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on this point, the link i believe you are talking about says this...
"The investigators from Saxony-Anhalt now again intensified the possible involvement of the 43-year-old in the case. However, there was no evidence that this [person, i.e. CB] was near the crime scene"
(google english translate. my bold)
Fall Inga: Keine Hinweise auf Beteiligung von Christian B.
currently having no evidence of a person's presence, is different to them not being there. as i previously tried to explain.

maybe the google translate is incorrect. does he specifically exclude CB in his German quote?

you may have other reports that say 'the same prosecutor specifically excludes the involvement of Christian B in the disappearance of Inga'. i don't see these, but would be happy to read them.

what would specifically exclude CB...
if CB had a new alibi, or there was new evidence that CB was elsewhere, or if there was evidence that pointed to another person. i don't see any of that.

You expect the investigators to tell you everything? On the basis of what would they do that? Publish everything in the press about an ongoing investigation? IMHO this is not common police tactics anywhere and it certainly isn't so in Germany.
In Germany, a POI has a right to privacy, so even if they know where Christian B was on the day that Inga disappeared, they will only tell that he wasn't near the Wilhelmshof that day and not where in fact he was.

The alleged link between Christian B and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was found during the investigation into the disappearance of Inga Gehricke. The investigations into the disappearance of Inga take place in silence and since German LE is following conversations of paedophiles in their search for Inga, it must be obvious that they consider abduction by a paedophile a serious option.

I hope that all this is equal attention enough for your liking. If not, I regret to inform that you cannot have it all.
 
There are later reports in which the same prosecutor specifically excludes the involvement of Christian B in the disappearance of Inga. These reports have been mentioned here on this thread.

I sincerely hope that I am reading you wrong and that you do in fact NOT wish the same publicity on Inga that has befallen the overexposed disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Every child that has been missing needs attention,
Because of MM that,there are more details known,due to the fact that the McCanns had/have important connections,good jobs,put her on the headlines,stayed a force During their appeal to find their daughter,vanished while on holiday,etc etc.,doesn’t matter,I think it is important to hit the spotlight,when it comes down to missing children,it is heartbreaking.ofcourse it got more attention and with that it comes to new leads,tips..

This is WS and discussions about the missing,murdering,abused children does not go away.It should not go away!

About CB and his phone wasn’t logged in,or whatever that means,that reason is not enough to rule him out-or connections...he was on the dark web a lot and I can only imagine what is shared there...it is worrying and we can’t look away these days,when it is known that LE has their hands full with thousands of footage and limited staff,.I think that Inga’s disappearance was an opportunity crime with knowledge
And how much they look at eachother,same age,same looks..

Also with MM,I think that the EU should start to work together,put up a database for sex offenders,because if they get busted,it is so easy to get away with it,they just pack up and leave,cross borders and do it again! Of course they still have their connections,worldwide founded.I would think they are better connected then EU /LE.

So Zazara,I don’t agree with your point of view..just saying.
 
Anyway..here a little more about the time of her disappearance :
“A hunter reported hearing a child scream but that line of enquiry led nowhere. Dogs were used and they could not find Inga's scent but were alerted to a lane along the motorway to Berliner Ringand from there to Halle and then Dresden. But despite a large scale search operation, nothing at all was found to suggest what could have happened to Inga. ”
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‘Police received over 2000 tips from the public. In 2016, in Neuwegersleben in Germany, police raided a farmhouse but did not find anything connected to Inga.’
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On the website,you can find the shoes she was wearing when she went missing.
Inga Gehricke
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Here it says: ‘ In the area around the forest there is a prison for sex offenders and in the diakonia are mentally ill and people with addictions, but no connection can be made to the disappearance of Inga‘
SchmaZ-Junior Blog | SchmaZ digital
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And here German broadcast:
Aktenzeichen XY Spezial Wo ist mein Kind? Komplett 29.06.16

 

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To this day, there is no trace of her. Father Jens-Uwe in the interview: "I still have this mistrust in the Wilhelmshof and its inhabitants to this day. This feeling that something is off there has
It raises also red flags for me, in the back of my mind, I still think about Anne Faber, who was found raped and murdered, due to the lack of supervision of the clinic, the perp was under therapy of his staying there.

I looked the website up Wilhemshof and little could be found, the first one gave me an error:
('Unsere Homepage ist momentan nicht verfügbar.'
Bitte kontaktieren Sie uns direkt.')
when I tried to get some answers to the questions that I asked myself.
https://www.dw-wilhelmshof.org/
So I asked a fellow WS member, who has made great contributions /post in the MM thread and he gave me a better website to check out WH clinic, thought it would be good to post this as well here. Diakoniewerk Wilhelmshof e. V. - ACL Deutschland
Of course, due to the privacy rules, not all my questions are answered regarding to the questions that I have.
 
Vater der vermissten Inga: "Meine Forderung ist, dass wieder ermittelt wird"

inga.jpg


Five years ago, Jens-Uwe Gehricke's daughter Inga disappeared without a trace during a family outing. To this day, it has not been possible to clarify what happened to the 5-year-old on May 2, 2015 at Wilhelmshof, a diaconal institution in Saxony-Anhalt. The girl was about to walk from the barbecue area at the edge of the grounds to one of the houses. This would have been only about 100 meters on foot. But she never arrived.

Jens-Uwe Gehricke has been closely following the new developments in the case of Madeleine McCann, who was abducted in Portugal in 2007. In an exclusive interview with the magazine Stern, he is now demanding that the case of his missing daughter be reopened. "It is important to me to know where she is. It's burning on my mind", says the 51-year-old. And he continues: "Regardless of the question whether the 'Maddie' case has anything to do with Inga, I now have hope that her case is back in the minds of investigators and the prosecution." Gehricke wants new investigators to look at the case.

Regarding the suspect in the McCann case recently presented by the BKA, who owned an empty box factory just over an hour's drive from Wilhelmshof at the time of Inga's disappearance, Gehricke told Stern: "Perhaps he really did not have any contact with Wilhelmshof. But just to rule that out completely, the case must be reopened." The fact that Christian B. was not logged in to the crime scene area with his cell phone at the time, according to the radio cell query, is not enough for him to justify the fact that he could not have been on site.

Jens-Uwe Gehricke still does not rule out an accident that was subsequently covered up, a kidnapping, a sexual offence or any other act of violence. But: "A second Natascha Kampusch story was always the one I believed in least." The social pedagogue had assumed the worst at an early stage - but he still can't mourn his child. "I want to mourn, I wish I could. But I cannot do it as long as there is no certainty," he says.

In its current issue, Stern also shows for the first time a so-called aging picture of Inga. It shows what Inga might have looked like at the age of seven. It was created by specialists from the Lower Saxony State Office of Criminal Investigation, the parents were involved in the various design phases at the time.


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The interview itself is subscription-only.

Natscha Kampusch from Austria was kidnapped when she was 10 years of age, and held in captivity for 8 years until she managed to escape.
 
Vater der vermissten Inga: "Meine Forderung ist, dass wieder ermittelt wird"

inga.jpg


Five years ago, Jens-Uwe Gehricke's daughter Inga disappeared without a trace during a family outing. To this day, it has not been possible to clarify what happened to the 5-year-old on May 2, 2015 at Wilhelmshof, a diaconal institution in Saxony-Anhalt. The girl was about to walk from the barbecue area at the edge of the grounds to one of the houses. This would have been only about 100 meters on foot. But she never arrived.

Jens-Uwe Gehricke has been closely following the new developments in the case of Madeleine McCann, who was abducted in Portugal in 2007. In an exclusive interview with the magazine Stern, he is now demanding that the case of his missing daughter be reopened. "It is important to me to know where she is. It's burning on my mind", says the 51-year-old. And he continues: "Regardless of the question whether the 'Maddie' case has anything to do with Inga, I now have hope that her case is back in the minds of investigators and the prosecution." Gehricke wants new investigators to look at the case.

Regarding the suspect in the McCann case recently presented by the BKA, who owned an empty box factory just over an hour's drive from Wilhelmshof at the time of Inga's disappearance, Gehricke told Stern: "Perhaps he really did not have any contact with Wilhelmshof. But just to rule that out completely, the case must be reopened." The fact that Christian B. was not logged in to the crime scene area with his cell phone at the time, according to the radio cell query, is not enough for him to justify the fact that he could not have been on site.

Jens-Uwe Gehricke still does not rule out an accident that was subsequently covered up, a kidnapping, a sexual offence or any other act of violence. But: "A second Natascha Kampusch story was always the one I believed in least." The social pedagogue had assumed the worst at an early stage - but he still can't mourn his child. "I want to mourn, I wish I could. But I cannot do it as long as there is no certainty," he says.

In its current issue, Stern also shows for the first time a so-called aging picture of Inga. It shows what Inga might have looked like at the age of seven. It was created by specialists from the Lower Saxony State Office of Criminal Investigation, the parents were involved in the various design phases at the time.


BBM


The interview itself is subscription-only.

Natscha Kampusch from Austria was kidnapped when she was 10 years of age, and held in captivity for 8 years until she managed to escape.
Personally I think Inga's disappearance has more comparisons to Madeleine McCann then Natascha Kampusch.
Sadly children of the age of MM and IG were half the age of Natascha when they went missing.
Sadly, I do think... if they survived the ordeal of being kidnapped, abused and been able to escape,their chances are slim of doing so. They were so young and memory of their lives before will be hard to remember.

It must be so hard for parents...just to think what kind of sick persons with disgusting thoughts are walking the street preying on children.

Personally I find it very very very fishy that a clinic like that Wilhelmshof wasn't turned upside down. It still raises red flags - till this day, just like CB, the suspect of Madeleine McCann.

I do hope that with the "overexposed" disappearence of MM and ongoing investigation will share some lights on other missing children, like little Inga.
 
Is there any detailed report on the circumstances of poor Inga's disappearance? Things like a timeline, how many people were there, adults and children, when was that barbecue planned, who could know, if there were such barbecues with any of those children before, who was the last person who saw Inga and so on. I can't find any source.
 
Still searching, but this is what I could find so far.

<modsnip> It was the children who last saw Inga (not easy witnesses to question). There used to be hunters in the area (a hunter heard a child scream that was considered meaningless by LE). As I understand there were lots of adults there, but no information on how many. Inga was there the day before riding a bicycle...

ETA: In XY Program there were 7 adults and 6 children (of which 4 should be Inga and her siblings).

Die schwierige Suche nach einer Spur
 
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Is there any detailed report on the circumstances of poor Inga's disappearance? Things like a timeline, how many people were there, adults and children, when was that barbecue planned, who could know, if there were such barbecues with any of those children before, who was the last person who saw Inga and so on. I can't find any source.

No.
 
It's very hard to imagine a scenario where 6 children are all close to each other and one disappears. It must be very silent and discreet.

This may seem insane, but the area used to be attended by hunters. These are regularly camouflaged and carry weapons.

So a hunter, real or opportunistic, might be hiding nearby and shot a soporific dart and left with her. That had to be planned as he couldn't have his car near Diakoniewerk as usual. Perhaps hunter left the car near the road around the area. Anyway that's at least 2.5Km away or well in excess of 30min.

This is a high risk scenario with a low probability of success (like whatever other possibility) , but if it's common for children to have campfires there maybe the hunter has been around a few times until an opportunity showed up. Or Inga was targeted the day before as she was there riding a bicycle and plans for next day might be known for some reason.

Just a though of mine however crazy that may seem.
 
It's very hard to imagine a scenario where 6 children are all close to each other and one disappears. It must be very silent and discreet.

This may seem insane, but the area used to be attended by hunters. These are regularly camouflaged and carry weapons.

So a hunter, real or opportunistic, might be hiding nearby and shot a soporific dart and left with her. That had to be planned as he couldn't have his car near Diakoniewerk as usual. Perhaps hunter left the car near the road around the area. Anyway that's at least 2.5Km away or well in excess of 30min.

This is a high risk scenario with a low probability of success (like whatever other possibility) , but if it's common for children to have campfires there maybe the hunter has been around a few times until an opportunity showed up. Or Inga was targeted the day before as she was there riding a bicycle and plans for next day might be known for some reason.

Just a though of mine however crazy that may seem.

Six children?
Sopoforic darts?
Inga riding her bike the day before at the Diakoniewerk?

IMHO you are confusing Inga's case with someone else's.

I recommend you use MSM sources and not the blog that you linked to earlier.
 
Thanks for your warm comment, ZaZara.

I quoted Volksstimme local newspaper <modsnip>

Yes, according to XY program.

Yes according to police information transcribed bellow from Volksstimme, May 25, 2015 (linked before). Anyway I have just asked a German friend to review translation and will let members know if it needs correction.

Yes. If you have anything on the contrary we're here to discuss.

"Offenbar gibt es aber auch im Wald Geruchsspuren von Inga. Diese sind mit dem Aufenthalt des Mädchens mit ihrer Familie im Laufe des Tages vor dem Verschwinden bei einer Radtour erklärbar, so von Hoff."

Apparently there are also traces of Inga odor in the forest. These can be explained by the girl's stay with her family during the day before she disappeared on a bike tour, says [Mike] von Hoff [policeman]."

ETA: My kind German friend has just confirmed translation of "the day before" is correct.

<modsnip>
 
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Thanks for your warm comment, ZaZara.

I quoted Volksstimme local newspaper

"Offenbar gibt es aber auch im Wald Geruchsspuren von Inga. Diese sind mit dem Aufenthalt des Mädchens mit ihrer Familie im Laufe des Tages vor dem Verschwinden bei einer Radtour erklärbar, so von Hoff."

Apparently there are also traces of Inga odor in the forest. These can be explained by the girl's stay with her family during the day before she disappeared on a bike tour, says [Mike] von Hoff [policeman]."

ETA: My kind German friend has just confirmed translation of "the day before" is correct.

<modsnip>

The translation is correct but the interpretation is wrong, I'm afraid.

The original translates: during the day, before her disappearence - and in German it is clear, that it was the same day. If "the day before the day on which she disappeared" were meant (you seem to interpret it this way), it would be 'im Laufe des vorherigen Tages" or "ein Tag vorher", something like that.

It is the day of the disappearance what's meant in the article, not the day before.

Also Inga's mother states that it was a one day only excursion.
 
Still searching, but this is what I could find so far.

<modsnip> It was the children who last saw Inga (not easy witnesses to question). There used to be hunters in the area (a hunter heard a child scream that was considered meaningless by LE). As I understand there were lots of adults there, but no information on how many. Inga was there the day before riding a bicycle...

ETA: In XY Program there were 7 adults and 6 children (of which 4 should be Inga and her siblings).

Die schwierige Suche nach einer Spur

Inga's mother speaks about 3 families: 6 adults and 9 children.

Von der Polizei Stendal tief enttäuscht
 
Thanks very much for making that clear. That's a subtlety and I interpreted it wrongly as "the day before" even with the help from a German friend.

Also thanks very much for Inga's mother interview. I thought XY program would be more accurate on reconstruction. It seemed too few children indeed for so many adults as 4 at least should be siblings (Inga included).
 
I have just finished her interview. Poor mother.

Leaving later and having dinner was decided on spot if I translate it correctly.

"Wir hatten uns deshalb auch entschlossen, noch zum Abendbrot zu bleiben."
 
I have just finished her interview. Poor mother.

Leaving later and having dinner was decided on spot if I translate it correctly.

"Wir hatten uns deshalb auch entschlossen, noch zum Abendbrot zu bleiben."

Genau, richtig :)
 
According to Welt: (Bisher ging die Polizei davon aus, dass Inga zusammen mit anderen Kindern in den Wald gelaufen ist, um Holz für ein Lagerfeuer zu sammeln. „Bild“ zitiert nun einen Ermittler, der von einer neuen Erkenntnis spricht: „Inga hat sich an dem Abend auf dem Spielplatz mit den anderen Kinder gestritten, lief dann weinend weg. Offenbar nicht in den Wald, sondern zu einem anderem Spielplatz in der Nähe, der genau in Richtung Straße führt. Dabei muss das Kind an die öffentliche Straße gekommen sein.“)

Translation:
“So far the police assumed that Inga ran into the forest with other children to collect wood for a campfire. “Bild” now quotes an investigator who speaks of a new finding: “Inga quarreled with the other children on the playground that evening, then ran away crying. Apparently not into the forest, but to another playground nearby that leads exactly in the direction of the road. The child must have come to the public street. "


ZDF: Chefermittler will kleine Inga nicht aufgeben - WELT

And from what I have read,it is not very clear at what time,the hunter heard a voice,but from my understanding,(s)he reported at 4.00 o clock in the morning to the police:

‘Unterdessen wurde bekannt, dass sich bereits in der Nacht des Verschwindens ein Jäger um etwa vier Uhr nachts an die Polizei gewandt hat, weil er im Wald eine Stimme gehört hatte, die "Papa, Papa" gerufen habe. "Wir sind der Sache nachgegangen", sagte von Hoff. Der Jäger sei in großer Entfernung zu den Lauten gewesen. "Das kann auch ein Tier gewesen sein."/

“Meanwhile, it became known that a hunter had already contacted the police at around four o'clock in the morning on the night of the disappearance because he had heard a voice in the forest that called "Papa, Papa". "We looked into the matter," said von Hoff. The hunter was said to have been a long way from the sounds. "That could also have been an animal."

Mit 3250 Plakaten auf der Suche nach Inga

I have just finished her interview. Poor mother.

Leaving later and having dinner was decided on spot if I translate it correctly.

"Wir hatten uns deshalb auch entschlossen, noch zum Abendbrot zu bleiben."
Yes correct, I do believe that IG’s family did live about 3/4 hours drive,from the place he disappeared and they have been there before,maybe a yearly event?
 

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