I agree with you. Which is why I am now starting to wonder if Sandra actually was posed in a way that was significantly similar to Rita and Colleen. I don't know the answer to that...yet.
I'm trying to find anything suggesting they were washed ashore, and haven't found anything yet, but I'll keep looking.
Well, we know Shannon G’s jacket went missing and her relative found her earring after LE had been to Joe B’s house, in Oak Beach.
So, pretty clear that both were struck with objects and not just human hands. That's new information to me. I'd always heard "beaten" and just assumed it was with fists. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Her legs were in a black plastic bag, floating & washed up on shore on the bay side (not ocean). They would have been water-dumped and currents brought the bag to Fire Island. RH didn’t/couldn’t have driven to the location where they were found.Source:
The simple answer is yes, you can drive onto Fire Island. Whether you should, however, is a whole different question. Cars aren't allowed on the majority of the island - you can drive to one of two state parks but you aren't allowed to exit them by car. The better option is to drive to a Long Island port, hop on a ferry and travel to Fire Island on foot.
You can drive from Long Island onto Fire Island over bridges at either end to the Robert Moses State Park and Smith Point County Park. You cannot drive onto or through the majority of the island and can only access it on foot by taking a ferry.
Can You Drive To Fire Island?
All the details you need to know about whether you can drive to Fire Island - the documents you need, things to know about crossing the border and useful tips.lazytrips.com
Another source:
You can access the Fire Island Lighthouse, Wilderness Visitor Center, and William Floyd Estate year-round by car. The Fire Island Lighthouse and Wilderness Visitor Center are located on Fire Island and are open throughout the year. Get Directions.
There are no paved roads on Fire Island National Seashore. Once on Fire Island, you may explore the island on foot or transfer from one site to another by water taxi. Bicycles are permitted in some Fire Island communities but are not permitted on boardwalks at National Park Service facilities. Learn more about Getting Around Fire Island.
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Wow, so these horrific head injuries were post mortem ? WTF ?!
Right. But clear post mortem attacks to the face/head. That's definitely similar.
Both of those seem like possibilities. From memory, a SW said she went to a party at a hotel and both RH and James Burke were there. She was singled out by someone who frightened her and she went and locked herself in her room and didn't answer when someone knocked.
If the bludgeoning was that severe, it could have been to hinder identification. But then, you'd expect the hands to be removed, too, because these victims had probably been printed in the past, and an intelligent individual would know that.
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I’m of the opinion that RH, being the stalker/hunter was nearby while JB wasmeeting with RH’s target. He had no problem with the fact that Bittrolf had just been with the women. I can even see RH tracking Bittrolf. But RH had his checklist so chances that Bittrolf had the same attraction to petite women might not have been a sure bet. And we know that RH, in the cases of Melissa and Amber most likely had met with each before their last meetings. Suggesting that he groomed his later victims. But from his HK list we see “spur of the moment,” too. We also know he learned to “hit harder” which might explain the severe head trauma to Colleen and Rita.Concerned on the Bittrolff conviction, I agree with his lawyer that semen doesn't equate with murder. Someone on here noted at one point that there was evidence beyond this, but I've been trying to confirm there's more than the woodchips and the semen and finding it difficult. Just found this: "Mr. Biancavilla said outside court that he believes Mr. Bittrolff may have killed other women. He said he was prepared to present evidence provided to his office of Mr. Bittrolff brutalizing animals..."
It's not originally what I was looking for, but it sounds like good support. Also seeing that the JB victims were savagely beaten, I mean absolutely horrific. I'd say that's not like RH-- but Asian Doe was also beaten savagely, and with some of RH's victims, it's probably not really possible to know. JB's jury deliberated seven days and was deadlocked.
Manorville man sentenced to 50 to life in double murder case
"These two murders are as brutal as anything I've ever seen," the judge said at Mr. Bittrolff's sentencing in Riverside.riverheadnewsreview.timesreview.com
Is it really possible Sandra Costilla was posed because RH wanted her to be seen to implicate Bittrolff? Rita Tangredi was found Nov 2. Sandra Costilla was found Nov 20. Colleen McNamee was found in January '94. Assuming RH got wind of the murder of Rita Tangredi, it seems like that would give him very little time for efficient "copycatting"-- unless he'd already been murdering for a very long time (which I think he was). Even then, it seems unlikely to me. And would enough of details have been released for that to even be possible?
What I'd fear here more than anything is that RH knew "of" JB somehow and knew which sex workers JB frequented, RH tracked them, killed them, and figured if anything ever surfaced, they'd blame Bittrolff. While I would fear that, I find it unlikely. I would more think it likely that Bittrolff had some real, concrete association w/RH. Which also terrifies me.
AE couldn't have made a worse choice in the attorney she hired .
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My comment was just a general comment about the wisdom of hiring an attorney so early on.AE couldn't have made a worse choice in the attorney she hired .
Macedonio was part of the toxic corrupt Suffolk County web, the same politicians that stymied finding the LISK while protecting their own in Suffolk County across the board.
Macedonio also has a conflict of interest by financially benefiting by the deal he arranged for Asa and the Peacock Documentary.
"Newsday"
The Curious Case of Robert Macedonio
In December 2008, veteran criminal defense attorney Robert Macedonio appeared in a Suffolk County courtroom, this time as a defendant. “It’s embarrassing for me to be standing here,” Macedonio told…
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