GUILTY on all 3 Counts!!! Post-Verdict Thread

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*Huge Sigh of Relief*

Wow. I am so thankful for all of the hard work that was done by so many people to secure this guilty conviction.

I watched the video of Raffery's interrogation yesterday, and it really drove home what a sick person he is. It's strange to watch... it seems like he's somewhat in shock and upset, and putting all of his energy into controlling his words and body to reveal as little as possible (he sits, hands clenched together, staring down at the wall, without making eye contact). The extent to which he is totally self-centered and calculating becomes clear in the exchange over the food -- which is probably the most boring part of the interview, but still revealing in weird way:

(When the first detective is about to leave, he asks Rafferty if he wants something to eat. Rafferty totally stresses out about it, because he's hungry, but is obviously totally concerned with how he will be portrayed:

MR: you don't care if I want something to eat...
Detective: Explains that he doesn't have to ask, but he doesn't mind getting him something, not a big deal.

MR: Right, so I can eat and then you can say "look, he had an appetite, this is how he must have been feeling. Oh , he drank his tea, this is now he must have been feeling"... forget that he's just starving.

Detective: You're reading too much into it, man.

MR hems and haws, then asks: "and that doesn't go anywhere, into any of your reports, if I eat or don't eat"

Detective says no. Tries to put things in perspective that the whole interview is on tape, they could care less whether he eats or not.
MR hems and haws some more, then says he would take something to eat, but insists it must be something plain.)

It makes you realize what kind of dialogue must be going on in his head during the rest of the interview. Especially at the end in that painfully awkward part when he acts like he has an alibi, no big deal: "how long will it take to clear me?" but then as he is talking takes long drawn out pauses, finally sputtering out, then finally says he needs to do it through a lawyer. In retrospect, I think he's probably trying to calculate whether he can count on BA, Charity and possibly the other girls who he was around April 8/9th to be an alibi. (Maybe all of those phone calls, stops and 'dates' were not random...)

And yet, despite the fact that it's looking like he's in serious trouble, he's so smug at the end. When the detective says he will be arrested - he interrupts: "arrested, not convicted"

It left me really anxious about the verdict... So I am happy to see that his overconfidence was his own downfall. Good Riddance, Rafferty!

very interesting observations about his reaction to the offer of food

it makes me ponder even more what the heck happened to him as a child

the only thing I was thinking was, how can someone actually be hungry? he said he ate at lunch

even if I hadn't eaten all day, I don't think food would be on my mind while being interrogated about the murder of a child but then again, he probably doesn't feel anything but the basic human needs
 
I do have one complaint about Derstine. He should have prevented MR from wearing that purple shirt into the courtroom.

Really, he should've.

That was incredibly crass and disrespectful.
 
Rewatching Mr. Derstine address the media, I noticed a few things.
He seemed extremely uncomfortable answering the questions. He sighed quite a bit, and seemed annoyed when he was asked how much money he made.
Also, I noticed that his associate, Ms. Giordano, was trying not to smile, especially at mention of the verdict.

It isn't really important, just wanted to share my random observations.

I noticed it too. Maybe differing opinion tho. I'm sure he is exhausted. I noticed the press asking questions that a Lawyer will never answer due to privelge. I'm thinking at that point he had it. Also noted Derstine said something to the effect yes Rafferty had a few things to say. It was his tone. I surmised Rafferty unleashed his wrath on him for the outcome. Just guessing. I'm on the unpopluar side as far as Derstine lol. He is correct. Somebody has to defend these people. We live in a Country with the right to a fair trial. He never came across to me as a sleaze or a Baez. I dont doubt he had many sleepless nights. MOO
ETA-just bouncing off your post
 
I do have one complaint about Derstine. He should have prevented MR from wearing that purple shirt into the courtroom.

Really, he should've.

That was incredibly crass and disrespectful.

Agree. I would like to know how that all went down.
 
I've been wondering all day how the single moms he dated have been coping now? Especially since the 'buying babies' and the Simone 'baby snuggling' chit came out.

If they weren't freaked out already, I guess some exes are now. If any of them had babes too young to talk back then, they may never, ever know what 'Mychol' did or didn't do to their kiddos.

To say that is creeping me out big time doesn't even begin to cover it. Miss Escort had *4* kids - and she was 22 back then. What are the chances that several of those kiddos weren't yet talking?

ugh. Just freakin' UGH.

So glad, so dang glad that monster is locked away for good. He's gonna get what is coming to him. Bubba don't like baby rapers.

LOL yep he will be "dancing as fast as he can". Those very thoughts have crossed my mind and I'm sure others. Especially with the Escort Girl. Seems they may have had the longest relationship giving him plenty of access to her kids. Now i can laugh and for some reason picture him putting on a song a dance for his new buds. Cripe that might be enough to get ya killed LMAO
 
I've been wondering all day how the single moms he dated have been coping now? Especially since the 'buying babies' and the Simone 'baby snuggling' chit came out.

If they weren't freaked out already, I guess some exes are now. If any of them had babes too young to talk back then, they may never, ever know what 'Mychol' did or didn't do to their kiddos.

To say that is creeping me out big time doesn't even begin to cover it. Miss Escort had *4* kids - and she was 22 back then. What are the chances that several of those kiddos weren't yet talking?

ugh. Just freakin' UGH.

So glad, so dang glad that monster is locked away for good. He's gonna get what is coming to him. Bubba don't like baby rapers.
I will say this. After MR's arrest all of US girls were notified that he tested positive for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. I was thankful that I was pregnant and had already been tested so I knew I was ok but I do however feel sorry for some of the girls that slept with him within that last week or two. I feel sorry for all of the girls they had to contact I had heard it was well over 100. Public health would have been busy. Now today hearing that he was searching out gential herpes in 2006 makes me sick. I can't believe that we could all possibly have them and not know. Genital Herpes is something that can't be tested unless you have an outbreak and unfortunately many people have them and don't know it because they lie dormant in your system for a very long time. Now for us girls we could potentially have them and could potentially pass them on to our future mate or husband. How sick is this. How does someone deal with this.
 
Sorry for some reason my post got cut off. I was also saying that what if some of these girls like myself had a little daughter. Mine was around the age of 2.5. She wouldn't be able to tell me what happened if anything. There are times in the middle of the night she would wake up and come into bed with us. This all just makes me so sick and disgusted. I feel for all these girls that have so many unanswered questions now. all the What Ifs.
 
I noticed it too. Maybe differing opinion tho. I'm sure he is exhausted. I noticed the press asking questions that a Lawyer will never answer due to privelge. I'm thinking at that point he had it. Also noted Derstine said something to the effect yes Rafferty had a few things to say. It was his tone. I surmised Rafferty unleashed his wrath on him for the outcome. Just guessing. I'm on the unpopluar side as far as Derstine lol. He is correct. Somebody has to defend these people. We live in a Country with the right to a fair trial. He never came across to me as a sleaze or a Baez. I dont doubt he had many sleepless nights. MOO
ETA-just bouncing off your post

Or maybe Rafferty whimpered in a corner about the dreadful stuff that may happen to him in prison.
 
<snip> Now today hearing that he was searching out gential herpes in 2006 makes me sick. I can't believe that we could all possibly have them and not know. Genital Herpes is something that can't be tested unless you have an outbreak <snip>
Just remembering that his pill supplier in Guelph noticed that when he visited her after the murder he was stressed out and had some cold sores. She said he would get them when he was stressed.
 
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo. I didn't hear the verdict last night because I decided to turn the computer and my cell off and spend some time with my daughter because I have been so wrapped up in this case. I came up stairs this morning and turned my phone on and the text messages started flowing in and the relief I felt is indescribable. I messaged Tara right away and she was so happy and said she finally after a long time slept last night. I feel so good right now. I would like to take all the police officers, the crown attorney, the judge and the most of all the jury for all their hard work on this very difficult case. Justice has finally been servered. Now only if MR wouldn't be protected in jail and get what he deserves it would be that much better.

Does anyone have the link for TLM police interegation?

Here ya go
http://www.citytv.com/toronto/cityn...ideo-terri-lynne-mcclintic-s-police-interview
 
I will say this. After MR's arrest all of US girls were notified that he tested positive for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. I was thankful that I was pregnant and had already been tested so I knew I was ok but I do however feel sorry for some of the girls that slept with him within that last week or two. I feel sorry for all of the girls they had to contact I had heard it was well over 100. Public health would have been busy. Now today hearing that he was searching out gential herpes in 2006 makes me sick. I can't believe that we could all possibly have them and not know. Genital Herpes is something that can't be tested unless you have an outbreak and unfortunately many people have them and don't know it because they lie dormant in your system for a very long time. Now for us girls we could potentially have them and could potentially pass them on to our future mate or husband. How sick is this. How does someone deal with this.

I am very, very sorry you have/had to go through that. I can't even begin to imagine the thoughts and fears you've had to work through the past few years.

How are you holding up? Do you have a good support system around you while you try to sort all of this out in your head?

Chit. 100 or more girls out there with lawd knows what to deal with physically, on top of the emotions. Thanks for sharing - I'm certain I'm not alone in hoping that you've escaped that bullet.
 
Sorry for some reason my post got cut off. I was also saying that what if some of these girls like myself had a little daughter. Mine was around the age of 2.5. She wouldn't be able to tell me what happened if anything. There are times in the middle of the night she would wake up and come into bed with us. This all just makes me so sick and disgusted. I feel for all these girls that have so many unanswered questions now. all the What Ifs.

I am so, so sorry you were one of his victims. I wish there was something I could do. What an evil, evil person he is. :(

*hugs*
 
Sorry for some reason my post got cut off. I was also saying that what if some of these girls like myself had a little daughter. Mine was around the age of 2.5. She wouldn't be able to tell me what happened if anything. There are times in the middle of the night she would wake up and come into bed with us. This all just makes me so sick and disgusted. I feel for all these girls that have so many unanswered questions now. all the What Ifs.

That's exactly the type of scenario that's had me worrying all day.

Again, I don't have the words to articulate well enough how sorry I am that you have to even think about things like this. Just hoping you get the support that you need.
 
I dont think he will at all. He wont even look at them and if he does its more still for intimidation. I hope to God Rodney is allowed to not hold back what he feels.

I'm wondering since its an impact statement and revisited at parole hearings if he will hold back somewhat??
 
All I can say is phew!!! Am I the only one feeling slightly dazed today? I was sooo worried that the jury might not think he was guilty, I'm still outraged that the judge didn't allow the laptop and cellphone evidence. I think he is really going to take some heat for that. I've been picturing Rafferty in that teeny weenie stinky cell down at KP, with Bernardo staring at him. He's about to enter hell and I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. Thank god he's off the streets, it's terrifying to think what else he would have done if he hadn't been caught.

Have we heard any news about the baby yet? Hope Allanea is doing okay!!!
 
I don't think Derstine was a villain. He was an actor playing a role. At the same time, I don't think he was a hero. If he's passed sleepless nights, he probably did it in high thread-count sheets. He's probably earned, what $200K-$300K for this? Ten years' salary for a lot of Canadians. His firm will probably get a lot of new business courtesy of this case.

I know someone has to do it. I understand that if we want the verdict to stick, his defence has to have been competent, and we should be glad it was. The criminal defence business leaves me wanting to take a shower all the same. :( Yuck!

If he'd just managed to get TLM's original confession excluded as evidence, I wonder if MTR wouldn't be a free man tonight.
 
I will say this. After MR's arrest all of US girls were notified that he tested positive for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. I was thankful that I was pregnant and had already been tested so I knew I was ok but I do however feel sorry for some of the girls that slept with him within that last week or two. I feel sorry for all of the girls they had to contact I had heard it was well over 100. Public health would have been busy. Now today hearing that he was searching out gential herpes in 2006 makes me sick. I can't believe that we could all possibly have them and not know. Genital Herpes is something that can't be tested unless you have an outbreak and unfortunately many people have them and don't know it because they lie dormant in your system for a very long time. Now for us girls we could potentially have them and could potentially pass them on to our future mate or husband. How sick is this. How does someone deal with this.

I really feel for you and all the other women he dated!!! I can't imagine what it's like for you, all the things you must be wondering. Big hugs!!xx
 
I will say this. After MR's arrest all of US girls were notified that he tested positive for Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. I was thankful that I was pregnant and had already been tested so I knew I was ok but I do however feel sorry for some of the girls that slept with him within that last week or two. I feel sorry for all of the girls they had to contact I had heard it was well over 100. Public health would have been busy. Now today hearing that he was searching out gential herpes in 2006 makes me sick. I can't believe that we could all possibly have them and not know. Genital Herpes is something that can't be tested unless you have an outbreak and unfortunately many people have them and don't know it because they lie dormant in your system for a very long time. Now for us girls we could potentially have them and could potentially pass them on to our future mate or husband. How sick is this. How does someone deal with this.

Sorry for some reason my post got cut off. I was also saying that what if some of these girls like myself had a little daughter. Mine was around the age of 2.5. She wouldn't be able to tell me what happened if anything. There are times in the middle of the night she would wake up and come into bed with us. This all just makes me so sick and disgusted. I feel for all these girls that have so many unanswered questions now. all the What Ifs.

Oh my god... so sorry you had to go through this. I can't even put into words how horrible this guy is... how can somebody enjoy hurting people that much? It is sick. He ruins lives and enjoys it.

How absolutely terrible :(
 
What I am grateful for:

- The incredible effort put in by LE (Woodstock, OPP and others). One image that I will never get out of my mind was the sight of LE saluting the hearse as it drove Tori out of that field on the first steps of her journey "home".

- The excellent job done by the Crown, in spite of having one hand tied behind their back with the exclusion of the key computer/BlackBerry evidence.

- The good job done by the defence to ensure that MF had a fair trial. (Someone had to do it, and they got key evidence excluded.) This upholds the underpinnings of a civil society and reduces the possibility of a mistrial.

- The dedication of the jurors, representing us, the people....taking time away from their families and other responsibilities and having to see horrible things that people shouldn't have to see. May they hold their heads up high and tuck those images away into a dark corner of their minds, never to rear up again.

- The quality of reporting by the media, showing sensitivity and restraint. A particular nod to the London Free Press team, whose coverage was extensive, timely and respectful, is in order.

- The strength of Tori's family and the example they set. How they showed such emotional restraint through this I will never know. Tara, who has held her own through the most horrendous circumstances that any mother could face. (May she find at least some degree of peace on Mother's Day.) And Rodney, with his incredible strength. I won't even try to describe it. Muckrucker's comment said it best..I'll have to go and find it.

- Rafferty was found guilty of all three charges!

- Knowing that MR and TLM won't be able to hurt other children again.

- POF to be replaced by POB (Plenty of Bubbas).

- And, finally, the wonderful people from WS, Woodstock, all of southwestern Ontario, all of Ontario, all of Canada, the U.S., and further afield, who cared about a little girl, who touched us all.

More group hugs?? Is that still allowed after our big 'party' last night?
 
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