if he has an attorney.
We don’t have gun registration in Georgia. I don’t think there was anything inherently illegal regarding the father gifting the rifle to the son (in a vacuum). Now, with the previous interviews by LE and the father being aware that the son possibly posed a threat, and gifting the child a firearm anyway that was then used in a school shooting… I could see the argument being made that was criminally negligent, which leads to the cruelty to children charges, which then leads to the second degree murder and involuntary manslaughter charges.I suspect if Colt's father (Colin) bought the semi-assault rifle legally, it must have been registered under Colin's name. I am not familiar with Georgia gun laws but there was recently a similar case in Illinois.
Robert Crimo III used an assault rifle to massacre seven people at the Highland Park Illinois Fourth of July Parade in 2022. Though he was 21 yo at the time, his father Robert Crimo Jr. had signed his Illinois Gun Registration card.
Robert Crimo Jr. was sentenced to 60 days in jail after pleading guilty on November 6 to misdemeanor counts of reckless conduct for helping his son acquire a firearm owner's id card, despite red flags. and served 60 days in jail.
Robert Crimo Jr., father of Highland Park parade shooting suspect, released from jail
The father of the alleged Highland Park parade shooting suspect was released from jail Wednesday.abc7chicago.com
JMO