I dont even know where to start
my brain is fried..so much out there...so many inconsistencies from everyone! Please excuse my rambling!
So many unanswered questions. LE has not really given any facts about the case. Every time "items of interest are found", they recant their statements. Now they report that the case is a homicide case and several may be POI. But give no reason as to why it went from a missing person case to a homicide case.
The person that should of call 911 (Ron) didn't and made a total fool out of himself during the days that followed in his interviews and pleas.
Not once did Ronald go to TN to try and take matters into his own hands..as he kept saying he would kill the person who stole his daughter..he was pointing the finger at Joe behind the scene early on but did nothing.
He avoided LE for months when they were trying to question him further.
He looked like he had just gotten in a fight the day Haleigh was reported missing.
Key players I would say are Ron, Misty, Timmy, Chelsea, and Tommy.
Reason being, Ron's odd behavior since Haleigh went missing, keeps defending Misty even though LE says she is lying, Timmy being Misty's favorite brother would be the one that Misty would call on for help. Chelsea being close to Misty...considers her like a sister....lied about several things as well...would be someone Misty would confide in and call on for help.
It was also said that Misty was complaining of bad s*t she got and went another direction after picking up Haleigh from the bus stop. Did she go back to the drug house?
Ron tells Cobra that he dropped Haleigh off at the bus stop and picked her up...that is not what he told NG. He told NG that he took Haleigh to school and picked her up from the bus stop.
Where was Ron rushing to that after noon? I thought I also read somewhere that Ron was working for his aunt Katrina that day?
My theory of the day would be that a fight broke out Feb 9th and Haleigh got in the line of fire. Did Misty accuse someone of rapping her that weekend and giving her bad ch*t and Ron went hunting down one of the Mexicans? Maybe that is where Misty Rushed to after picking up Haleigh and later returned to the MH, going back later after the A/C guy left to finish off there business. Seems to me that Ron and Misty have been selling drugs even before the drug bust. I would think LE would of had good reason for the undercover sting...maybe it did play a part in what happen to Haleigh.
We also have to think about Chelsea and her role. She has a record for beating up Amber (?)..so she to is physically violent. Could it be that these 4-5 were at a drug party/sale and Ron had a fight with someone? I would say there is also a 6th person that we have not even considered to look at that may shed some light on what happen that night.
We have the alleged Rope that LE found at the river.
The alleged rope that was in the van.
The all edged rope that was found in Tommy and Lindseys home/van that LE found recently.
The mis-reporting or over looking that
ROPE WAS ON RONS MOBILE HOME TOO!..THE SCREEN DOOR IN THE FRONT. YOU CAN SEE IT IN EARLIER VIDEOS AND PICTURES OF THE THE MH ON GREEN ST.
Ronald Cummings has been the only one that I recall telling this tale about Joe fishing at the river and the tale of feeding the alligator, not Cousin Joe.
Ron originally said, he and Joe used to visit the very spot on the St. Johns river to fish, he never told Art it was Tommy!!!!(Keep in mind Joe had been there for 2 weeks, Ronald told Cobra he met Joe for THE FIRST TIME on the third day of his visit, which would be sometime around 1/30/09. It is also said that the fight over the gun was the weekend prior to Haleigh going missing, then it was changed that the fight occurred the night she went missing. Yet, Ron denies a fight ever occurred just like he denied using drugs, selling drugs, and abusing his children and women in his life.
Ron also told Art Harris about fishing with Joe:
Quote:
~snip~
We were together months ago, not far from the pond, at another waters edge in Satsuma
where marble sized eyes were visible popping out of the St. Johns River, and a dock not far from Ronalds trailer, where Haleighs father lead us to take a look, months ago, noting the lazy cruising ground of the scaly predators, and their indiscrimanting appetite.
Ronald told me that he and Joe Overstreet, Mistys Tennessee cousin, used to visit the very spot on the St. Johns river to fish, shoot the breeze, maybe drink a tall, cool one, and talk about life
and the appetite of Alligators. In fact, he said, in an exclusive chat with The Bald Truth months ago, that Joe talked about one of his favorite pastimeswatching alligators go to town on small animals or big ones that fell or got tossed in for their dining pleasure
TAKE NOTE:
Ron started out telling Cobra that
He was the one who told Tommy about the river (caught himself saying it)being a good place to dump a body, but
quickly changed his wording and said
Tommy told me. But he started out with I told Tommy!
Ron saying Joe was the one who said the river would be a great place to dump a body.
Ron saying that Tommy told him that he (Tommy), Joe, and Tommys son Austin were at the river and that Joe told Tommy that the river would be a great place to get rid of a body. Yet, Joe is from TN he has no idea the gators are not active in Feb.
Go back and listen to the audio, Ron telling Cobra that Tommy told him about when they were fishing. It was allegedly Tommy, his son Austin, and Joe.The first thing that struck me odd was that Ron started out telling Cobra that He was the one who told, then changed it to He (Tommy), told him that he went fishing.
What if Tommy did go to the River with his son and that is why he lied about the time he was at the MH? Lord, I pray that Austin didnt witness anything. Or, maybe it was Ron himself that dumped Haleighs body on his way to/from work?
The many stories about the van that is owned by Lindsey:
Lindsy attended night classes during the time Haleigh went missing. I wonder how she got to school that night? Did she have the van and later sent Tommy to Timmy & Chelsea's house with it? Does she own another car? Anyone know?
Big question...at what time did the van end up in Crescent City at Timmy & Chelsea's house?
It is said that the van that was used to take Haleigh and her cousins to the school bus.
Now there is talk that it was used as( hearse) to transport a dead Haleigh to the river, where rope was tied around her with cinder blocks and then she was thrown in the river.(If that was the case LE would of found decomposition in the van and would of kept in in the crime lab. LE returned the van to Chelsea/Lindsey after they tested the van. Which leads me to believe if Haleigh was in the van she was still alive and was never in the van after she died. IMO)
Tommys lawyer Warner said, one reason for Tommy taking a poly was because he need to clear up the time-line Tommy went to the trailer that night.
Nancy Grace Show transcript March 26, 2010
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html
Quote:
WERTER: Nancy, you have to understand when that statement was given, he had been arrested for that grand theft charge and he was in for a week waiting bond, and he was interviewed every day until he finally gave that statement. That`s why we want a polygraph to clear the air on the time-line.
Quote:
TERRY SHOEMAKER, ATTORNEY FOR HALEIGH`S FATHER, RONALD CUMMINGS: Well, he`s kind of shocked that Misty`s brother went over there that evening. He said all along that he did call the house of Hank Jr. and asked him whether or not Misty was there. But he doesn`t he`s never said that he asked them to go look for her. He just asked if she was over there. And that was at about 9:00. So I think Hank Jr.`s time-line is a little off.
Tommy took the polygraph April 8, 2010. JW has never stated that Tommy passed. In fact he said that if he failed he would no longer represent Tommy.
And now it is said that he will only represent Tommy for the drug charges but not the Haleigh investigation!
September 2009 : Tommy Croslin, Jr., told Putnam County Sheriffs investigators he dropped by Ronald Cummings trailer sometime after 10 p.m.[/B] Feb 9. Tommy stated during questioning that Ronald, had called him from his work and asked him to check on Misty. (It is alleged that phone records show that Ron did call Tommy, Misty and I assume others. 90+calls that night!)
TOMMY saying he went by the MH around 10PM and Misty was not home, now recanting that and saying he did not go to the MH at 10PM. The question is, did he not go at the time stated? Maybe he went at another time. We know he was at Rons MH with the kids around 5pm that day. We also hear that he was there around 6PM smoking pot with Misty.
Lindsey was in school at that time and did not get home until around 10:15PM that night and she claims he was home then and also the rest of the night
hmmm
How did she get home?
We also have Ron and the Croslins since day one pointing the finger at Joe..If you listen closely to the audios that Simon was so kind to share it was said that Timmy woke up at 1AM and saw Joe in his boxers!
Chelsea claims she was up LATE doing insurance paper work (that does not take all night), and had just went to bed when she received the call that Haleigh was missing. she claims that Timmy was in bed sleeping on pain pills due to an accident. Then she claims she awoke to find keys moved from where shed put them on the kitchen table and the van was parked in a different spot in her driveway. Chelsea said Joe normally slept in boxer shorts, but jumped out of bed fully clothed when she got a call Haleigh was missing. So, we can assume Joe STAYED AT TIMMYS HOUSE THAT! (YET, Ron mentioned that Timmy saw Joe in his boxers at 1AM on the audio on Simons site!) So how did Timmy see Joe at 1AM if he was sleeping? How did Chelsea not see Joe at 1:00AM if she was still up doing insurance paperwork? You would think she would of known what Timmy and Joe were really doing that night, she was awake! How would she no know who moved the van? She was AWAKE!
Snip http://www..net/124378
by Simon Barrett in crime
Quote
Ron: you know what I told him? he told
let me tell you what i know what he told me
Ron: they were down there fishin` junior hank, actually i call him Tommy
Cobra: Tommy OK
Ron: OK, cuz that`s the same Jr. hank Jr. tommy
and Joe were fishin` with Austin, tommy`s son
at that dock
it got dark
that dock got swamped with alligators
he told me, he said holy *advertiser censored*** s*** i had to get my son out of there i thought lake placid was fixin` to go on!
cobra: yep Ron: you know what?
cobra: yep?
Ron: Joe said the corridor would be the perfect *advertiser censored***ing place to kill somebody
cobra: bam
Ron: dump them right in the water
let the alligators take care of the rest.
cobra: bam!
Ron: do i think that`s where my daughter`s at? (answers own question) probably.
and cadaver dogs hitting on the dumpster...Tommy was a little too late, if he got to the mh around 2am.
