Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #2

[Davieson]

True to a point but you’ve missed the context to the other.

People who came forward at the time & gave eye witness accounts may well recognise it was him.

Or (for example) Jim the gardener who’d borrowed a rake from CB the day before, who’d only have known CB’s presence was relevant to the case in 2020.

I doubt they could recognise him with any certainty after after so many years, [particularly if they had only seen him in passing at the time .
The best they might manage is " yeah, it could be him"
This is the drawback of having his photo splashed all over the media on a regular basis.
IMO

 

[RichardKimble]

I doubt they could recognise him with any certainty after after so many years, [particularly if they had only seen him in passing at the time .

Cold case reviews only usually get solved with advancements in DNA detection, witness statements no doubt play a part but imo unlikely to be definitive.

 

[Chiatos]

I said it was gonna come thick and fast, who's seen the files? Caveat it originated in the sun, but the mail run with it ?

Christian Brueckner 'removed a birthmark after rapign Irish woman'

Brueckner had the birthmark erased to avoid identification after student Hazel Behan, who he allegedly raped, told police her attacker had a mole in that location, the Sun reports.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Awesome

 

[Anxala]

I don’t understand how this can work.

CB was arrested in 2018 in Italy. He has been in custody since.

HaB came forward after the 2020 appeal and this is when her comments about the scar/tatoo/ladder in tights became public.

So when did CB have the birthmark removed?

Am I missing something?

I don't think you are. The circus really has come to town with this trial.

Unless of course when he went to the A&E that time (Nov 2020) after being attacked in prison, he asked the doc 'Any chance you could whip this off while I'm here?' and the doc, 'Ja, for sure, no problem'. That's possible too, said no one ever.

Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner pictured in chains on way to hospital

Christian Brueckner, who is suspected of kidnapping and murdering Madeleine McCann, suffered two broken ribs before a court appearance and was taken to hospital

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Chiatos]

So when did CB have the birthmark removed?

He might have done that quite soon after the rape. Perhaps because his birthmark remained visible in the film. Maybe more will come out ...

 

[onemoremiletogo]

It is commented here as if what the media regurgitates was all that the prosecution could have.
I keep thinking and believing that there will be more...and “surprises” to come.

 

[Davieson]

He might have done that quite soon after the rape. Perhaps because his birthmark remained visible in the film. Maybe more will come out ...

Would it not have been simpler to destroy the video ?

 

[Davieson]

It is commented here as if what the media regurgitates was all that the prosecution could have.
I keep thinking and believing that there will be more...and “surprises” to come.

There no doubt are, but we'll need to wait for the media to tell us

 

[onemoremiletogo]

There no doubt are, but we'll need to wait for the media to tell us

Maybe not everything.
It will be more whatever they can get or allowed to.
Hope that what more the prosecution may have, it can be conclusive, and if it is the case, in the end, allow keeping him in more years serving justice to the victims.

 

[Anxala]

He might have done that quite soon after the rape. Perhaps because his birthmark remained visible in the film. Maybe more will come out ...

That's an interesting thought. If he's guilty in the HaB case, and he did have this birthmark/mole and it was visible in the footage he took, he might have had it removed in case it turned out to be something his victim had noticed and might use against him should he be tracked down.

But, in any case, I'm sure, if guilty, the prosecution will not be relying on this mole/not mole aspect one way or the other.

 

[Davieson]

I don't hope for any particular outcome, though I do trust the judges to apply the law correctly.
Whether that satisfies the victims remains to be seen.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I doubt they could recognise him with any certainty after after so many years, [particularly if they had only seen him in passing at the time .
The best they might manage is " yeah, it could be him"
This is the drawback of having his photo splashed all over the media on a regular basis.
IMO

In relation to the rapes, who could have come forward?

We know that HeB and MS didn’t so there is unlikely to be any other witnesses to the video recorded crimes.

The HaB rape is not the MM case. Who knows what the investigation was like but no one was prosecuted. It is unlikely it had a public profile so why would people have come forward.

I don’t think there are… “witnesses who came forward at the time.” This thinking relates only to the MM case.

The indecent exposure crimes were witnessed. There are statements and he will almost certainly be found guilty of these crimes.

 

[RichardKimble]

Going back to the mole or whatever, this from 2020.

“Hazel B said the perpetrator had a noticeable tattoo or birthmark on his right buttock”, explained Fülscher. “That excludes Christian B straight away as he doesn’t have anything like that”.

German police investigating Maddie suspect “have eye on” 16-year-old Praia da Rocha rape case

German police investigating Maddie suspect “have eye on” 16-year-old Praia da Rocha rape case.

www.portugalresident.com

 

[frank-cole]

Going back to the mole or whatever, this from 2020.

“Hazel B said the perpetrator had a noticeable tattoo or birthmark on his right buttock”, explained Fülscher. “That excludes Christian B straight away as he doesn’t have anything like that”.

German police investigating Maddie suspect “have eye on” 16-year-old Praia da Rocha rape case

German police investigating Maddie suspect “have eye on” 16-year-old Praia da Rocha rape case.

www.portugalresident.com

It will be interesting to see whether the birthmark/scar/tattoo/rip in the tights is a key feature in Hazel’s trial. IMO I doubt it will be.

 

[frank-cole]

It is commented here as if what the media regurgitates was all that the prosecution could have.
I keep thinking and believing that there will be more...and “surprises” to come.

I think you’re right. There will be more evidence that the public aren’t aware of.

As HCW said clearly. There are parallels between what CB wrote/draw & these crimes. If so that would mean CB knew things only the perpetrator would have known.

CB & cosmetic surgery has come up several times now.from several people. One wonders (very dubiously) whether there are parallels between cosmetic surgery & the victims.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I think you’re right. There will be more evidence that the public aren’t aware of.

As HCW said clearly. There are parallels between what CB wrote/draw & these crimes. If so that would mean CB knew things only the perpetrator would have known.

CB & cosmetic surgery has come up several times now.from several people. One wonders (very dubiously) whether there are parallels between cosmetic surgery & the victims.

We discussed CB’s jaw realignment surgery in earlier threads. IIRC, the procedure was not cosmetic and he returned to Germany to get it done for free.

 

[Mex]

Great evidence if true!

I kind of wonder why police had a "full scan" of him on file - do police forces really have such things?

And by the time the HB case went public he was in prison, so how did he have surgery? or did he have the surgery a long time ago?

In cases where the only evidence is photographic, comparison will be made between a suspect's physical appearance and the image.

CB was investigated, charged, convicted and served a custodial sentence in relation to the sexual assault of a minor.

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... and then in 2016 he was convicted for child sex abuse and possessing indecent images.

Madeleine McCann suspect 'had moved to Portugal to flee prison sentence' in Germany

Race to find new evidence as suspect to be considered for release from prison term for drug offences

www.independent.co.uk

Given the nature of investigations into indecent images it would be appropriate for the police to have unclothed images of a suspect in evidence.

In DM's case she was subject to being photographed for evidence in the 2005 crime for which CB was found guilty. In HB's case, she too was subject to being photographed for evidence in the 2004 case for which CB is now standing trial.


Interestingly CB as well as having the blemish removed from his thigh, is also alleged to have had remedial work carried out on his jaw.

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It was previously reported in a television investigation that Brueckner had his jaw reset and four 'rabbit' teeth straightened during a procedure at a private dental clinic in his native Germany.

The TV probe found he flew from Portugal back to Germany for the procedure - thought to have cost around £7,500 four months after little Madeleine vanished in Praia da Luz.

Christian Brueckner 'removed a birthmark after rapign Irish woman'

Brueckner had the birthmark erased to avoid identification after student Hazel Behan, who he allegedly raped, told police her attacker had a mole in that location, the Sun reports.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Mex]

You think ? Personally unless I was in close contact with anyone or an incident occurred where my attention was drawn to a person I wouldn't recognise people who had been in a resort on holiday at the same time as me .

I think many witnesses will be called for this trial each of whose testimony will be listened to and evaluated according to merit.

• 2004: HB was subjected to an appallingly long and painful ordeal during which she made close and detailed observations of her attacker despite his mask.

Her memory seems to be very clear about the incident. She didn't see the assailant from a distance it was very close and personal.

• 2007: The sexual abuse of a 10-year-old German girl on a beach in Salema, Faro

The assailant was disturbingly close to his target who was thus able to give a detailed description to the police at the time, as did other witnesses who chased him away.

• 2017: The sexual abuse of an 11-year-old Portuguese girl in a playground in Bartolomeu de Messines

CB was arrested at the scene by an off duty police officer. She is a trained observer.
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Vanessa said she encountered CB while off duty at a food festival with her daughter in Messines ...
She said: “Two kids came running over and said there was a man with his trousers down. The dads rushed straight over. He got up and started doing his flies up.
"They were really angry and grabbed him and started pushing him around. It took all my powers of persuasion and strength to hold them off him. They wanted to kill him. I told him I was a policewoman and asked his name. He told me ‘Christian’ and said he was visiting friends. He looked drunk.

Officer who guarded Madeleine McCann flat snared prime suspect

Cop Vanessa Vieira arrested Christian Brueckner when he was accused of flashing in a children's playground during 2017 - long before Maddie link

www.birminghammail.co.uk

 

[mrjitty]

We discussed CB’s jaw realignment surgery in earlier threads. IIRC, the procedure was not cosmetic and he returned to Germany to get it done for free.

German insurances used to cover a lot of work in these areas back in the day

 

[RichardKimble]

It will be interesting to see whether the birthmark/scar/tattoo/rip in the tights is a key feature in Hazel’s trial. IMO I doubt it will be.

Yet it keeps appearing, this from 2022.

Maddie McCann suspect 'will have thighs examined' in bid to escape rape charge

Christian Brueckner - who denies any involvement in Madeleine McCann's disappearance - has agreed to have his thighs examined by police in a bid to escape a rape charge

www.mirror.co.uk