Grandma Hollars speaks

[raisincharlie]

One thing I will say on behalf of GMa Hollars - and it cannot be denied - with the information she received, she did indeed contact GGMa Sykes and passed on the information. After all the insults and accusations TN leveled against the Croslin family in general one has to wonder, even just a little bit, why GMa Hollars would do that. To me the answer seems clear.

 

[cj1132]

I had to laugh at Flo last night on NG. I felt like she was trying to stay calm but if somebody had refuted what she said, she would have really let loose. As for her credibility, I believe she's trying to do the right thing. At the very least, her comments have gotten other people talking.

 

[KR2tonenow]

She just told stories that were told to her. She knows the phone calls were taped. What is she lying about?

She did make observations of Joe's behavior that I don't think anyone has denied.

I agree!!

 

[Nikki 01]

I don't think she is credible. Her story keeps evolving. It's like she is just telling what everyone wants to hear.

 

[Emma Peel]

Well each time I saw her this week, I found Granny Hollar to be completely exhausting.

After listening to her, I feel like I've been hit with a brick, abused, violated.

JHMO, she appears to be a toxic narcissist. She will never quit with the stories so long as someone give her a platform.

It logically follows that she raised Lisa to be a toxic enabler. And it follows that Lisa raised Misty, who is a toxic narcissist. And so the cycle continues...one feeds off the other...and on and on...

And THAT was the ONLY thing I learned from here this week. The etiology of the disease that is Misty Croslin.

 

[Texas Mist]

I was watching Prime News on HLN tonite & Mike G, Mike B & Mark E were all going on about how Gma Hollars has changed her stories so many times....Mike G all but looked like one of our fave emoticons :waitasec:.....my takeaway was that none of them found her to be credible, as in having anything of value to say.

IMO, she's putting forth her own opinions as facts, and repeating anything that MC says is not doing anybody any good.

As others have posted, if she really wanted to do the right thing, she could speak w/ LE & leave it at that.

Did she call GGMS & tip her off about SJR because that would crack the case & further the investigation?

JMOOOC, but I believe Gma Hollars has ulterior motives & those are not necessarily all about justice for HaLeigh.

 

[Donjeta]

After Tommy's attorney's interview on JVM I wonder if Misty and Tommy talked about the case with Flora before their arrests and before their calls being taped. It seems the atty denied that Tommy talked to her about the case on a specific day but he never said Tommy _never_ talked to her about the case, did he?

Flora might not be eager to admit that she's been sitting on information for a while.

 

[gngr~snap]

Agreed... after watching Gma Hollars evolve I must say she is not credible.
HOWEVER those in the family that are calling her a liar... IF they have no prior knowledge of what went down, They can't know for sure it's all lies can they?
Wonder if LE has set them up? By letting Gma Hollars rattle on and on to see who comes forward to deny what she says and why????

Did that make ANY sense?

 

[Texas Mist]

After Tommy's attorney's interview on JVM I wonder if Misty and Tommy talked about the case with Flora before their arrests and before their calls being taped. It seems the atty denied that Tommy talked to her about the case on a specific day but he never said Tommy _never_ talked to her about the case, did he?

Flora might not be eager to admit that she's been sitting on information for a while.

Didn't AH say one nite that he talks to her? And doesn't AH talk to Lindsy?

Maybe Gma Hollars has a well-developed gravepine.

 

[Donjeta]

Didn't AH say one nite that he talks to her? And doesn't AH talk to Lindsy?

Maybe Gma Hollars has a well-developed gravepine.

Well, she did admit to having sources she wasn't willing to disclose.

 

[gngr~snap]

Some of Gma Hollers "scenarios" remind me of the Aerosmith song
"Janie's Got a Gun" geez I gotta look for those lyrics.

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/aerosmith-janies-got-a-gun-lyrics.html

Janie got a gun
Her dog day's just begun
Now everybody is on the run
Tell me now it's untrue
What did her daddy do

I'm NOT saying RON "DID" anything with Haleigh....
Misty said she kept a gun under her pillow...
Wonder why? to keep Ron at bay? or to protect the kids?
Good grief!

 

[Donjeta]

Anyway, if Misty had a gun under her pillow, why the heck would she have been hiding under her blanket and listening to Haleigh scream? Wouldn't she have grabbed the gun and told the intruders to get out, in no uncertain terms?

 

[gngr~snap]

Anyway, if Misty had a gun under her pillow, why the heck would she have been hiding under her blanket and listening to Haleigh scream? Wouldn't she have grabbed the gun and told the intruders to get out, in no uncertain terms?

hmm cause the gun...
had been"stolen" sooo she couldn't stop them?
yes that's the ticket!
(in Misty thinking) of course

 

[4Jacy]

Anyway, if Misty had a gun under her pillow, why the heck would she have been hiding under her blanket and listening to Haleigh scream? Wouldn't she have grabbed the gun and told the intruders to get out, in no uncertain terms?

Perhaps Misty did sleep with the gun under her pillow, but not every night, perhaps she was too wasted to put it under there that night.

Anyway, I'm not believing that story about her having the sheet over her and Jr.'s head. According to Ron the beds weren't slept in at all. IF this theory is
true, then Misty was out of the house and Haleigh was silenced, perhaps with duck tape (I hate that I said that, but....) and that is why Jr. only heard the couch bouncing.

But where does that theory leave us concerning TN and GGMs being used in the coverup? No matter how stoned Tommy and Joe were, they would know they had to get rid of little Haleigh so that no evidence would be found.

 

[Concerned Papa]

hmm cause the gun...
had been"stolen" sooo she couldn't stop them?
yes that's the ticket!
(in Misty thinking) of course

Naaaw, if her gun had been "stolen" she would have simply asked Ronald and he would have told her EXACTLY where it was.

 

[gngr~snap]

4Jacy~
TN~ helped clean up before LE arrived? (after)
GGMS~ that Haleigh was alive after RC went to work? (before)

and you are right. a sheet will not drown out "screams". That story is very unlikely.

 

[gngr~snap]

Naaaw, if her gun had been "stolen" she would have simply asked Ronald and he would have told her EXACTLY where it was.

Darn! if she had only answered her cell/not turned it off... when Ron was allegedly calling her. lol

 

[lookieloo]

On one of Flora Holler's statements replays last eveing, she did say "ALL four" are involved in this, including Ronald, which means in one of her versions Ronald did more than let a drugged up Misty babysit.

 

[chesterp]

On one of Flora Holler's statements replays last eveing, she did say "ALL four" are involved in this, including Ronald, which means in one of her versions Ronald did more than let a drugged up Misty babysit.

She said RC is involved because he allowed her wasted granddaughter to watch the kids after MC offered to pay TN to watch the kids.

 

[Donjeta]

Could she have meant, all four of her grandchildren? Tommy, Misty, Joe, why was Timmy left out of Granny's theories?