Germany - American woman dead after man ‘throws two tourists off bridge’ at German castle - 14 June 2023

[Dotta]

"American Troy Bohling admits to rape and murder of fellow US tourist, 21, ​

and pushing her friend, 22, ​

off a cliff near Germany's 'Cinderella' castle ​

as it emerges he​

filmed the tragedy".

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Tourist admits raping and murdering woman he threw 165ft at 'Cinderella' castle

Luring two tourists to a famous ''Cinderella'' castle viewing spot, US citizen Troy Bohling launched his attack before his arrest was filmed by tourists in Bavaria, Germany

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"A verdict in the case is expected to be announced by mid-March at the earliest."

US tourist confesses to rape, murder of recent college grad near famous German castle

The suspect, previously identified as 31-year-old Troy Bohling from Michigan, met two female tourists who were also from America on June 14 at a hiking trail near the Mariensbruecke Bridge, which o…

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[ChatteringBirds]

I'm waiting for more information to hopefully be published on CNN, etc.

Did he plead guilty so that details wouldn't come out during a trial? JMO.

 

[seasideForest]

Man admits to rape, murder of US tourist in Germany

The American man lured two US women off a trail near Germany's famous Neuschwanstein Castle last year.

www.bbc.com

@ChatteringBirds according to above article he has admitted to it but Idk if in the eyes of the law that is exactly the same as pleading guilty. Sorry, legal terminology especially across different countries is not my forte.

 

[seasideForest]

According to the above link from BBC, the lawyers claim this man acted spontaneously rather than with intent. I find that hard to believe considering that he lured both women off onto a different, rather secluded trail AND that after the second woman came to the aid of the first, he didn't come to his senses and lay off both. No, he attacked the first one again, even more viciously than before.
MOO

 

[ChatteringBirds]

@seasideForest You're right. I should have worded that differently, because I don't think you make a plea during a German trial, but I'm not sure.

Per your link

Man admits to rape, murder of US tourist in Germany

The American man lured two US women off a trail near Germany's famous Neuschwanstein Castle last year.

www.bbc.com

"Lawyers denied the suspect acted with intent, telling the court that he acted spontaneously."

How sickening. Trying to claim that rape and murder of two people is spontaneous. I hope he does spend the rest of his life in prison in Germany. The children in the material found on his phone are victims of him too. All IMO.

 

[seasideForest]

Trying to claim that rape and murder of two people is spontaneous. I hope he does spend the rest of his life in prison in Germany. All IMO.

RSBM and underlined by me.

What I underlined is not likely to happen in Germany imho. They don't go in for prison sentences of 75 years or 150 years or whatever that seems to happen in the US sometimes. Just IMHO based on what I read.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

@seasideForest I hope they will do better with this case, then, to protect the surviving victim and society in general. To rape and throw someone down a cliff like that, I don't believe he can change.

 

[seasideForest]

@ChatteringBirds I agree, I don't think he's likely to change or to respond to therapy or anything like that though I'm no expert so JMO but in some countries 'life' doesn't seem to mean to the end of somebody's actual life-span. That absolutely reprehensible Fritzl in Austria is going to be moved to an old people's home soonish afai recall, for example.

I'm no expert on lengths of prison terms and comparisons thereof but it seems there's more likelihood of getting a really long sentence in the US, longer than a human lifespan whereas in western European countries and Canada a murderer might get 20-25 years and then parole. If they're in their 20's, 30's or even 40's, they could go out and kill again. There are mechanisms to keep the really dangerous ones in prison e.g. in the UK 'at the King's pleasure' or something like that.

Maybe TPB could be extradited?

All MOO.

 

[RichardKimble]

@ChatteringBirds I agree, I don't think he's likely to change or to respond to therapy or anything like that though I'm no expert so JMO but in some countries 'life' doesn't seem to mean to the end of somebody's actual life-span. That absolutely reprehensible Fritzl in Austria is going to be moved to an old people's home soonish afai recall, for example.

I'm no expert on lengths of prison terms and comparisons thereof but it seems there's more likelihood of getting a really long sentence in the US, longer than a human lifespan whereas in western European countries and Canada a murderer might get 20-25 years and then parole. If they're in their 20's, 30's or even 40's, they could go out and kill again. There are mechanisms to keep the really dangerous ones in prison e.g. in the UK 'at the King's pleasure' or something like that.

Maybe TPB could be extradited?

All MOO.

'At the King's pleasure' is just general speak for someone in prison, whole life tariff are given to some prisoners depending on the severity of the crime meaning they will die in prison, others are jailed for life but with a minimum time determined by the judge at sentencing to be served before they could be considered for parole.

 

[Sjöberg]

"He then allegedly threw the younger woman to the ground. According to the investigation, the 22-year-old intervened in this situation, whereupon the man is said to have pushed the companion about 50 meters down. The prosecution assumes that the man then strangled and raped the 21-year-old. He is then said to have thrown her down the slope too."

Thank you, this recap of events makes more sense!

Initially, it was reported that he attacked one, the other one rushed to her protection and was strangled and pushed down. And I always thought that was odd, that he had the time and opportunity to strangle the girl that rushed to fight him off (was the first one already passed out or similar?) and that he did not strangle the one he attacked initially. This makes way more sense, as the pairing of attempted SA and strangulation is very common and quickly pushing off the "extra witness" also makes sense.

I hope she was able to call from help after the fall (he could no longer stop her either) or that someone interrupted the crime (no info on that so far - but considering how touristy it is, it must also be crowded).

 

[Sarahlou]

A US man has been sentenced to life in prison for the rape and murder of a fellow American tourist and the attempted murder of her friend near one of Germany's top visitor attractions.

In Monday's sentencing in district court in the town of Kempten, Bavaria, Judge Christoph Schwiebacher noted the "particular severity of guilt" in the case.
He indicated the killer would probably not be eligible for parole after 15 years, which is typical for people who receive life sentences in Germany, according to Agence France-Presse news agency.

US man sentenced for murder of tourist by Germany's Neuschwanstein Castle

Troy Philipp B admitted to raping and killing an American tourist near Neuschwanstein Castle in 2023.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Thanks for that update, @Sarahlou.

 

[vls12345]

A US man is sentenced to life in prison for murder and rape in attack on 2 American women in Germany

An American man has been convicted of murder and other charges for attacking two American women near Germany’s famed Neuschwanstein castle last summer.

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