Ground Searches & communication from LE: UPDATES

[SeriouslySearching]

That comment is so off topic and based on not one shred of evidence.....shall I flag your post for review?

How is it off topic? We are discussing a huge ground search to find Haleigh on the Sheffield's family property. Someone posted that a person probably framed them if they found Haleigh there. I pointed out this is not going to be the first thought of LE if they do find her there, IMO. I don't need proof or evidence to make this statement. It is simply common sense on my part.

 

[atherella]

There is another article that says:

Officials say cadaver dogs and divers were used in the search of the 30-acre farm near Glen St. Mary. They have now moved down the road to another property a few miles away to search the property belonging to Haleigh's maternal great grandfather.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/062609_Property_searched_for_missing_girl

Who is this?

Is that Virgil J.?

Because this article says the relatives land to be searched next is a 25 acre tract:

After completing the search on Griffis' land, the searchers moved over to another relative's property, a 25-acre tract.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=140562&provider=top

Virgil J., according to the Baker Country Property Appraiser's website only owns:

DOR Code (100) - SINGLE FAMILY
Acreage 2.00 LT

Which is not 25 acres. So who is this maternal great grandfather?

 

[DenVIP]

How is it off topic? We are discussing a huge ground search to find Haleigh on the Sheffield's family property. Someone posted that a person probably framed them if they found Haleigh there. I pointed out this is not going to be the first thought of LE if they do find her there, IMO. I don't need proof or evidence to make this statement. It is simply common sense on my part.

well lets see, as per the links in this thread so far nothing has been found....so your hoping for something that apparently as already been deemed not happening........and the framing statement is inflammatory.....both speculative based on nothing but your opinion.......we should stick to the facts as reported

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Guys I just want to say, I know this wants to seem promising for many of us, but I think it is important not to make assumptions or get carried away. Please remember the dumpster search done in Satsuma.

Although it might make sense to many posters that LE is out searching and digging in Baker County, if you go to the link on the first article you will read that they are searching there because of family statements that they buried their dead animals on the property and they are searching to be sure that is all that is there.

I completely agree with your statement. I am still baffled that at the Dumpster site they had 3 dogs that hit on human decomposition and all we heard was that nothing was found. I found it odd then and I still do. Yet, today we see all the man power that was used, diver, and cadaver dogs and the only thing found were animal remains thank God..at least that gives me some hope that Haleigh is alive even though I know the chances are slim I still pray for a safe return.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't recall the maternal great grandfather's name. I am just delighted they are conducting an all out search on their properties. It would be great if anyone owning the surrounding land would simply give them the green light to search further tho.

 

[Skully]

I think that is Marty (Johnny) Sheffield. I thought he and his wife were moving to TN. I remember reading that a few weeks ago.

 

[Donjeta]

Of course, KP is going to try to spin the searches. Do I believe her? No way!

I do believe someone in the family did request them...but not a chance that this was done to dispel lingering accusations with the manpower they have on this. There is a lot more to it and KP can try to make people believe her clients asked for it...but I am not falling for it.

She just said that the family asked it to dispel lingering accusations. That's not the same as claiming LE did it to dispel lingering accusations. Obviously they have to check any relevant leads and knowledge of recent burial sites on relatives property is a relevant lead.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Has anyone checked to see if LE had Search Warrants? It will be most interesting to find out and to read the reasons given for them.

 

[Donjeta]

Has anyone checked to see if LE had Search Warrants? It will be most interesting to find out and to read the reasons given for them.

There was no warrant

Piscitello declined to comment if Sheffield and her family had advance notice of the search, but he said they signed a consent form allowing officers to come onto the property without a search warrant.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/me...s_in_haleigh_case_covers_moms_family_property

 

[Donjeta]

I think that is Marty (Johnny) Sheffield. I thought he and his wife were moving to TN. I remember reading that a few weeks ago.

Johnny is maternal grandfather, not greatgrandfather.

 

[Donjeta]

There is another article that says:


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/062609_Property_searched_for_missing_girl

Who is this?

Is that Virgil J.?

Because this article says the relatives land to be searched next is a 25 acre tract:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=140562&provider=top

Virgil J., according to the Baker Country Property Appraiser's website only owns:

DOR Code (100) - SINGLE FAMILY
Acreage 2.00 LT

Which is not 25 acres. So who is this maternal great grandfather?

I don't know but the acres don't seem to add up.
http://bakercountypress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2322&Itemid=79 says:

The search area encompassed 45 acres and three ponds and work began about 10:00 am.

30 acres plus 25 acres makes 55 acres, not 45.

 

[elle1919]

I see nothing significant found yet. Is it true that the investigators are done searching for the day or is there another area being searched? TIA

 

[DenVIP]

I see nothing significant found yet. Is it true that the investigators are done searching for the day or is there another area being searched? TIA

I hope there are more places to search....and there was something significant about the search.......it shows the case is not COLD!!!! We should all be glad today

 

[Skully]

I am very happy they are going though all the tips and keeping her story updated and alive. You never know who will remember something or will see something and will solve this and bring her home.

 

[elle1919]

I hope there are more places to search....and there was something significant about the search.......it shows the case is not COLD!!!! We should all be glad today

I absolutely second that, I saw Haleigh mentioned on numerous news programs today and I hope that with the 2nd round table discussion taking place soon the case will be in the news for a bit.

What I think is that LE might have some strong suspicions and this search today had to be done to rule out any and all hope that there may be evidence of Haleigh there. I think we might see other searches in other area's that tips came in about. I liken the search to investigators traveling to the ends of the earth to search for little Caylee even though they had suspicion Caylee was already gone. When tips came in about a "live" Caylee they had to investigate it. Again this is all my opinion and I am only theorizing. No disrespect intended.

 

[Donjeta]

I think they couldn't have left the properties of such close relatives unsearched, not if they had family members on record saying that they had been digging on their property. If they happened to have some other evidence that points to someone and they decided to make an arrest without a body it it might create reasonable doubt for the defense if they could point out relatives without an alibi and ready made holes they could have easily buried the body in.

I was aggravated that this more thorough search was done now and not the day after Haleigh went missing but then again, *if* Haleigh was buried somewhere we don't know for certain when. They did say they had some reason to suspect she might be alive, a couple of months into the search. I don't know, maybe it was just because they hadn't found her dead but if someone abducted her for some other purpose than to kill immediately they might have kept her alive for some time and then got rid of her when it became too dangerous to keep her.

 

[ilovemew]

I think they couldn't have left the properties of such close relatives unsearched, not if they had family members on record saying that they had been digging on their property. If they happened to have some other evidence that points to someone and they decided to make an arrest without a body it it might create reasonable doubt for the defense if they could point out relatives without an alibi and ready made holes they could have easily buried the body in.

I was aggravated that this more thorough search was done now and not the day after Haleigh went missing but then again, *if* Haleigh was buried somewhere we don't know for certain when. They did say they had some reason to suspect she might be alive, a couple of months into the search. I don't know, maybe it was just because they hadn't found her dead but if someone abducted her for some other purpose than to kill immediately they might have kept her alive for some time and then got rid of her when it became too dangerous to keep her.

:crossfingers: Haleigh is never far from my mind. Such a sweetie pie. I pray she is still with us.

 

[yosande]

I'm glad LE is sifting through the interviews they have done, looking for anything they may have overlooked, or not taken has a clue the first time around, and are continuing to search for Haleigh. Fresh eyes on the case are a good thing too.
I hope they find her soon.
moo

 

[cajun]

There is more to this "tip" than they are saying, imo. They would not converge in force on the property and bring in divers without a substantial lead. If it were only the horses or animal carcasses they were interested in...there would be a handful of people on scene and not bulldozers, divers, and 40 officers! No way would they put this kind of manpower out there without having some very serious information on Haleigh.

You got that right, SS. I've missed ya, lady.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

You got that right, SS. I've missed ya, lady.

:blowkiss: Missed ya, too!

This gave me renewed hope in LE initially. However, if they did give them advanced warning...what good would it do to search there?! What kind of Law enforcement agency calls ahead?! WTH?! :furious:

Does this mean Baker County gave preferrential treatment to the Sheffield/Griffis clan? What else could it mean?